The "Heavy Metal Tier list" (A sort-of statement of fact in progress)

[JRA]

Originally Posted by zgodt

Yes. I am hoping that JRA is channeling the alleged voice of the TMP there, rather than his own.

[zgodt]

As one of those old-school 80s metalheads, I think the list shows Ozzy (solo) ranked too low. At least his first Randy Rhoads era work and possibly the Jake E. Lee era too -- in those days Ozzy was still a contender for top of the metal game, along with Priest, Maiden, and Metallica. He's tarnished his reputation among the TMP with his wife's antics, his reality show, etc., and his work with Zakk Wylde represents a steep drop in quality from his earlier output. But nevertheless, if Tier I is to represent the metal divinity based on historical significance, then Ozzy belongs.

I wonder what it says about the metal community that three of the five bands you have listed in Tier VIII as "Gay-ass Ozzfest metalcore bands" ( ) are among the most interesting/innovative/unclassifiable bands to emerge in metal over the last 10 years. If metal is about orthodoxy, there's no greater sin than to be unorthodox.

Oh, and Motley Crue so totally belongs in hair metal. Are you telling me that metalheads by and large respect these douches?

[zgodt]

Originally Posted by JRA

Don't make me break those teeth, choadhead.

[SomewhereInTime72]

Originally Posted by zgodt

If metal is about orthodoxy, there's no greater sin than to be unorthodox.

Members of the metal subculture generally always want more and more of the same.

[DethMaiden]

I think this whole thing basically proves that the TMP are really lame if they exist.

[JRA]

Originally Posted by zgodt

As one of those old-school 80s metalheads, I think the list shows Ozzy (solo) ranked too low. At least his first Randy Rhoads era work and possibly the Jake E. Lee era too -- in those days Ozzy was still a contender for top of the metal game, along with Priest, Maiden, and Metallica. He's tarnished his reputation among the TMP with his wife's antics, his reality show, etc., and his work with Zakk Wylde represents a steep drop in quality from his earlier output. But nevertheless, if Tier I is to represent the metal divinity based on historical significance, then Ozzy belongs.

Oh, and Motley Crue so totally belongs in hair metal. Are you telling me that metalheads by and large respect these douches?

a) That's actually a very interesting point, considering that Metallica's sins with the TMP are worse than Ozzy's, yet their still in top tier. I guess the point is if someone were to flat out say "I hate any and all Metallica" as opposed to "bla bla bla Ozzy," I think you'd at least be looked at cross-eyed for the former.

b) More-so than you think. I've actually gotten yelled at for someone for saying they suck a few years back, but I still wouldn't consider them that essential (plus Nikki Sixx's ego doesn't deserve it ).

[es156]

Originally Posted by DethMaiden

I think this whole thing basically proves that the TMP are really lame if they exist.

Don't say that too loud.....

[es156]

Originally Posted by zgodt

As one of those old-school 80s metalheads, I think the list shows Ozzy (solo) ranked too low. At least his first Randy Rhoads era work and possibly the Jake E. Lee era too -- in those days Ozzy was still a contender for top of the metal game, along with Priest, Maiden, and Metallica. He's tarnished his reputation among the TMP with his wife's antics, his reality show, etc., and his work with Zakk Wylde represents a steep drop in quality from his earlier output. But nevertheless, if Tier I is to represent the metal divinity based on historical significance, then Ozzy belongs.

Oh, and Motley Crue so totally belongs in hair metal.

I would agree with both of these statements. Ozzy pretty much ruled the 80's and was probably more popular during those years than Sabbath, Priest or Maiden. He was definitely more popular than Metallica in the 80's. They really didn't take over the scene until the Black Album hit in 1991.

[es156]

I would also say that Motorhead should probably be in tier III. I don't think they deserve the same rank as the other bands in tier I.

[ravenheart]

Originally Posted by JRA

My favorite line by him ever is "British Steel is remembered for the wrong reasons. 'Breaking The Law' and 'Living After Midnight' are not the be-all end-all of Judas Priest."

While I think most of the stuff I've read by him is retarted, this is true. British Steel should be remembered for 'The Rage'.