The "Heavy Metal Tier list" (A sort-of statement of fact in progress)

[JRA]

Originally Posted by SomewhereInTime72

From what I've heard from talking to people, most people would consider Iced Earth to be gay power metal or something along those lines, even though I pretty much disagree.

Also, it occurs to me that Helloween should be divided into like two bands, Helloween (early) and Helloween (Deris), because while they'll approve of Helloween, the "TMP" will come out and start calling you an idiot/poser/etc if you say you like the Deris albums.

edit: Also I forgot to mention this yesterday, but I love tier VI - it's so fucking true. There should be more bands there.

Actually, Helloween (Deris) would stay in the same tier as old Helloween, because latter Helloween is still stuff the TMP don't care about.


Any other suggestions for Tier VI? Because those were the only two bands I could think of. Now that I think about it, I wonder if Helloween should go in Tier VI, considering that's what most power metal sounds like?

[JRA]

Update: I whiddled down tier V and added a new tier all together!

[TonyD]

Originally Posted by ravenheart

You've almost entirely forgotten a few bands without whom metal would be very different:
Stuck Mojo

LAWL


And "Stupid Gay Eyeliner Shit" doesn't really help your case. Anyone that knows what's been going on the past 10 years can label that goth.

[SomewhereInTime72]

Originally Posted by TonyD

goth.

[ravenheart]

Originally Posted by JRA

Any other suggestions for Tier VI? Because those were the only two bands I could think of.

White Zombie?

[JuuKun]

While, on the whole I got a few laughs, I feel the need to comment on a few things:

-Considering that Slaughter of the Soul is considered one of the first Melodeath albums, I think At the Gates probably belongs in Va, not Vb. But that's debatable. I don't know who else got to see ATG touring last summer, but in Worcester EVERYONE around me was talking about how long they'd waited for this show, and the crowd absolutely exploded when the band came on.

-I also disagree with Possessed being in Vb instead of Va, but that's personal taste, so disregard this.

-HOW are Mastodon, Opeth, CoB, and Arch Enemy "Gay ass Ozzfest metalcore bands". While CoB have put out two less than stellar albums in a row now, none of them play metalcore. Saying Opeth is metalcore is down right ridiculous, and I think your so-called True Metal Police would beat YOU for saying that . I understand their placement together on the list, though I think their tier should be COMPLETELY renamed, and SOAD removed from it.

-Nevermore are not power metal. More like Prog/Thrash.

-Also, probably the BIGGEST wtf on this list: Amon Amarth as a "fairy power metal band"? Are you on crack?

Oh, and Skid Row should definitely be in II or IV.

[JRA]

Originally Posted by ravenheart

White Zombie?

Enh, except is anybody really influenced by Rob Zombie nowadays? If anything he belongs in tiers 10, 11 or 12?

Originally Posted by JuuKun

While, on the whole I got a few laughs, I feel the need to comment on a few things:

-Considering that Slaughter of the Soul is considered one of the first Melodeath albums, I think At the Gates probably belongs in Va, not Vb. But that's debatable. I don't know who else got to see ATG touring last summer, but in Worcester EVERYONE around me was talking about how long they'd waited for this show, and the crowd absolutely exploded when the band came on.

-I also disagree with Possessed being in Vb instead of Va, but that's personal taste, so disregard this.

-HOW are Mastodon, Opeth, CoB, and Arch Enemy "Gay ass Ozzfest metalcore bands". While CoB have put out two less than stellar albums in a row now, none of them play metalcore. Saying Opeth is metalcore is down right ridiculous, and I think your so-called True Metal Police would beat YOU for saying that . I understand their placement together on the list, though I think their tier should be COMPLETELY renamed, and SOAD removed from it.

The thing is, the term "metalcore" doesn't necessarily mean "combination of metal and hardcore" as much as it means "shitty band that played shitty metal." At least that's how I feel the "True Metal Police" would use it. While Mastodon and Arch Enemy aren't, in the pure sense of the word "metalcore" they did in fact play on Ozzfest. The thing about Ozzfest, is while they started out as a purebred metal festival, they also pretty much kickstarted the entire career of nu-metal: Limp Bizkit, Korn, Linkin Park, Mudvayne, Slipknot, and a hoist of others. Basically, because of this, if you went on Ozzfest, you were blacklisted as "nu-metal," "metal-core," "mallcore" or whatever term the TMP were using to describe you as "terrible." Any band that went on here now had to work twice as hard to prove themselves to the elitist status quo.

As for Opeth, they were Ultraboris's #0 band. That alone also "blacklists" you. Then there's Bodom, who while they have never been on Ozzfest, and are actually loved by Ultraboris (or at least Hatebreeder was), the fact is, the production and keyboards on some of their albums were a little too slick and techno-ish at points, therefore, music for Hot Topic and "mallcore." As much as I'd love to move Bodom up a tier or two, the fact is, they have a pretty polarizing reception in the metal community.

In regards to At The Gates and In Flames, both were slammed by Ultraboris, but I've heard plenty of praise and influential acclaims from people, (plus, I myself to like some ATG songs), so I put them in the middle "extreme tier."

[SomewhereInTime72]

Originally Posted by JuuKun

-Also, probably the BIGGEST wtf on this list: Amon Amarth as a "fairy power metal band"? Are you on crack?
.

Well there can't really be another tier just for "fairy viking bullshit" can there?

[ravenheart]

Originally Posted by JRA

Ultraboris'

Is that the dude who writes the painfully shit reviews?

[ADD]

The TMP approves of the first post