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Overrated by who? I never understand this term overrated. If you're referring to the media understand that's sports writers are total idiots, outdoing everyone in stupidity except maybe for weathermen.
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Old 02-12-2014, 12:00 PM
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If we're discounting media and sports writers, then no one in sports is overrated or underrated. I also try not to count fan opinions as much since there's too much bias. Yanks fans are obviously gonna love him, Red Sox and Mets fans are obviously going to hate him (with a few exceptions here and there), other AL East fans i'm sure will most likely dislike him.
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Old 02-12-2014, 12:09 PM
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The concept of overrated and underrated is a very strange one, it certainly holds zero meaning with me. It's such a vague statement that can be torn a thousand different ways. Is A-Rod overrated? Underrated? Completely even? Who determines this and why is what they say the final word? Dumb term.
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Old 02-12-2014, 12:21 PM
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verb (used with object), o·ver·rat·ed, o·ver·rat·ing.
to rate or appraise too highly; overestimate


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The term itself, to me, isn't vague. It's pretty clear cut. Unfortunately it depends on the person using it as they will obviously value certain criteria over others. In terms of Jeter's base stats: Career batting average, total hits, I can understand why someone would say he isn't overrated. But given the lack of his power numbers, his defense which isn't that great and was most of the time just barely better than average, the fact that he never won an MVP, the fact that his overall numbers may have been a product of being on a stacked team for so many years (something which isn't just unique to him, and can be said about a lot of my favourite Red Sox players, for sure), and his apparent perceived clutch hitting ability, there's where the overrated comes in.

As I said earlier, unfortunately it can be influenced by where you stand as a fan. Since i'm a Red Sox fan it may be easy to throw my opinion away and chalk it up to bias, but I have no doubt in my mind that if I was even just neutral towards the Yankees, I'd still feel he was an overrated player.

As far as Arod, unfortunately his steroid use (both the stuff he admitted to when he was with Texas and what has been alleged with the Biogenesis stuff) has clouded it, but if we take his numbers just at face value, then my opinion is no he isn't overrated. He would be properly rated. Don't let that throw you off when it comes to my opinion of him though. I still hate him and he's a scumbag, and I like Jeter FAARRR more than I like Arod. But in terms of sheer baseball numbers, steroids aside, Arod > Jeter.
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Well that went absolutely fucking no where.

So how about Ian Kinsler basically stating he hates the Rangers now and hopes they win 0 games? That's...interesting.
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Well that went absolutely fucking no where.

So how about Ian Kinsler basically stating he hates the Rangers now and hopes they win 0 games? That's...interesting.
Like when Hamilton went to the Angels!

Also I hope both the Tigers and Rangers go 0-162.
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Old 03-05-2014, 10:23 AM
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I dislike the Tigers only because my cousin and uncle are both huge Tigers fans. Although they were conveniently quiet after last year's ALCS to my Red Sox.

And did Hamilton make any inflamatorry comments about the Rangers themselves the way Kinsler did? The only thing I remember was when he said that the State of Texas isn't a baseball town.
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I dislike the Tigers only because my cousin and uncle are both huge Tigers fans. Although they were conveniently quiet after last year's ALCS to my Red Sox.

And did Hamilton make any inflamatorry comments about the Rangers themselves the way Kinsler did? The only thing I remember was when he said that the State of Texas isn't a baseball town.
Ya that was pretty much it and like that he didnt want to play for that team. Then Hamilton went and had an awful season. Hate the dude but sadly he plays for my favorite team so he needs to play well
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Ya that was pretty much it and like that he didnt want to play for that team. Then Hamilton went and had an awful season. Hate the dude but sadly he plays for my favorite team so he needs to play well
Seeing that your an Angels fan, I want to thank your team for taking the Pujols contract out of the Cardinals hands. I feel they are a lot better off!!!
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Old 03-05-2014, 11:26 AM
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If Pujols and Hamilton play to even 3/4 of what was expected of them, with Mike Trout in the lineup, that team will be scary.
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