Iced Earth - Framing Armageddon

[Axis_Of_Metal]

Jesus Christ guys get a grip it's just an album

[theclansman1114]

Originally Posted by es156

I don't know what is with you guys. Keith Bergman at Blabbermouth gave it a 9/10.

Blabbermouth Review

Oh god. 9 outta 10? No, thats not right.

This album is DEFINITELY not as bad as everyone here is making it out to be.

But, that said, it is definitely not worth a 9 outta 10. I'd give it a 6.5, it's a solid album, but it's not going to blow you away.

[Maiden33]

Originally Posted by theclansman1114

Oh god. 9 outta 10? No, thats not right.

This album is DEFINITELY not as bad as everyone here is making it out to be.

But, that said, it is definitely not worth a 9 outta 10. I'd give it a 6.5, it's a solid album, but it's not going to blow you away.

I'd give it a 7.5 or a 7. It's not top 10 material by a long shot but if I made a top 20 it might make it.

[Human_Metal]

I have now listen to the album maybe 7-8 times and i do really like it. Can't really understand that so many says it's complete garbage. IMO there's a lot of strongs songs and Tim Owens does for sure his best vocal performence ever.
But ofcourse it's not near the greatness of Night of the Stormrider.

If i had to rate it i would give it a 7,5 or maybe 8.

[Maiden33]

Originally Posted by Human_Metal

I have now listen to the album maybe 7-8 times and i do really like it. Can't really understand that so many says it's complete garbage. IMO there's a lot of strongs songs and Tim Owens does for sure his best vocal performence ever.
But ofcourse it's not near the greatness of Night of the Stormrider.

If i had to rate it i would give it a 7,5 or maybe 8.

Yeah, not only is it not that bad, the thing that really bugs me is that it's NOT any worse than the average Iced Earth album. I understand if people never liked them in the first place but to like or love earlier work and hate this is just stupid as the margin of difference is not very big.

[Div]

Maybe because this sounds NOTHING like thier earlier stuff?

[ChildrenofSodom]

Originally Posted by Div

Maybe because this sounds NOTHING like thier earlier stuff?

So quit comparing it to old stuff. Take a black marker, cross Iced Earth off the cover, and write a different name. I felt this way on Glorious Burden, but not necessarily this album, that if you treat this album as a new band (because it basically is when a band gets a completely contrasting singer), and not Iced Earth, you may find that the material isnt as bad as you play it to be.

[ChildrenofSodom]

Originally Posted by theclansman1114

I'm sorry, but I couldn't disagree more with you. Ripper is pathetic.

Compared to Barlow, he sucks as an Iced Earth singer.....Compared to Rob Halford, he sucks as a Judas Priest singer. Even in Beyond Fear, he sucks. But some of his work on Glorious Burden (especially the Gettysburg trilogy) and on this new album (The Clouding comes to mind) is pretty damn good.

[DethMaiden]

Originally Posted by ChildrenofSodom

So quit comparing it to old stuff. Take a black marker, cross Iced Earth off the cover, and write a different name. I felt this way on Glorious Burden, but not necessarily this album, that if you treat this album as a new band (because it basically is when a band gets a completely contrasting singer), and not Iced Earth, you may find that the material isnt as bad as you play it to be.

Au contrere. It would suck no matter who it was.

[ChildrenofSodom]

Originally Posted by DethMaiden

Au contrere. It would suck no matter who it was.

I know this record sucks. I am talking mainly about GB.