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Old 04-22-2007, 06:46 PM
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This reminds me of those fabled abstinence rings. Has anyone ever actually seen one of those?
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Old 04-22-2007, 06:52 PM
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This reminds me of those fabled abstinence rings. Has anyone ever actually seen one of those?
Do they go on your cock?
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Old 04-22-2007, 06:56 PM
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Do they go on your cock?
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Old 04-22-2007, 07:33 PM
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As I'm sure you all could guess, I've got nothing against alcohol or drug use. Yes, drug abuse is a big problem we face and there is a myriad of opinions on how this problem should be addressed, but me getting drunk or stoned with friends isn't hurting anyone or creating any nationwide crises. As for the whole "gateway drug" thing, I think it's mostly bullshit. If someone starts on marijuana and ends up a coke or heroin addict, there are most likely other factors at work; they weren't somehow suddenly corrupted by smoking bud.

As for my opinion on the whole straight-edge thing, well, if you wanna do that for yourself, that's fine, but don't fucking tell me what I should or shouldn't be doing/using.

Also, as it's very relevant, I'm gonna cite one of the few sensible things I've ever come across on anus.com:

"No society has an original taboo on drugs, except those substances which have proven to be so immediately addictive that they cause visible social degeneration (opiates). Our modern society, realizing that drugs offend our absolutist worldview by providing alternate ways to interpret our perceptual data, has lumped them together and banned them all.

Hallucinogens are the most offensive because they show us that the world exists as data, and our perception of it can be altered, revealing how un-absolute our vision of reality is. This upsets both the control mechanisms of industrial society, and the religious sensibilities of supernaturalists like Christians and Jews. Hinduism, Buddhism and Islam have not experienced these problems.

In the West, fear of drugs and the enforcement of their banning has produced the most repressive regime ever, in which a single phone call suggesting drugs exist at a location produces an immediate raid by machine-gun toting special intrusion units."
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Old 04-22-2007, 07:35 PM
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This is the most pointless shit I've ever heard. If you don't want to be involved in drugs or alchohol, cool. That's your choice. But go around declaring it a lifestyle? Puh-lease.
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Old 04-22-2007, 07:53 PM
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Well, I'm not against drug or alcohol use, nor advocating straight edge. I just think it's kind of cool that I can be proud to say that I'm not into that shit and not feel like an out-of-the-loop loser.
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Old 04-22-2007, 08:09 PM
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From what I know from talking to straight edge people, the ones who are serious about it make a huge committment to the lifestyle. If I were you, I wouldn't just go around "x-ing up" at shows, because you're probably gonna get called out as a poseur.

I don't have any problem with it, but a lot of straight-edgers are pretty sanctimonious and annoying about it. Not all, but a lot.
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Old 04-22-2007, 08:25 PM
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Old 04-22-2007, 08:36 PM
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It all comes down to your personal responsibility when it comes to drugs. I knew a kid who was a genius, he taught himself computer programming and was making about 10000 bucks a month, then he started doing pot, got hooked, pretty much smoked it 24-7, put up posters of the marijuana leaves all over his room, and by the time he realized what happened his income was down to 1200 a month. It was a shame to see him destroy himself like that. I remember after the first time he tried it he told me how he felt dissapointed in himself for doing it, but unfortunatley his new friends were a bunch of addicts themselves so :/

The problem wasn't the drug itself, it was his lack of self control (and his dumbass "friends" didnt help much either). I don't really care if anyone uses drugs, it's not really any of my business to tell you what you shouldnt do. But I do think the whole sub-culture that sometimes goes with it is pretty lame.
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Old 04-22-2007, 08:41 PM
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Being the forum's resident "straight edge", lemme throw in my 2 cents.

I myself have never drank, never smoked, never done any drugs in my life, and I honestly have no desire to ever take part in said events. I feel no need to, I see no fun in doing it, I can have a perfectly good time being completely sober. And yes, I often shake my head at friends that do it and say "Bad kids." and whatnot, BUT I do not take part in the whole "sXe" thing. That's just stupid. Likfe Div said, the only time I've ever had X's on my hands at a concert was because they were at bars and it was to show I wasn't 21. People and bands that preach about how you shouldn't do it are just a bit .... out there.

But in the same respect, I can't stand people who go around glorifying alcohol and drug use. I tried avoiding that"Happy 420" thread because I knew it would just be "Duuuuude, hell yeaaah, weeeed lololol" which jus pisses me off. I can't stand people who sit there and turn these "activities" into lifestlyes and promote it like that. If you do it, fine, go ahead, but I really don't need to hear about how high you got and what fucked up things you did.



That being said, I'm currently listening to Alice Cooper.
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