Further thoughts on the Dio/"rainbow" problem.

[zgodt]

Originally Posted by EvilCheeseWedge

You're telling me that somebody who has spent their entire life traveling the world, meeting people, and jamming with great musicians has nothing better to write about than spiders, dragons, masters of the moon, and making the devil the cry?

As with Rainbows, I don't think the subject matter per se is the problem. It's still possible to write good lyrics about dragons, spiders, the moon, and the devil -- if you try to do something new/unexpected with them, and bring your personal experience to bear on them as useful metaphors.

But Dio doesn't.

[DreamEvil001]

Originally Posted by EvilCheeseWedge

Okay. I like Dio (I think that's pretty well established), but I think his lyrics are pretty iffy (I think that's also well established.)

The way I see it, Dio just isn't creative. Sorry, but he's beaten to death about every cliché in existence, he can't write metaphors, and he definitely takes himself far too seriously. Take Magica, for instace. It may be the worst story ever written. It's generic, cliché, and overly dramatic. So he puts it to music. Good grief.

Furthermore, it's well known that Dio is over 60. You're telling me that somebody who has spent their entire life traveling the world, meeting people, and jamming with great musicians has nothing better to write about than spiders, dragons, masters of the moon, and making the devil the cry?

Get real.

Dio's a lazy songwriter, a poor lyricist, and has admitted in interviews he doesn't even care to create new music anymore, and only does so he can tour. So while that makes it a bit easier to write off his recent albums, it still offers no excuse for the abomination that is "Sacred Heart" and the unholy curse upon this world that is the Dio's-face-in-a-crystal-ball introduction to the song live ("Come with me children as we cross the rainbow bridge.")

Agreed. His lyrics have almost always been atrocious. He has some good ones and they're usually when he departs the fantasy aspect: Invisible (after the intro), Between Two Hearts, TV crimes, etc.

[EvilCheeseWedge]

Originally Posted by zgodt

As with Rainbows, I don't think the subject matter per se is the problem. It's still possible to write good lyrics about dragons, spiders, the moon, and the devil -- if you try to do something new/unexpected with them, and bring your personal experience to bear on them as useful metaphors.

But Dio doesn't.

Yeah, that's pretty much what I was trying to get at.

[ChildrenofSodom]

Originally Posted by zgodt

As with Rainbows, I don't think the subject matter per se is the problem. It's still possible to write good lyrics about dragons, spiders, the moon, and the devil -- if you try to do something new/unexpected with them, and bring your personal experience to bear on them as useful metaphors.

But Dio doesn't.

Does he owe you anything? NO! Does he harm you in anyway? NO! Does his writing/music affect your life in even the most remote way? NO!

So quit bitching about one of the best vocalists of all time, yah noob.

[EvilCheeseWedge]

Originally Posted by DreamEvil001

Agreed. His lyrics have almost always been atrocious. He has some good ones and they're usually when he departs the fantasy aspect: Invisible (after the intro), Between Two Hearts, TV crimes, etc.

[EvilCheeseWedge]

Originally Posted by ChildrenofSodom

Does he owe you anything? NO! Does he harm you in anyway? NO! Does his writing/music affect your life in even the most remote way? NO!

So quit bitching about one of the best vocalists of all time, yah noob.

Is this a discussion board? YES!

Deal with it.

[Div]

Anyone remember that video where Dio was the magical frog?

[EvilCheeseWedge]

Originally Posted by Div

Anyone remember that video where Dio was the magical frog?

Yeah...

[ChildrenofSodom]

Originally Posted by EvilCheeseWedge

Is this a discussion board? YES!

Deal with it.

It isnt even a real discussion...Its just bitching about something that doesnt affect you at all...Its like bitching because the flag was at half-mast for 30 days after Ford died...Dio is going to write corny lyrics until he dies...that is part of his schtick.....He is an amazing singer, and that is all that matters. Nothing anyone says will change his mind, and he will continue to make albums, and myself and other loyal fans will continue to buy them.

[ChildrenofSodom]

Originally Posted by Div

Anyone remember that video where Dio was the magical frog?

The Butterfly Ball
http://youtube.com/watch?v=R-pe81BYBXU