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Old 02-19-2007, 05:32 PM
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To be fair, a lot of the less-qualified black students are less-qualified because they had to grow up in poor neighborhoods and areas with bad educational resources... which in turn is a product of their family's history of oppression by this country.
I agree most with Bill Cosby: slavery and the white man didnt force births-out-of-wedlock, high crime rates, high drug rates, high amounts of fatherless familes, in-decypherable-slang of the English language, and sky high high-school dropout rates.

It all here and now. The oppressed will overcome, one way or another. Oppurtunities should be given, not free jobs.
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Old 02-19-2007, 06:29 PM
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First of all, the United States has only been around for 200 years, and I highly doubt the Europeans did slave traded with Native Americans they didn't know existed.

Second of all, allow me to quote Chris Rock:

"No, I don't think a black person who scored lower on a job test should get the job over a white person. But if its a tie, fuck 'em. Shit, you guys had 200 years to study for this!"
Yes, you make some good points. I'm not really trying to take the most stringent position on affirmative action, but more to try to just get my head around what the experience of someone like a black person or homosexual experiences in today's society. I"m not remotely qualified to speak of their oppression, but just to acknowledge and ponder the predicament of a minority in today's US culture must really be a bitch.

I just thought it pretty weird Hardaway would expouse such hate. Pure idiocy. I'd gather that his growing up years may not have been a piece of cake exactly, no matter what part of the US he grew up in. Must've been a real bitch in many ways.

At any rate, you should brush up on the history of slavery as it relates to the African continent, the North American subcontinent (Caribbean), Europe's role, and the underlying related commerce of that day. You'd then understand the 500 years span a bit vs 200 years. Believe it or not, the United States is NOT the center of the universe (although I sometimes delusionally believe California-stan is)
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Old 02-19-2007, 06:31 PM
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I love that term, haha "the white man" haha. What a crock of shit.

Im white and my ancestors came here quite some time after the whole slavery ordeal went down, so I really have no guilt about being white and I see no reason for a black man to get a job over me because of slavery.
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Old 02-19-2007, 06:36 PM
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I love that term, haha "the white man" haha. What a crock of shit.

Im white and my ancestors came here quite some time after the whole slavery ordeal went down, so I really have no guilt about being white and I see no reason for a black man to get a job over me because of slavery.
I can only speak for myself and my family, but I dont know many white folk that own slaves.
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Old 02-19-2007, 06:40 PM
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Believe it or not, the United States is NOT the center of the universe
Now allow me to quote George Carlin: "I did not need to be told that."
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Old 02-19-2007, 07:20 PM
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To be fair, a lot of the less-qualified black students are less-qualified because they had to grow up in poor neighborhoods and areas with bad educational resources... which in turn is a product of their family's history of oppression by this country.
Exactly. You hit the nail on the head. Today's racism and oppression of minorities is considerably more subtle than slavery and segregation laws, but it's undoubtedly there and is still a huge problem.
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Old 02-19-2007, 08:22 PM
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Exactly. You hit the nail on the head. Today's racism and oppression of minorities is considerably more subtle than slavery and segregation laws, but it's undoubtedly there and is still a huge problem.
but why punish the white people, who have no hand in the problem?
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Old 02-19-2007, 08:37 PM
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but why punish the white people, who have no hand in the problem?
Um. They ARE the problem.
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Old 02-19-2007, 08:54 PM
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Um. They ARE the problem.
Caucasians have no exclusive on racism.
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Old 02-19-2007, 08:56 PM
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Caucasians have no exclusive on racism.
Oh of course. But this country is something along the lines of 80% white, and the amount is even higher in terms of people in power, so it's only natural that white people are purveying MOST of the racism.
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