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Old 03-10-2007, 12:25 PM
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Yes, it's very fashionable to hate Objectivism and I'm sure you want to be the world's greatest humanitarian. Some of us, however, would prefer our own lives to be good before we go around fixing everyone else's.


"Please fasten your own oxygen mask before assisting others." I get that.

I just have the impression that Ayn Rand is kind of a tool.
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Old 03-10-2007, 12:27 PM
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Old 03-10-2007, 12:28 PM
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"Please fasten your own oxygen mask before assisting others." I get that.

I just have the impression that Ayn Rand is kind of a tool.
I'm not asking you to adjust whatever your system of philosophy is, but if you've never read any of her stuff, you probably should just to see what you think. It's for some people, it's not for others.
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What's objectivism?
Three main tenets:

1) Individualism
2) Rational self-interest
3) Capitalism
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Old 03-10-2007, 12:35 PM
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"Rational self interest"

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Well, Nietzche taught self-interest, which was doing anything that could improve your own well-being, even at the expense of the well-being of others. Objectivism teaches that whatever is within your interest but has no adverse effects on anyone or anything else, you should do.
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Well, Nietzche taught self-interest, which was doing anything that could improve your own well-being, even at the expense of the well-being of others. Objectivism teaches that whatever is within your interest but has no adverse effects on anyone or anything else, you should do.
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Why not? You do realize that evolution of species is recognized as scientific truth by pretty much the entire biological sciences establishment that isn't financed by creationists... don't you?

I read a book last year called The Beak of the Finch. The scientists in that book, studying finches in the Galapagos Islands, have witnessed dramatic change over short periods of time. Speciation isn't just some mythological concept Darwin groupies cooked up -- it's evident in research done in the field.
sigh....I refuse to read the creationist-antievolution pages...I read the ones that are well-educated and scientific.......And a gallup poll of a number of scientists say that they avoid questioning or re-examining the theory of macroevolution, for fear of being exiled by the scientific community......

You cant observe macroevolution today like you can adaptation (industrial melanism)....therefore it isnt proven science. Supportable, but not proven.
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Oh...and Ayn Rand owns your soul, zgodt


And Brad, how would I go about acquiring those same pieces of literature from the Ayn Rand institute?

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Oh...and Ayn Rand owns your soul, zgodt


And Brad, how would I go about acquiring those same pieces of literature from the Ayn Rand institute?
Buy one of her books and tear the card out of the center of it and send it out(free postage).
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