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Old 12-25-2013, 01:35 PM
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Dude, you just never give up do ya? I read a lot about their troubles, and I realized that Tate is an asshole. Maybe he drinks too much of his own wine?
So, to some extent, you're agreeing with me?
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Definition of a fanboy. Doesn't stop arguing even without logic or valid reasoning, can't see the other side, and can't think objectively.
Actually, it's his drinking that a lot of the members on the QR forums give Tate a hard time for and joke about. It's not that I don't see valid reasoning. I see the reality of the way things currently are.
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Old 12-25-2013, 01:56 PM
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I see the reality of the way things currently are.
Doesn't sound like you do so far...
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Old 12-25-2013, 02:30 PM
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The reality of the way things currently are is that Tate can no longer sing nearly as well as he used to and is also getting less and less popular while QR is slowly getting more popular. Dedicated To Chaos sold 8,000 copies in the first week and the new self titled sold 13,000 while FU only sold 5,000. And the other reality is that because Tate has become such an asshole like you even pointed out, he has lost a huge amount of respect from many QR fans including myself.
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Old 12-25-2013, 02:47 PM
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The reality of the way things currently are is that Tate can no longer sing nearly as well as he used to and is also getting less and less popular while QR is slowly getting more popular. Dedicated To Chaos sold 8,000 copies in the first week and the new self titled sold 13,000 while FU only sold 5,000. And the other reality is that because Tate has become such an asshole like you even pointed out, he has lost a huge amount of respect from many QR fans including myself.
But the La Torre version is playing bars and casinos while the Tate version is doing the usual clubs and getting support from bigger bands.
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Old 12-25-2013, 04:01 PM
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But how well are Tate's shows selling as compared to Todd's? It's actual ticket and record sales that tell who's really more popular. And if Tate wasn't doing Mindcrime, he'd be doing even worse.
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Old 12-25-2013, 04:07 PM
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Old 12-25-2013, 04:20 PM
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But how well are Tate's shows selling as compared to Todd's? It's actual ticket and record sales that tell who's really more popular. And if Tate wasn't doing Mindcrime, he'd be doing even worse.
Why does it bother you so much to defend one version over the other? The only reason anyone is responding is because you're so obviously butt hurt that no one agrees with you lol
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Old 12-25-2013, 04:26 PM
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Has anybody given a fuck about Queensryche in the past 20 years?




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Old 12-25-2013, 05:54 PM
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Has anybody given a fuck about Queensryche in the past 20 years?

No.
Yes, absolutely. Don't be ridiculous for the sake of making of a point.
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Old 12-25-2013, 05:57 PM
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Yes, absolutely. Don't be ridiculous for the sake of making of a point.
Yeah I like them and never really listened to them until they opened for Priest in 2005
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