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Old 07-20-2013, 08:31 PM
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Old 07-20-2013, 08:43 PM
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Old 07-21-2013, 05:23 AM
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Pleasure to Kill should get a 9/10. As much as I love Sepultura I think that score for Morbid Visions should be much MUCH lower. As much as i love me some sepultura I think Morbid Visions is nothing more than a slayer carbon copy with super shitty production and funny broken english. Oh well, to each his own I guess.
I'm not a big fan of Pleasure to Kill. It is very fast at times, but I just don't think it's put together as well as it could be.

When I first threw Morbid Visions on, I expected to give it a lower score but instead found myself really getting into it. It's amazing how your perception of an album can change over the years. It was probably a good 3 or 4 years since I had listened to it prior to this.
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Old 07-21-2013, 04:00 PM
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Morbid Visions is the one time I'll agree with pituitary retards of the metal community in that yes, it was a Slayer ripoff. And yes, both Reign In Blood and Hell Awaits were better (though not necessarily faster).

Whats fascinating to me about early Sepultura is that no one can quite decide what they are. There are those who say it's thrash, some say it's black, and others say its death. Both Morbid Visions and Schizophrenia are consistently ranked on top death metal albums of all time lists.

7/10 is about what I'd give it, unless I heard some asshole gave a diatribe on how great nu-metal groovy Sepultura was. Then I'd probably give it an 8.5. The atmosphere is great, but aside from Troops of Doom (and the fact that a chorus riff in War sounds suspiciously like it was stolen by Axl Rose for My Michelle), I couldn't really tell you much about the actual songs.

Pleasure To Kill though, the short answer for that is 11/10.
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Old 07-21-2013, 04:16 PM
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So, all fast, all the time, with the exact same rhythms, is what makes a great thrash album?
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Old 07-21-2013, 04:27 PM
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So, all fast, all the time, with the exact same rhythms, is what makes a great thrash album?
I assume you're referring to JRA's assertion that Pleasure to Kill is an 11/10, but as far as I'm concerned, the only great albums I've covered so far (9 and above) are: Ride the Lightning, Feel the Fire, Hell Awaits, Seven Churches, Spreading the Disease, Master of Puppets & Peace Sells. Definitely not all fast, all the time.
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So, all fast, all the time, with the exact same rhythms, is what makes a great thrash album?
Much moreso than 8 minutes of hippy crap thrown together to make Lars seem more intellectually deep and artistically honest than he actually is.

Edit: Also, LOL at the exact same rhythm accusation when this is an album that is legendary for it's breakdowns.
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Old 07-22-2013, 06:03 PM
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Much moreso than 8 minutes of hippy crap thrown together to make Lars seem more intellectually deep and artistically honest than he actually is.

Edit: Also, LOL at the exact same rhythm accusation when this is an album that is legendary for it's breakdowns.
Give it a rest, man. You're making it seem like Metallica were evil and had some kind of strange ulterior motives in making Master of Puppets. Metallica were a bunch of drunk 23-year-olds making music that, yes, people cared about. What is the hippy crap you're talking about? Orion? Really? Master of Puppets is a fine album made by a band who were unfortunately already running out of new ideas at the time. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Old 07-22-2013, 06:52 PM
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Give it a rest, man. You're making it seem like Metallica were evil and had some kind of strange ulterior motives in making Master of Puppets.

Lars most certainly did. That's the whole point.
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Old 07-24-2013, 05:38 PM
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Lars most certainly did. That's the whole point.
Alright. Show me the evidence.
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