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Old 01-30-2014, 08:25 AM
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I agree that if they did a proper tour of North America they would do very well it has been 5 years; or do another Summer Sanitarium I feel like that could be a huge draw if they can get a great supporting cast
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I agree that if they did a proper tour of North America they would do very well it has been 5 years; or do another Summer Sanitarium I feel like that could be a huge draw if they can get a great supporting cast
So many rock festivals do well with headliners to just barely hitthe arena level, I agree Summer Sanitarium would work because honestly they booked bands that the fringe fans would want to see(and you need them to fill the big places).
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I wish they'd say what make it a financial disaster.
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The attendance figures are a little unclear, 40,000 combined for Detroit and ~24,000 for Atlantic city, not sure if that means each day or combined.
Coachella, the American rock (or just non-EDM) festival standard, sold 90,000 three day passes to each weekend. By splitting it into two weekends, keeping it relatively close to LA during a good touring season and making it virtually as big as possible makes it really profitable.
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I hope they also keep in mind that a good majority of fans can't afford to travel really far, so unless you are near say Detroit or Atlantic City it can be a lot of dough to travel, tickets, food etc. When I saw them twice on the Death Magnetic run the areas (Pepsi Center in Denver and HP Pavilion in San Jose) weren't completely sold out but did have a good crowd. If they plan a proper tour and give the fans enough time to plan, they shouldn't have any problems drawing big crowds
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I wish they'd say what make it a financial disaster.
Having to pay the Chili Peppers might have had something to do with it. And the others aren't exactly unheard of either. And yes Detroit was a shitty choice.

Any lengthy tour in the states would make them tons of cash, they can always have successful tours as far as I am concerned. I just think with them being a bit older now they pick the more profitable shows outside of the U.S..
They don't need to kill themselves with long tours anymore, sooner or later they'll do one again but who knows when.
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They can say want they want, but they shot themselves in the foot a few ways:

1. Year 2 in Detroit. Um, no.
2. Not doing full headlining sets both nights. They know most of the people there would love this. It worked pretty well in AC.
3. Band choices. If you care about the money, you aren't going to fill out your lineup with hipster bands. You can't have it both ways. You can either bring more bands your fans like, or bring Lars' flavor of the month.
4. Festivals that work (in both Europe and the US) are held in the same spot at the same time every year and have a specific audience in mind.
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They can say want they want, but they shot themselves in the foot a few ways:

1. Year 2 in Detroit. Um, no.
2. Not doing full headlining sets both nights. They know most of the people there would love this. It worked pretty well in AC.
3. Band choices. If you care about the money, you aren't going to fill out your lineup with hipster bands. You can't have it both ways. You can either bring more bands your fans like, or bring Lars' flavor of the month.
4. Festivals that work (in both Europe and the US) are held in the same spot at the same time every year and have a specific audience in mind.
Exactly, Rock on the Range hasn't had a band of Metallica's popularity yet they sell the festival out every year.
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In the last 5-8 years because they are so big they have gotten smart about tour routing and spacing; instead of plowing through a 6 month haul of week to week touring they have been doing the 2-3 weeks, take 1-2 week break, another 2-3 week tour, another break. I think I can speak for a majority of North American fans who are chopping at the bit for a tour, even if there is no new album to support it.
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