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Old 12-05-2013, 06:47 AM
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headliners that arent nearly as big, but huge lineups of many more prominent bands that probably result in a better value and justification to the average rock fan.

also, not only is columbus a bigger city than detroit, its in the dead center of a shitton of other big cities
Like I said before, I think Metallica overshot themselves trying to make this so diverse. The average Metallica fan is probably not listening to alot of the acts they had perform(I heard it was like a mass exodus during Arctic Monkeys last year). I think they should just do like they did in 2000 where they jumped on a date of Tattoo The Earth.
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Old 12-07-2013, 10:35 AM
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You're less likely to get murdered in Atlantic City than Detroit.
Barely, but there's a lot more to do and see in AC, and it's drivable from NY, Philly, Baltimore, DC, and Boston. Detroit is drivable from.... Detroit and Windsor. And maybe Cleveland and Chicago.

In AC, the further you get from the water, the more likely bad things are going to happen. Fast.
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Old 12-07-2013, 03:34 PM
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Detroit's only about 4 hours or so from Toronto as well, but still, fuck that.
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Old 12-07-2013, 04:21 PM
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When they did AC they said it was so fans from Europe wouldn't have to travel so far
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Old 12-09-2013, 08:52 AM
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So I'm confused by this news I guess... is Orion completely cancelled, or just not being hosted in Detroit?
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Old 12-09-2013, 09:17 AM
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So I'm confused by this news I guess... is Orion completely cancelled, or just not being hosted in Detroit?
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This, honestly they mentioned before that it wasn't working out for them financially. I would have to put the blame on part of the lineup. If they had done a festival with more rock and metal acts it may have sold better. Look at festivals like Rock on the Range, Carolina Rebellion, Aftershock, etc. those all do well every year with bands alot less popular than Metallica. You can't expect fans of Metallica to be enthused about a festival with Modest Mouse and Bassnectar. They overshot the whole thing. When it was in Atlantic City it did pretty well, but they waited months to announce heavier acts. The initial lineup was pretty disappointing and like apparently many others I didn't bother with it. They could easily do a festival and make alot of money, just do one that Metallica fans would actually want to see.
Metallica probably thought if they made them playing a once off, they'd have the same sort of draw they would in Europe, but it just didn't work. US market isn't strong enough for any metal band to pull that off.

Sucks, I really like the idea of that kind of festival, like Reading and Leeds with a real varied line up.
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Old 01-30-2014, 07:35 AM
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METALLICA's JAMES HETFIELD Says ORION MUSIC + MORE Festival Has Been A Financial 'Disaster'
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On January 27, Don Jantzen of the KTBZ-FM (also known as 94.5 The Buzz) alternative rock radio station in Houston, Texas conducted an interview with METALLICA guitarist/vocalist James Hetfield. You can now listen to the chat using the SoundCloud widget below.

Asked when METALLICA fans in the United States can expect to see the band on the road here again, Hetfield said: "You know what? We keep going back to Europe for summer festivals. People keep offering us headline spots over there. [We're going to] South America this year."

He continued: "I don't know what's happening the States.

"The States has gotta step up and want their music.

"I'm not sure what's going on in the States as far as rock and metal goes and concert-wise, but there's not really any willingness to get a big show out there and make it worthwhile to actually get out there and play. You see other bands gathering up six different bands just to go out and play.

"It's pretty tough in North America."

He added: "Right now, it seems like metal is struggling a little bit in the States. Obviously, the Orion [Music + More] festival that we had tried to do the last couple of years has really not been… Gosh, it's been a disaster financially, and it's not able to happen again because of that. So it's a bummer. So, you know, we're doing what we can to keep being alive here. And I hope to get out and play in the States. It seems like forever since we've been out and about. You know, we've hit the coasts and we've done TV stuff and things like that. But it will happen again. So hopefully, to get your fix, you're able to get the ['Metallica Through The Never'] DVD and sit there and headbang with your friends."

Last June's Orion event at Belle Isle in Detroit drew at least 40,000 people over the course of two days to see METALLICA, RED HOT CHILI PEPPERS, DEFTONES, SILVERSUN PICKUPS, RISE AGAINST and more.

The band moved the event to Detroit after holding the inaugural edition in Atlantic City, New Jersey in 2012.

METALLICA was previously said to be contracted to host the band's Orion Music + More festival for two more years in Detroit, according to MLive.com.

Drummer Lars Ulrich said last year in a radio interview, "Detroit was a great experience. We'd love to bring this thing back to Detroit. We've gotta sit down and look at the practical parts of it… It's not an easy thing to launch a festival, but we've had a lot of fun the last two years doing it, and we hope to bring it back to Detroit."

METALLICA surprised fans at Orion Music + More on June 8, 2013 by playing its 1983 debut disc "Kill 'Em All" from beginning to end on a smaller stage at the event. METALLICA was officially announced to play a headlining set on June 9 to close out the festival, but hit the stage at 4:30 p.m. one day earlier for a 10-song set that started with "Hit The Lights" and finished out with "Metal Militia".

The afternoon slot was officially taken by an "act" called DEHAAN — which METALLICA fans may have recognized as the name of actor Dane DeHaan, who is starring in the band's 3D movie, "Metallica Through The Never". Another hint was dropped when Hetfield posted a message on Instagram which read, "Don't miss Dehaan! #MUYA #mff #UwillRegretMissingThem #IfUdoUmightKillEmAll #winkWink #getIt?"

Hetfield came onstage first to introduce "DEHAAN," after which the rest of the members of METALLICA came out and began playing.

At the first Orion festival in 2012, METALLICA played both 1991's self-titled "black album" and 1984's "Ride The Lightning" in their entirety on separate nights.
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Old 01-30-2014, 07:48 AM
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If they'd just do a metal tour they'd make money, they tried way to hard to diversify the Orion shows
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I wish they'd say what make it a financial disaster.
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