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Old 06-14-2013, 04:32 PM
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No. Just no. That is one patchy motherfucker of an album. It goes from brilliant to fucking awful in the space of two songs.
Opinion, opinion, I love it, bottom line,I seriously don't see anything wrong with it.

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Avantasia is too low on this list
It probably will be higher on the list as the year goes by, it might be just one of those albums that gets better with more listens for me
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Old 06-14-2013, 04:37 PM
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Opinion, opinion, I love it, bottom line,I seriously don't see anything wrong with it.
I wanted it to be a good album, because frankly Cinderella are being lazy fucking assholes, but it just isn't. You can be as blinkered and closed-minded about rock music as you want to be, but 'A Different Light', 'Thick And Thin', and several others are terrible songs, and things like 'Solid Ground' are just ridiculous rip-offs of other people.

But 'Ain't That A Bitch', 'Welcome To My Mind' and 'Fool's Paradise' are great. They just show that he could have produced a good album, and failed.

Even if you only like one type of rock music and leave yourself with a small pool of records to choose from, you should still be able to recognise fundamentally bad songs within that pool.

And on top of all of that, the mix is so fucking bad it precludes it from being a great album regardless of the quality of the songs.
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It probably will be higher on the list as the year goes by, it might be just one of those albums that gets better with more listens for me
This is definitely the case for me. I mean, it isn't a great album. It's not even Avantasia's best album. But it does get better with each listen, and some of those songs carry over incredibly well live. And fuck me if some of them aren't catchy as hell. Some of them stick with me more than stuff off the last couple of discs even with their two-year head start.
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Old 06-14-2013, 04:51 PM
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I wanted it to be a good album, because frankly Cinderella are being lazy fucking assholes, but it just isn't. You can be as blinkered and closed-minded about rock music as you want to be, but 'A Different Light', 'Thick And Thin', and several others are terrible songs, and things like 'Solid Ground' are just ridiculous rip-offs of other people.

But 'Ain't That A Bitch', 'Welcome To My Mind' and 'Fool's Paradise' are great. They just show that he could have produced a good album, and failed.
Ok, I'm just going to change my mind about this album and agree with what you say and hate it.Wait a minute, I just remember something, o yea it's YOUR OPINION, not mine.You're basically trying to change my opinion about music, and insulting me is not gonna do any help.Besides, "A Different Light" is actually one of the best songs on the album IMO.I don't want any arguments, just trying to state that your opinion is your opinion as is mine, and you shouldn't try to change my opinion and I shouldn't try to change your opinion.Fact is, no music is factually good or bad, there is always gonna be someone in the world that likes or dislikes that music.

That being said, Cinderella have been EXTREMELY lazy in my opinion and need to make some more new music, but Tom did hint awhile back (don't remember when) that Cinderella would be releasing new material, nothing official, but I guess we can just keep our fingers crossed.
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This is definitely the case for me. I mean, it isn't a great album. It's not even Avantasia's best album. But it does get better with each listen, and some of those songs carry over incredibly well live. And fuck me if some of them aren't catchy as hell. Some of them stick with me more than stuff off the last couple of discs even with their two-year head start.
Yea your right, The Metal Opera Part II is their best album IMO, and this definitely doesn't top it.I'm listening to the whole thing again right now, and it certainly has potential to get a higher rank.I agree that not a lot of them are catchy, but the ones that are catchy sure are! (Spectres, Sleepwalking, The Great Mystery), and maybe it's just me, but the album has a slight hint of 80's AOR sound, of course that could be the fact that Tobias is a 80's music fan, or Michael Kiske (who plays in an 80's sounding AOR band now) had a hand in about two tracks, or it's just me trying to find 80's in everything
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*facepalms* why must everyone spark an argument every time I mention something about the 80's? Listen, I wasn't there when the 80's happened, so no, I won't stop listening to music I like, but thanks for asking! I'll change my sentence from 80's AOR to 2000's AOR, will that makes things better for you? And I would really like know, what REAL metal bands would you suggest o master of metal?
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*facepalms* why must everyone spark an argument every time I mention something about the 80's? Listen, I wasn't there when the 80's happened, so no, I won't stop listening to music I like, but thanks for asking! I'll change my sentence from 80's AOR to 2000's AOR, will that makes things better for you? And I would really like know, what REAL metal bands would you suggest o master of metal?
here's some honest advice: stop biting on troll bait and you will have a much better time on this forum
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