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Old 10-15-2012, 06:34 PM
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Let me reiterate. I'm assuming there won't be shows added after because there's no logical reason for them to go all the way back to the other side of the country. Yes, occasionally tours do have terrible routing and go across the country twice, but what are the chances of that happening here? With the amount of dates they have already there's really no reason for them to book enough to get all the way back east. Not only that, but The Faceless is from LA so it makes sense for the tour to start here and end in Tucson. And I already explained why there should be more dates before Ogden, but I'll say it again, because apparently you didn't understand the first two times. California Metalfest is on the 24th and the show in Ogden, Utah is on the 27th. Aside from the gap in dates, that's also a long drive. It would be logical for them to book another show or two between them. There are really only a couple other opportunities for added shows, and the most feasible one I see is a show in El Paso or Albuquerque before Tucson.
I read your posts. Nowhere did I deny there could be shows in between. I just said I think they'll add some after. Not to mention I said "more dates tba," not even in regards to New England/California/Wherever dates. I never said the added dates would be necessarily be in New England.


With that said, I said I would guess they would be added after, because "more dates TBA" implies multiple, and there's 2 possible days for a show in between Metalfest and the tour. They're already going from Pennsylvania to Oklahoma. I don't think it's that implausible for them to go from Arizona (the last stop so far) back to Texas or something and more Midwest/East coast dates. These Sumerian tours have dates added at the end all the time. Not to mention I think Sumerian would want to get the most out of the HAARP Machine, considering they have to pay to get half the band over here & for working visas etc.


With that said, I'm hoping there's more dates at the end so I can see this tour. Otherwise, this is a retarded argument.

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Old 10-15-2012, 08:22 PM
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I read your posts. Nowhere did I deny there could be shows in between. I just said I think they'll add some after. Not to mention I said "more dates tba," not even in regards to New England/California/Wherever dates. I never said the added dates would be necessarily be in New England.
Perhaps you didn't say it in your original post, but it is very much implied considering you said it in all caps immediately after a post complaining about no New England dates. And when I said there would be no room for a New England date that is when you first responded to me. Then in your next response you said:

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I was just saying it makes sense for them to be after all the shows already listed, than before. Especially if in regard to New England.

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With that said, I said I would guess they would be added after, because "more dates TBA" implies multiple, and there's 2 possible days for a show in between Metalfest and the tour. They're already going from Pennsylvania to Oklahoma.
And as I pointed out, there are other opportunities for added shows. Not only the day between Austin and Tucson, but they could book a day between Pittsburgh and Oklahoma City or even Springfield and Pittsburgh. Also, when a tour announcement is made with "more dates TBA" it usually means there are a few that haven't been secured yet, not a whole bunch.

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I don't think it's that implausible for them to go from Arizona (the last stop so far) back to Texas or something and more Midwest/East coast dates.
Implausible? No. But it's very unlikely and you know that.

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These Sumerian tours have dates added at the end all the time. Not to mention I think Sumerian would want to get the most out of the HAARP Machine, considering they have to pay to get half the band over here & for working visas etc.
Even if there was something booked after it would probably be San Diego and nothing more.

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With that said, I'm hoping there's more dates at the end so I can see this tour. Otherwise, this is a retarded argument.
Like I said above, there's a day between Pittsburgh and Oklahoma City. St. Louis is in the middle, so you might be in luck. But this argument is only retarded because of how little sense you're making. Aside from all of the points I've already made, you also mentioned that Michael Keene said they have another tour being booked. So why should they add 10 dates to this if they're planning on hitting other places on the next one?
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Old 10-15-2012, 08:59 PM
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I don't know. You're the one that took me saying "I think they would add more dates after instead of before" as gospel that there were definitely more dates being added after.



Also this argument started before he tweeted that.
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I don't know. You're the one that took me saying "I think they would add more dates after instead of before" as gospel that there were definitely more dates being added after.
You first said:

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There's still a good 8 - 10 shows after the last date
I'm not taking your assumptions as gospel, I'm telling you why I think your assumptions are wrong.

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Also this argument started before he tweeted that.
The point was that it didn't change your reasoning.
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You said "And how do you know there are more shows after? The tour is coming in a circle back to the Southwest. The chances of them going from Arizona all the way back to the East Coast are very slim."


Never did I say there were definitely more shows. You stated that I said that.





I'm done with this though, it's just a circular argument. All I said is it would make more sense for there to be shows added after than before. I fail to see how that's wrong.

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Old 10-15-2012, 09:27 PM
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You said "And how do you know there are more shows after? The tour is coming in a circle back to the Southwest. The chances of them going from Arizona all the way back to the East Coast are very slim."

Never did I say there were definitely more shows. You stated that I said that.

I'm done with this though, it's just a circular argument.
Dude... re-read that quote.

"There's still a good 8 - 10 shows after the last date"

You STATED there are 8 to 10 shows after Tucson.
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Old 10-15-2012, 09:31 PM
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Or read the full quote:

"There's still a good 8 - 10 shows after the last date to put it in before Christmas".



That's not a statement of fact.
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It still reads as a statement. Like you knew there were planning on booking 8 to 10 shows. It's the way you worded it that makes it confusing. What you should has said is, "They could potentially add 8 to 10 shows before Christmas."

Now if you still think they will do that, there's nothing I can say to change that now. We've each said why we think they will/won't. But I hope that clears things up a bit.
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"There's still a good 8 - 10 shows after the last date to put it in before Christmas. Even though The Faceless might just ignore that anyway. I doubt they'll add more shows before." It may be worded poorly, but it's obvious I did not mean there are definitely more shows. Especially in context to the argument. With that said, no I don't actually think they'll add more. If they do, it'll be west coast.


Also I'm jealous of anybody that gets to see this. I might drive to KC for it.

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Old 10-15-2012, 09:47 PM
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I didn't think it was obvious because the two sentences seemed to contradict each other.

I do think there's a good possibility of a St. Louis date for you. It's a pretty far drive without a show. There are a lot of other cities they could hit along the way though, so who knows.
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