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Old 03-13-2012, 08:36 AM
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That said, I think the ban is stupid. Simple slam-dancing will always be a part of metal. Always. Plus, there's no way to enforce it. Security can't go into the crowd and start pulling out people who run into other people and kick them out. That's not safe for the security crew, and it would lead to a lot of situations where people would be getting unfairly ejected because others are running into them, and not the other way around.

The only thing to do is eject the crowd surfers - which is fine by me, for two reasons:

First, it is the most dangerous form of moshing. People get hurt badly doing this - even paralyzed from time to time. You can say "good for them - they deserve it", but let's face it - we've all been young and stupid before, and sometimes it makes sense to have a few rules that protect us from ourselves. Enough said.

Secondly, being ejected for repeat offenses of crowd surfing is the way things were when I was coming up. If you did it once, you probably wouldn't get thrown out. If you did it more than once, your chances of being ejected went up exponentially. It was just part of the game. That's why you would try not to get shoved toward the front, or if you did, then you would either get down off the top of the crowd, or try to avoid security when you got pushed up front. If you didn't, then maybe you got kicked out. Them were the breaks - it's a risk you took if you wanted to crowd surf.

So in summary, the only reasonable solution is the way it was done years ago - when us old geezers were in charge. Imagine that.
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Old 03-13-2012, 08:42 AM
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But that's not really what i'm saying at all.
Yes it is, you just don't realize it, because it's what you're implying, not what you're saying directly.

Everyone wants to be up front. What you're saying effectively translates to, "if you're not young and in good shape and willing to take an elbow to the ribs or a boot to the head, then you don't get to have a good spot up front".

...and fuck that. It's not fair. Period.
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Old 03-13-2012, 08:47 AM
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Yeah; I bruise easily, but my vision is absolute shit too, so it's a game of roulette going up on the rail. Really fucking hate crowdsurfers too, but don't mind moshing.
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Old 03-13-2012, 08:48 AM
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Moshing is fucking gay. So is this. What they need to do is throw those fucking crowd surfers out when they catch them. Can't stop moshing nearly as easily as that.
Nothing worse than a fat guy's boot to your face during a song.
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Old 03-13-2012, 08:55 AM
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So in summary, the only reasonable solution is the way it was done years ago - when us old geezers were in charge. Imagine that.
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Crowd surfers can fuck off.
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Old 03-13-2012, 09:00 AM
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I agree with Nat about ejecting crowd surfers. I'd be fine if venues banned it actually. The logic behind it baffles me and it is very dangerous mainly because you're looking at the stage and you can't see the jackasses coming up behind you until you get kicked in the head or they land on you. I've seen a few shows get stopped before because somebody got hurt while crowd surfing.

There's no order to crowd surfing, the people who do it are forcing you to participate in an activity you have no desire in doing. Moshing can be brutal and you can get hurt but at least there's some order to moshing and an unspoken code to follow in the pit so you don't intentionally hurt somebody seriously. The best thing about moshing is if you don't want to do it you can easily avoid it in most cases. As opposed to a sweaty guys ass landing on your face because some idiot decided to go crowd surfing.
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Old 03-13-2012, 09:05 AM
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Old 03-13-2012, 09:18 AM
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Crowd-surfing is a necessary element to any show, in my opinion. It just adds an element of fun seeing other people having a blast.
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Old 03-13-2012, 09:35 AM
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Crowd-surfing is a necessary element to any show, in my opinion. It just adds an element of fun seeing other people having a blast.
...whilst also seeing people/experiencing terror as huge neckbeards hit the back of your head with their boots. Not my idea of a blast.
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Old 03-13-2012, 11:07 AM
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I know a lot of security guys can be dicks sometimes but crowd surfing can be dangerous for them too. I really can't think of any group at a show that isn't needlessly endangered by crowd surfing except the bands themselves I guess.
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