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Old 12-04-2011, 08:50 AM
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If they were smart they would have jumped on that Anthrax tour like originally planned
Reading your posts makes my head hurt.
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Old 12-04-2011, 09:00 AM
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Reading your posts makes my head hurt.
Id love to know what's so bad about an Anthrax/Testament/Overkill/Death Angel tour




For one it'd be a lot bigger venues than the ones they keep headlining every year, you know, playing to the exact same crowd year in year out
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Old 12-04-2011, 09:29 AM
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Could you please tell me where I stated that would be a bad tour? You clearly misinterpreted my post. I was alluding to your ignorance, not that the tour would be bad. Overkill has taken that time to write their next album, if you were unaware. They had conflicting plans, it's not like they just decided to cancel because they wanted to do their own tour. And FYI, Overkill is playing at the same venue Anthrax did on their LA date, so do you really think they needed to be on that tour in the first place? Anthrax isn't nearly as popular as they were in the late '80s and early '90s, so it's not like it was going to open them up to a giant new fan base; it was a classic thrash tour for classic thrash fans.
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They don't sell enough tickets. I like Overkill but its true.
Fine, so put together a package that makes sense.
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Old 12-04-2011, 11:04 AM
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Overkill is playing at the same venue Anthrax did on their LA date, so do you really think they needed to be on that tour in the first place? Anthrax isn't nearly as popular as they were in the late '80s and early '90s, so it's not like it was going to open them up to a giant new fan base; it was a classic thrash tour for classic thrash fans.
Also true here. Anthrax are here in March and are playing the same venue Overkill has headlined the last three years running.
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Old 12-04-2011, 12:39 PM
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Also true here. Anthrax are here in March and are playing the same venue Overkill has headlined the last three years running.
Well here they aren't even coming around this time after in recent years not being able to fill up a venue less than a quarter of the size of the once Anthrax just played


And if they were working on a new record that tour would have introduced them to new fans who would then buy the album when it was released. Instead of just retreading the same territory over and over.
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Fine, so put together a package that makes sense.
Which is exactly what the Anthrax/Testament tour would have been.
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Well no, the Anthrax tour situation would only make sense to Anthrax, not to Overkill. Overkill will make more money headlining the same territories than they will playing third fiddle on the Anthrax tour. Playing bigger venues is basically irrelevant if you're not seeing the financial return for it, which they won't be. That money is going to Anthrax and Testament.

And reaching new fans doesn't enter into either. You and I both know people don't watch the first two bands, no matter who it is, unless they're already fans. And if Overkill don't have many fans in those areas, that isn't going to change by being on early in the evening.

Their decision to not be on the Anthrax tour still makes the most sense for them. I don't see how Death Angel benefit from this tour either.

However, putting together a Killfest bill of bands who don't suit it is just silly. Here the Killfest bill had three thrash bands on it, including Destruction. The sensible thing to do was to bring someone like Kreator over on a co-headline and take out someone like Havok as the opener. Or bring over bands US fans don't get to see too often. Gama Bomb (who suck), Suicidal Angels, Angelus Apatrida, Korzus, someone like that.
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Old 12-04-2011, 01:09 PM
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Well no, the Anthrax tour situation would only make sense to Anthrax, not to Overkill. Overkill will make more money headlining the same territories than they will playing third fiddle on the Anthrax tour. Playing bigger venues is basically irrelevant if you're not seeing the financial return for it, which they won't be. That money is going to Anthrax and Testament.

And reaching new fans doesn't enter into either. You and I both know people don't watch the first two bands, no matter who it is, unless they're already fans. And if Overkill don't have many fans in those areas, that isn't going to change by being on early in the evening.

Their decision to not be on the Anthrax tour still makes the most sense for them. I don't see how Death Angel benefit from this tour either.

However, putting together a Killfest bill of bands who don't suit it is just silly. Here the Killfest bill had three thrash bands on it, including Destruction. The sensible thing to do was to bring someone like Kreator over on a co-headline and take out someone like Havok as the opener. Or bring over bands US fans don't get to see too often. Gama Bomb (who suck), Suicidal Angels, Angelus Apatrida, Korzus, someone like that.


It benefitted Death Angel because they were playing to bigger crowds who actually might not know them. And I completely disagree with the comment about not watching the first couple bands unless I know them. More often then not I'm at the venue early and am obviously seeing who is on first. In the past I have been turned on to bands through seeing them open for other bigger names. That and any of those bands mentioned wouldn't be enough of a draw. Hell Exodus and Kreator did a coheadliner here a few years back and the venue was GIVING tickets away.
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The only way I wouldn't watch every band is if I know that I wouldn't like one of the openers.
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