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Old 09-05-2011, 02:41 PM
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I'm not a Dream Theater fan by any means, but I don't know why everyone's being such a fucking sourpuss over this. With their music the way it is, i'm sure switching the set up majorly every single night has to be quite a chore. I mean, 99% of other bands use the same setlist for every show during a single touring leg, which is i'm pretty sure what Rudess is talking about - one touring leg, not the entire cycle. If they started using that same setlist from tour to tour, then that'd be rather lame, but if that's not the case (I don't think it would be), I don't know why everyone is getting their panties in a twist.

And to the comment about fans wanting to be surprised about what's going to be played, there's a really simple solution for that: Don't look up setlists on the internet before your show. If you want to check it out because of your own curiosity, that's fine (I almost always do), but don't complain about not being surprised afterwards.
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Old 09-05-2011, 03:00 PM
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They should probably do a metallica system:

- 6 predictable/popular songs that get played in each set
- Choose 7 out of 12 songs that get rotated to give an element of surprise
- 2 out 5 covers to play lol

In that way, DT are catering for the people that want to hear the 'hits', They play a few rotated surprises, the drummer doesnt have to learn every song, some DT fans will remain happy. BTW i know the set will have to be 3 hours due to the length of the songs!

Or to solve it all, bring back Mike!

I can see the band doing this tour and then going on haitius, they will hate doing the same songs over and over....i see it as a waste of talent - or they could be getting on a bit and wanting to chill out a bit more now.
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Old 09-05-2011, 03:06 PM
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I don't think playing "hits" are the issue. They're not suggesting they're just going to play hits sets. In fact, I suspect they won't. They're just saying they'll be sticking to the same set for a tour.

Also, having seen Mangini play, I honestly have no desire to see Portnoy back. Mangini was awesome.
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With their music the way it is, i'm sure switching the set up majorly every single night has to be quite a chore.
Probably, but when you're a band who have made their name based on being outstanding musicians, that's not much of an excuse.

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I mean, 99% of other bands use the same setlist for every show during a single touring leg.
And they're all wrong for doing it too. Majority doesn't equal correct.

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And to the comment about fans wanting to be surprised about what's going to be played, there's a really simple solution for that: Don't look up setlists on the internet before your show.
It's not just a case of not looking up the setlist. A lot of bands' setlist can predicted WITHOUT looking up the setlist of a specific tour, and that not happening is something DT fans have long valued. As I said above, I don't think they'll slip into the playing-the-same-hits-every-year trap, but nevertheless, the changing setlists was a dimension of a DT show that set them apart from other bands. They're just stripping away another piece of what has made Dream Theater Dream Theater.
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Again I just don't see the problem. It's not like they are going to be doing the same songs every tour. Maybe 2-3 at most, but that's it. DT is still DT, they are just Mangini-fied. now.

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They should probably do a metallica system:

- 6 predictable/popular songs that get played in each set
- Choose 7 out of 12 songs that get rotated to give an element of surprise
- 2 out 5 covers to play lol

In that way, DT are catering for the people that want to hear the 'hits', They play a few rotated surprises, the drummer doesnt have to learn every song, some DT fans will remain happy. BTW i know the set will have to be 3 hours due to the length of the songs!

Or to solve it all, bring back Mike!

I can see the band doing this tour and then going on haitius, they will hate doing the same songs over and over....i see it as a waste of talent - or they could be getting on a bit and wanting to chill out a bit more now.
Also, clearly, you are fucking insane.
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Old 09-17-2011, 09:54 AM
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It's not just a case of not looking up the setlist. A lot of bands' setlist can predicted WITHOUT looking up the setlist of a specific tour, and that not happening is something DT fans have long valued. As I said above, I don't think they'll slip into the playing-the-same-hits-every-year trap, but nevertheless, the changing setlists was a dimension of a DT show that set them apart from other bands. They're just stripping away another piece of what has made Dream Theater Dream Theater.
Those bands' setlists can be predicted because they do play a lot of the same songs from tour to tour and cycle to cycle and don't really change anything up other than adding 2 or 3 new songs in. If Dream Theater resorts to doing that, then fine, point taken. But if they do what I and what even you think they'll do, which is keep the same setlist for one tour, and then maybe to an overhaul of it for the next tour, it'll become much more difficult to predict.
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