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Old 08-04-2011, 08:45 AM
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Old 08-04-2011, 10:38 AM
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Well, again, I question whether fortitude for fortitude's sake is such an admirable quality. The Catholic Church really stuck to their guns for centuries on the whole Galileo-and-Copernicus-were-wrong-the-earth-is-the-center-of-the-cosmos thing. Does that make them heroes? Sometimes wrong is just wrong. Sometimes dumb is just dumb. And sticking to it regardless of what everyone says doesn't make you strong or admirable, it just makes you more wrong and more dumb.
It's not necessarily fortitude for fortitude's sake, it's fortitude in the face of monetary success. They could be big in the metal world, however their ideology does not allow that. I believe the fortitude to not sacrifice your ideology for your band's success is an admirable quality. Wrong can certainly be just wrong, but I don't think that's what's being argued here.

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If you look back at what I wrote, I don't think that's what you'll find. I said "no idea, no paradigm, no belief, no anything can be taken as definitively true," which is correct. That's very different than saying "any idea, any paradigm, any belief, any anything is just as valid as any other idea or any belief or any paradigm, etc." Though I actually do believe it pertains to morality (no one set of morals is any more valid than one other set of morals), but that's strictly because of the falseness of archetypal morality, which happens to be the subject in question here I believe.

Absolute relativism and perspectivism are separate branches of philosophy, but they are similar I suppose. Most importantly, perspectivism, though it implies that there can't be any absolute knowledge of anything (epistemological noumonon), whatever it may be, it does not suggest that every single view is as valid as every single other view.

For example, an absolute relativist might say:

"my grass turns purple when I pee on it."

And if we accepted absolute relativism, we would regard that as 100% true because to an absolute relativist the truth is what you choose it to be, simply because of its relevance in your mind. Under strict Nietzschean perspectivism, usually several legitimate perspectives are possible, thus the interpretation of truths. But if we start discussing "what is legitimate," we're just going to reach platitudes; I find it for the most part equivocal. Rather, as far as Nietzsche is concerned, we can never be sure that we are absolutely right. If we are convinced we're absolutely right, we are much more likely to be absolutely wrong. That's the beauty of this philosophy to me, which is why I find it irritating when folks talk in definitive correctness.
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Old 08-04-2011, 02:12 PM
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As for MeloDeath, I'm no expert but I like In Flames and Dark Tranquility and think maybe it's time I checked out some Carcass and At the Gates.
Definitely time! Heartwork is my favorite melodeath album.
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Old 08-04-2011, 06:25 PM
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One of my absolute favorite bands! Some of their stuff could be considered melo-death, some of it not. A few of my favorite songs of theirs for you to check out:

Jesus Cries (from The Spectral Sorrows)

15:36 (from Infernal)

Aftermath (from Crimson II)

When All Is Said (from Unorthodox)

Twilight (from Purgatory Afterglow)
Hell yes good picks!

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Absolutely. As I would consider Crimson and Crimson II the greatest melodeath albums I've ever heard.
I figured some of their stuff would qualify. I'm in agreement those albums are bad ass and definitely on my top ten!

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Old 08-04-2011, 07:36 PM
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Oh boy how many times have we had this discussion...
I remember one back on the official Mayhem boards about therapeutic philosophy vs. Aristotelian philosophy, or something like that... and that was a fun one.

This is the more traditional "no one can hold a bird's eye view" discussion.
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Arghoslent happened.
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Old 08-06-2011, 03:36 AM
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Forgot to add, Manks you really should get into Hypocrisy. The Final Chapter is my favorite by them. Oh, and they kick ass live.

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