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Old 08-03-2011, 01:39 PM
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i sure hope you guys dont do this
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Old 08-03-2011, 01:50 PM
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It's very easy to commend Arghoslent for maintaining their steadfast ideology, despite that ideology being different from mine or yours, in the face of being successful. I don't see how acknowledgment of fortitude is only okay when the one with fortitude isn't a racist, bigot, etc. We do it in American history all the time.
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Old 08-03-2011, 01:56 PM
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I doubt you'll find a freshman philosophy class anywhere that takes an in-depth look at Nietzschean Perspectivism, unfortunately.

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but that's still a bunch of meaningless bullshit.
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Old 08-03-2011, 02:16 PM
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Personally, I don't like Arghoslent's music all that much, but I will say that anyone here who judges them on their belief system alone, must have a similar stance on Deicide or Vital Remains, as they perpetuate extremist religious views. Or is bigotry suddenly worse than wanting to eradicate Christianity from the planet?
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Old 08-03-2011, 02:44 PM
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I don't think the two things are all that similar, but I don't care for that kind of hatred and prejudice in my music period.
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Old 08-03-2011, 02:52 PM
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I don't think the two things are all that similar, but I don't care for that kind of hatred and prejudice in my music period.
Well that's fair enough, but I'm just making the point that if one band is getting chastised for having religious, political or otherwise, beliefs, then surely they all should.

Dislike the band for the music, not for their beliefs.
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Old 08-03-2011, 07:24 PM
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Dislike the band for the music, not for their beliefs.
This.

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Old 08-03-2011, 08:54 PM
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racist: The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
The problem was less about your definition of racism, and more about the scientifically baseless (and morally repugnant) claim that any race is in any way genetically inferior/superior to any other race. The concept of "race" is demonstrable meaningless in terms of genetics. Period.
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Old 08-03-2011, 09:29 PM
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Well that's fair enough, but I'm just making the point that if one band is getting chastised for having religious, political or otherwise, beliefs, then surely they all should.

Dislike the band for the music, not for their beliefs.
Well, it's different in hating a system of belief that people ascribe to rather than hating people just for being who they are... which is pretty significant, as differences go. But sure -- blanket hatred is not going to win a lot of points with me, whoever the targets are.

As for the second part -- "dislike the band for the music, not for their beliefs" -- I mean, you may be a reasonable and intelligent person, but that's not a reasonable or intelligent position. The beliefs are part of the music. For many bands -- and especially for hardcore "message" bands like, say, Arghoslent and Deicide -- the beliefs are the driving force behind the music.
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