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Old 02-14-2011, 08:54 PM
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Hey... it looks like the official boards are finally fixed...
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They still do to some degree, but it's completely suffocated by the bitching between members. I haven't been there in a while though, don't know how it is now.
Its like a Jersey shore episode overthere, (even though ive never seen jersey shore but I can imagine!) Very entertaining for me.
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Hey... it looks like the official boards are finally fixed...
they were fixed for a bit, i for the most part stopped posting on there also i mainly go between here and the unofficial boards anymore due to lack of intelect on the official boards besides a few people.
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In Wine's defense he does put a lot of thought into his picks so I give him credit for that. he knows music I just think trying to be hip went to his head a little.

But, yeah if you're trying to tell metalheads who want crunching riffs, great guitar solos and some great sing-a-long driving music that Agalloch and Alcest were the 2 best cd's of 2010, you're gonna get shit.

I know people on here love those bands but your list comes off as Hipster to those people when you're trying to sell Shoegaze to people who want power chords.

I get Agalloch to a point but still think they're music doesn't fit the vocals most times. Alcest... no.

I recently heard Agalloch hasn't even sold 100 tickets to their Sonar show yet. Not a good sign...
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Old 02-15-2011, 01:08 PM
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In Wine's defense he does put a lot of thought into his picks so I give him credit for that. he knows music I just think trying to be hip went to his head a little.

But, yeah if you're trying to tell metalheads who want crunching riffs, great guitar solos and some great sing-a-long driving music that Agalloch and Alcest were the 2 best cd's of 2010, you're gonna get shit.

I know people on here love those bands but your list comes off as Hipster to those people when you're trying to sell Shoegaze to people who want power chords.

I get Agalloch to a point but still think they're music doesn't fit the vocals most times. Alcest... no.

I recently heard Agalloch hasn't even sold 100 tickets to their Sonar show yet. Not a good sign...

I'm driving 8 hours to see them in Cleveland. I think the opposite. Their vocals always seem to match their music. With bands like Agalloch and Alcest, the vocals are more like a third instrument; it just contributes to the atmosphere and emotion of the sound. No power chord can capture that. But I don't think most metal listeners listen to music for the same reasons I do, hence why this kind of thing is equivocal.
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In Wine's defense he does put a lot of thought into his picks so I give him credit for that. he knows music I just think trying to be hip went to his head a little.

But, yeah if you're trying to tell metalheads who want crunching riffs, great guitar solos and some great sing-a-long driving music that Agalloch and Alcest were the 2 best cd's of 2010, you're gonna get shit.

I know people on here love those bands but your list comes off as Hipster to those people when you're trying to sell Shoegaze to people who want power chords.

I get Agalloch to a point but still think they're music doesn't fit the vocals most times. Alcest... no.

I recently heard Agalloch hasn't even sold 100 tickets to their Sonar show yet. Not a good sign...

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I'm driving 8 hours to see them in Cleveland. I think the opposite. Their vocals always seem to match their music. With bands like Agalloch and Alcest, the vocals are more like a third instrument; it just contributes to the atmosphere and emotion of the sound. No power chord can capture that. But I don't think most metal listeners listen to music for the same reasons I do, hence why this kind of thing is equivocal.
Its hard for me to get into something unless I know the lyrics and like them, even Trivium I didnt like until I was reading there lyrics, and then watched there live performances, I always said they have nice guitar riffs but the vocals chased me off.... Same thing with Vektor, I didnt like until I read the lyrics and then seen the band, I need lyrics and some visual assurance.

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Its hard for me to get into something unless I know the lyrics and like them, even Trivium I didnt like until I was reading there lyrics, and then watched there live performances, I always said they have nice guitar riffs but the vocals chased me off.... Same thing with Vektor, I didnt like until I read the vocals and then seen the band, I need lyrics and some visual assurance.
This is why I say I listen to music for different reasons than most people. I haven't even looked up Vektor's lyrics, I just know I like their music. In most cases, I don't even view music and vocals as linked elements to a sound. It's only when we get vocals that actually act as an instrument that I'd say they're really "musical." I prefer instrumental music to music with vocals these days. Instrumental bands just seem to have their priorities straight.

Lyrics are a non-factor for me.
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Their vocals always seem to match their music. With bands like Agalloch and Alcest, the vocals are more like a third instrument; it just contributes to the atmosphere and emotion of the sound. No power chord can capture that.
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Its hard for me to get into something unless I know the lyrics and like them, even Trivium I didnt like until I was reading there lyrics, and then watched there live performances, I always said they have nice guitar riffs but the vocals chased me off.... Same thing with Vektor, I didnt like until I read the vocals and then seen the band, I need lyrics and some visual assurance.

This is why I say I listen to music for different reasons than most people. I haven't even looked up Vektor's lyrics, I just know I like their music. In most cases, I don't even view music and vocals as linked elements to a sound. It's only when we get vocals that actually act as an instrument that I'd say they're really "musical." I prefer instrumental music to music with vocals these days. Instrumental bands just seem to have their priorities straight.

Lyrics are a non-factor for me.

i agree with the both of you.Its nice to know the lyrics because i like to be able to think of something in my head that i think would match the lyrics and go a little nuts headbanging to it,i also like insrtumentals cause its more chill and relaxingand its more lightly headbang.It really all depends on my mood.
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