Your Big 4 Of every other Genre

[Sanitarium78]

Originally Posted by Maiden33

-The concept of Manowar being better than Blind Guardian literally makes my brain get diarrhea.

I think that's just about the funniest line ever read on here.

[mankvill]

Originally Posted by The_jman

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Metalcore
Killswitch Engage
All that Remains
As I lay Dying
Bullet for my valentine
(Fuck lamb of god, influential on the genre as they might be I can't get into them)
(fifth would be shadows fall, I just like bullet more even if shadows fall has been around longer)

None of these bands are metalcore, nor are they influential.

[ravenheart]

Originally Posted by JLRedWing13

Here's a hint: Their name starts with a R and ends with an ush.

No, I think it's probably going to start with Fates and end with Warning.

[ravenheart]

Originally Posted by mankvill

Doom metal that isn't Black Sabbath:

Pentagram
Saint Vitus
Candlemass
Trouble?

Cathedral well ahead of Trouble.

[Dextrimental]

Originally Posted by mankvill

None of these bands are metalcore, nor are they influential.

They are metalcore, though bad choices for a metalcore 'big 4', and theres a SHITLOAD of kids out there who are playing guitar because of bands like Bullet For My Valentine and Trivium. Therefore, influential.

My Metalcore big 4 would be:

Killswitch Engage
Trivium
Avenged Sevenfold
Shadows Fall/Lamb Of God (I can't decide)

[The_jman]

Originally Posted by Dextrimental

They are metalcore, though bad choices for a metalcore 'big 4', and theres a SHITLOAD of kids out there who are playing guitar because of bands like Bullet For My Valentine and Trivium. Therefore, influential.

My Metalcore big 4 would be:

Killswitch Engage
Trivium
Avenged Sevenfold
Shadows Fall/Lamb Of God (I can't decide)

I agree with your picks too, I just hesitated to put a7x in the metalcore, because more of their albums aren't than are, but hey.

[mankvill]

Originally Posted by Dextrimental

They are metalcore, though bad choices for a metalcore 'big 4', and theres a SHITLOAD of kids out there who are playing guitar because of bands like Bullet For My Valentine and Trivium. Therefore, influential.

My Metalcore big 4 would be:

Killswitch Engage
Trivium
Avenged Sevenfold
Shadows Fall/Lamb Of God (I can't decide)

nope.avi

Earth Crisis
Converge
Agnostic Front
Rorshach

If people are gonna differentiate between death metal and melodeath, I think they need to separate godly metalcore from shitty melodic metalcore.

[Dextrimental]

Originally Posted by The_jman

I agree with your picks too, I just hesitated to put a7x in the metalcore, because more of their albums aren't than are, but hey.

Well, every album they've released has included melodic choruses, a staple of metalcore, and the first two albums, and the latest album, contain breakdowns. They're not what they once were, but they still hold alot of hardcore influences, IMO anyway.

[The_jman]

Originally Posted by Dextrimental

Well, every album they've released has included melodic choruses, a staple of metalcore, and the first two albums, and the latest album, contain breakdowns. They're not what they once were, but they still hold alot of hardcore influences, IMO anyway.

Good points.

[Dextrimental]

Originally Posted by mankvill

nope.avi

Earth Crisis
Converge
Agnostic Front
Rorshach

If people are gonna differentiate between death metal and melodeath, I think they need to separate godly metalcore from shitty melodic metalcore.

Hey man I dig that stuff too, but I loves my melodic metalcore, and whether you dig it or not, its still metalcore. And those bands I classify under more straight up hardcore than any kind of metalcore, and I've listened to all but Rorshach since I was like ten (my brother is a huge punk/hardcore fan). When I hear the term metalcore, I think of the more modern stuff, like the bands I have listed