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Old 05-24-2010, 07:17 AM
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Well you live in Europe so while he might be a big deal there he's hardly a blip on the radar in North America. It's not a big deal to me though on who knows what band and how long they've been around for. People are always discovering artists at different points in their careers. That's one of the big reasons so many bands keep playing for decades, they keep gaining new fans along the way.
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Old 05-24-2010, 09:37 AM
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An intresting point was brought up about this over on the Black Sabbath message board. A few people feel that it's in bad taste to release a tribute song so soon and before Ronnie is even buried. They think this is nothing more than an artist trying to make a cash grap with a tribute album and trying to get noticed off of Ronnie's name. I don't really see it that way but it does bring up a valid arguement I think. Of course we have to wait and see where the profits from the tribute album sales are going. If it's going to one of charities that Ronnie and Wendy supported than fine. But if it goes to the artist instead than it is nothing more than a cash grap and a attempt to profit off of Ronnie.
This is where you not being familiar with Jorn comes into play. Dio is his biggest vocal influence, and that's been downright obvious to any fan of his work over the years. Also, he's no stranger to covers and cover albums whatsoever at this point - 3 or 4 of these tracks he had already covered before. Also, Jorn has been doing nothing but moving up the radar over the past couple of years, he's getting to the point where he doesn't need a desperate cash-grab to have people care about him. He's one of the most revered vocalists in "underground" modern metal at this point.

Also - I am 100% positive all of these covers are going to be amazing, because Jorn is incredible at doing covers.
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I don't look at what Jorn did/is doing as a cash in. I think it's cool he was able to throw it together so quickly. He is one of the few who I think can honestly get away with it, especially since he has always been so heavily influenced by Dio.
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Old 05-24-2010, 11:43 AM
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By the way, from what I understand, this is NOT a rushed, thrown together cash-grab, and has actually been in the works for months. It just happens that the announcement came after Dio's passing (perhaps the release date and announcement was bumped up by the label, classless an idea as that was). I guess the contract for this was signed at the same time as Spirit Black.

Maiden33 is right, Jorn is amazing at doing covers. Can't wait to hear this.
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NPJ certainly deserves a mention, and I think he's made more of a career out of exclusively cloning Dio's vocal-isms - but I think Jorn is the closest I've ever seen another singer come to matching his general charisma and pure vocal capacity. Jorn's voice is sort of a Dio-meets-Coverdale, but in recent years I've definitely thought he's been shifting towards more of a Dio-derived sound. Yeah, not to mention Jorn does like the best covers I've ever heard - especially of Dio material.
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By the way, from what I understand, this is NOT a rushed, thrown together cash-grab, and has actually been in the works for months. It just happens that the announcement came after Dio's passing (perhaps the release date and announcement was bumped up by the label, classless an idea as that was). I guess the contract for this was signed at the same time as Spirit Black.
If this is true, then when was Song for Ronnie James written? It actually disturbs me more if Jorn wrote this while Dio was still alive and was just waiting for Dio to pass before releasing it.
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If this is true, then when was Song for Ronnie James written? It actually disturbs me more if Jorn wrote this while Dio was still alive and was just waiting for Dio to pass before releasing it.
I doubt he was. This thought crossed my mind too. Maybe it was intended as more of a "get well, we're all with you" tribute song. Which would be why the lyrics don't mention him dying or missing him etc.

It wouldn't surprise me if some of the cover songs on the album were recorded long ago and just unreleased.
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This is where you not being familiar with Jorn comes into play. Dio is his biggest vocal influence, and that's been downright obvious to any fan of his work over the years. Also, he's no stranger to covers and cover albums whatsoever at this point - 3 or 4 of these tracks he had already covered before. Also, Jorn has been doing nothing but moving up the radar over the past couple of years, he's getting to the point where he doesn't need a desperate cash-grab to have people care about him. He's one of the most revered vocalists in "underground" modern metal at this point.

Also - I am 100% positive all of these covers are going to be amazing, because Jorn is incredible at doing covers.
You make some good points here. I don't doubt the man's intentions aren't genuine at all. It's just for people who aren't familiar with his work it can come off that way and I understand why certian people might feel like that. But since Dio was such a huge influence on him as everyone is saying than I understand why he's doing it. Still, if he had waited until after Ronnie's funeral it might not have been recieved with criticism at all.

Since Dio is such a big influence on him it does have me intrested in checking out Jorn's material. So, he might gain some new fans out of this which may not be a bad thing for him if he's as good as you guys are saying.
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You make some good points here. I don't doubt the man's intentions aren't genuine at all. It's just for people who aren't familiar with his work it can come off that way and I understand why certian people might feel like that. But since Dio was such a huge influence on him as everyone is saying than I understand why he's doing it. Still, if he had waited until after Ronnie's funeral it might not have been recieved with criticism at all.

Since Dio is such a big influence on him it does have me intrested in checking out Jorn's material. So, he might gain some new fans out of this which may not be a bad thing for him if he's as good as you guys are saying.
All you need to know how good Jorn is is to listen to the Avantasia song "The Scarecrow". Half the vocals are Tobias Sammet (Edguy), but the other half are Jorn and perfectly display why he is incredible. Also, I feel his Dio-isms are probably at an all-time high there.
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I just got Spirit Black from Jorn on a torrent site. It was the first thing that popped up so I just decided to go with that. I'm on the thrid song now and i'm liking this a lot so far
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