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Old 05-11-2010, 09:52 AM
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Three sweeps in the second round. How fun. Sad to see the Jazz and especially the Spurs go, but optimistic about the possibility of a Suns-Cavs final.
Reason # 1,453 why the NHL playoffs are better: Not one sweep so far
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Old 05-11-2010, 09:54 AM
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Reason # 1,453 why the NHL playoffs are better: Not one sweep so far
It's definitely not usually like this, but yeah, some of these matchups turned out to be more one-sided than anyone really expected.

And when it's your team doing the sweeping, all's well. It's just that the Spurs and Cavs haven't gotten in on that action.
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It was disappointing to see the Cavs quit with around a minute and thirty left in the game. Tough to say if James stays Cleveland (since they have yet to get him the help he needs) however he typically does what most analysts don't see coming. Everyone is saying the Knicks so I wouldn't surprised if goes to the Nets with his buddy Jay-Z and their extremely wealthy Russian owner.

I don't know about Chicago because he will be compared to Jordan more than he already is today (which is rather stupid because he is more like Magic than Jordan).

The one thing that will infuriate me though is if the Lakers somehow got him then I would never watch the NBA again. I think it will probably depend on who gets John Wall and where the other free agents land.

If the Orlando Magic get him LOOK OUT! James, Lewis and Howard on the same team just give them the title.
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Old 05-18-2010, 05:47 AM
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The only teams that can afford Lebron are teams that are years away from a championship, and Lebron is nearly 27 and in his prime. There's no way he'd wait another 3 or 4 years to contend, even if it was in NYC.

If he was to leave, the only logical choice would be Chicago, as they already have a fine center and a big time pg. However, going there would mean forever living in the shadow of MJ, something I don't think LBJ would like.

Miami maybe, but having two superstars means sharing too much, particularly since Wade plays a very similar game to Bron.

If he stays in Cleveland, what now? They have an obviously inept coach, and a bunch of players who can't play second option. Mo Williams is obviously not that guy, and Jamison is lol. Shaq is way past it. They need to deal away two or more of these players and hope some veteran hungry for a ring is willing to take a paycut (Joe Johnson, Bosh, Amare if he falls short again this year). Unfortunately for Cleveland, odds of that happening are minimal, since all three of those guys will want the max. Realistically, I think the Cavs might have a decent shot at Steve Nash if the Suns get owned in the WCF, which might be enough to put them over the edge and at least get the ball into someone else's hands.
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The only teams that can afford Lebron are teams that are years away from a championship, and Lebron is nearly 27 and in his prime. There's no way he'd wait another 3 or 4 years to contend, even if it was in NYC.

If he was to leave, the only logical choice would be Chicago, as they already have a fine center and a big time pg. However, going there would mean forever living in the shadow of MJ, something I don't think LBJ would like.

Miami maybe, but having two superstars means sharing too much, particularly since Wade plays a very similar game to Bron.

If he stays in Cleveland, what now? They have an obviously inept coach, and a bunch of players who can't play second option. Mo Williams is obviously not that guy, and Jamison is lol. Shaq is way past it. They need to deal away two or more of these players and hope some veteran hungry for a ring is willing to take a paycut (Joe Johnson, Bosh, Amare if he falls short again this year). Unfortunately for Cleveland, odds of that happening are minimal, since all three of those guys will want the max. Realistically, I think the Cavs might have a decent shot at Steve Nash if the Suns get owned in the WCF, which might be enough to put them over the edge and at least get the ball into someone else's hands.
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(Oh relax you fuckers, and save your Chris Hansen jokes...I'm just screwing around. )

Seriously, though - you make a lot of good points. Obviously, the subject is very close to my heart - maybe even a little too close (I'm still stunned by that ridiculous pair of games that ended the Cavs' season early last week).

Call it instinct, but something tells me Lebron would only want to move East if he did leave Cleveland, and obviously the Nets and Knicks are the top two teams in the rumor mill right now. Both of those have to come a long way before they can truly contend for a ring, and that's obviously priority number one for LBJ. I'm more concerned about the Nets, though, because with their newly-established salary cap space, they could build that team up in a hurry. Let's not forget that Wade and Bosh are in the Free Agent market this summer, too.

I doubt Lebron wants to go to Chicago, for the same reasons you mentioned, and I don't see him going to Orlando as someone else had mentioned. Their team chemistry wouldn't work for him at all. Lebron wants to be the sole leader of the team, and Howard is obviously fast becoming that figure. If LBJ goes to Florida at all (which I don't think is likely), it'd be to join Wade in Miami. They'd be hard-pressed to afford both James and Wade, but they could always make moves I suppose. Not likely, though.

I think what's going to happen is that Lebron is going to try to use the leverage of his possible exit to get the Cavs to make some even better moves than they made last year. They really did make some good acquisitions, and they were definitely a good value for the money, but they really didn't pan out as a whole. Shaq was OK, but we did just as well with him out of the lineup as we did with him in. That tells me that Varejao and Z are still pretty effective, but if we had a real true center like Howard or Noah I would feel better. Unfortunately I hate them both, but they're not really an option anyway, thankfully.

I'd like to see us get Wade to come to Cleveland, actually. I'm not a huge fan of Wade's ego, but the man can play the fucking game. That or Steve Nash. Personally, I think Wade would work out better, because he'd fit well within the team chemistry that LBJ and company have established over the years, wheras Nash seems a little too serious for that (although I could certainly be wrong...I don't really know the guy's personality that well). If not Wade or Nash, then Stoudemire or Bosh. Obviously the Stoudemire deal has to work out just right, so that's not a slam dunk by any means (pun somewhat intended).

We also need to get rid of Shaq, probably - although I hate to say it, because I was really hoping the big suminabitch would be more of a factor than he actually was. His attitude has been awesome, and he has fit in with the team's chemistry exceptionally well. Letting him go would free up cap money, though. Then we need to see who else on the list of recent acquisitions can be traded off if they weren't effective. I don't know that much about those contracts to know who that would be.

Lastly, I think Mike Brown needs to go, and I think the Cavs will do that. I love his style and I like him as a person, but he is a big reason why we aren't playing Orlando right now. The choice of his replacement is really key, though. It has to be somebody who knows what he is doing, but can let Lebron do Lebron and be the on-court leader of the team. As much as I hate Stan Van Gundy, he might be a good choice. I think he could fit the first part of that requirement, but I'm not sure about the second. He seems like a control freak to me. At any rate, coaching is a big part of why we lost this year, unfortunately, so a good change there is absolutely essential.

Sorry about the mammoth post. I just had to vent my spleen a little.
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I don't understand why people think that Nash would leave Phoenix - he had the chance to two years ago, and signed an extension, and he credits the Suns training staff with extending his career. Also, I don't see Phoenix trading him.

Shaq is washed up, and he completely slows Cleveland down - that team plays best when they go small and when they run - Shaq completely ruins that. They were something like 21-4 this year when he didnt play? Also, look at the improvement in the Suns this year without him.

As to LeBron, its either Chicago or Cleveland, those are the only two teams that can pay him, and still make sense from a basketball perspective (IMO).

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I don't understand why people think that Nash would leave Phoenix - he had the chance to two years ago, and signed an extension, and he credits the Suns training staff with extending his career. Also, I don't see Phoenix trading him.

Shaq is washed up, and he completely slows Cleveland down - that team plays best when they go small and when they run - Shaq completely ruins that. They were something like 21-4 this year when he didnt play? Also, look at the improvement in the Suns this year without him.

As to LeBron, its either Chicago or Cleveland, those are the only two teams that can pay him, and still make sense from a basketball perspective (IMO).
I don't necessarily think Nash would leave - his name just came up in the conversation and I was simply playing the "what if" game.

I certainly hope you're right about the only viable choices being Chicago or Cleveland, because the likelihood of Chicago, in my mind at least, is pretty low.
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I don't necessarily think Nash would leave - his name just came up in the conversation and I was simply playing the "what if" game.

I certainly hope you're right about the only viable choices being Chicago or Cleveland, because the likelihood of Chicago, in my mind at least, is pretty low.
Gotcha on Nash, was wondering where that came from, as I hadnt heard his name previously with LeBrons.

Bill Simmons on espn.com wrote a real good column on Friday about all this

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...4&sportCat=nba
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