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Old 09-08-2009, 08:45 AM
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As simple as it sounds, no matter what kind of music it is, be it metal or 70's AM gold or Flamenco Guitar, it just has to connect with me.

I love metal, but there's a ton of it that doesn't connect with me. Way more of it doesn't connect with me than does. I love the aggression of metal, but aggression alone isn't enough.

I love Flamenco guitar music, but not just by anyone. There are certain performers that just "do it" for me.

there are no set rules for songs or artists that I like.
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Old 09-08-2009, 09:19 AM
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But on many levels, how the music makes you feel is a big part of what decides what one chooses to listen to.

One thing I think is necessary is to define what music is. Granted, it is a series of tones structured together, but it's obviously more that that. and you musicians might have a better way to put it.

For me, music is the sound of emotion. And from there, we get how music makes us feel. From classical orchestra to the bubble gum pop they play on the radio, music is designed to elicit an emotional response.
A lofty premise, but some music is just good stuff. I mean, what emotional response can you possibly have to a lot death metal other than murderous intent? People just like it, they're not about to go out and beat someone with a spade.

Or take AC/DC. Their songs are about absolutely nothing. Meaningless drivel. Their music isn't even complex or interesting. They're just good rock songs. I don't feel any emotional attachment to a single one of their songs. I just like listening to them.

The only common emotion you can possibly have for all the music you enjoy is simply that. Enjoyment. And I don't think that really counts.
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Old 09-08-2009, 09:43 AM
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Enjoyment. And I don't think that really counts.
I would say it does count If you don't enjoy it, what's the point?
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Old 09-08-2009, 09:50 AM
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A lofty premise, but some music is just good stuff. I mean, what emotional response can you possibly have to a lot death metal other than murderous intent? People just like it, they're not about to go out and beat someone with a spade.

Or take AC/DC. Their songs are about absolutely nothing. Meaningless drivel. Their music isn't even complex or interesting. They're just good rock songs. I don't feel any emotional attachment to a single one of their songs. I just like listening to them.

The only common emotion you can possibly have for all the music you enjoy is simply that. Enjoyment. And I don't think that really counts.
If you enjoy something, it makes you happy. That's certainly emotion.
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Old 09-08-2009, 10:03 AM
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This was an awesome attempt at a very deep topic, but in the end, I think it's just too broad of a question - or maybe the answer is so intangible that no one can really put it into words enough to satisfy the need I think we all have on some level for a "concrete" answer.

I mean, as specific as some of my metal interests of late seem to be (I'm very heavy into instrumental post-metal, for instance...also sludge / doom is very big for me right now), I really have some of the broadest musical tastes of almost anybody I know. Not that I'm trying to sound all enlightened or something pretentious like that, I'm just saying I like a whole lot of music, and I find it very hard to find a common thread to it all.

For example, I went through a rap phase in college, but only very specific groups would do it for me (Public Enemy, N.W.A., Geto Boys, Digital Underground, Ice Cube, Ice-T, etc.). I like a lot of what some people might call "pop" (White Stripes, LCD Soundsystem, Ghostland Observatory, Killers, etc.). I was definitely a fan of grunge (Nirvana, Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, etc.). I love electronic music as well, but again, only specific artists will do (Crystal Method, Prodigy, Chemical Brothers, Paul Oakenfold, Daft Punk, Orbital, etc.). I also have a history steeped in Alternative / Progressive (Depeche Mode, Cure, Pixies, etc.) and Industrial (Ministry, Front 242, Skinny Puppy, Nitzer Ebb). Hell - I'll even put on some Enya if I'm in the mood (sometimes a brotha needs to just chill ).

What connects all these? Damned if I know. If you can figure it out, post away and I will likely be amazed. The point is, I seem to have very specific "likes" and "dislikes", yet almost anything will work for me if it makes me feel something on an emotional level - which I think you said was against the rules as far as a response, so I guess I'm stuck.

I just know that the music I "love", I would go to the ends of the Earth to defend. Just ask DethMaiden about Giant Squid.

That's enough from me,
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Old 09-08-2009, 10:27 AM
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I like music that I can force onto others, and call them gay if they don't follow.
Nice. I also like that innate smug sense of superiority you feel cuz your in the .01% of western civilization who even knows that "_____" has a new album out and it roolz teh n00b




What about authenticity? Is there even such a thing with regards to music? What makes something have more, shall we say, "musical integrity" than something else?
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Old 09-08-2009, 10:52 AM
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I don't know what you mean by "musical integrity." Do you mean like on the business side of things, in terms of how they promote themselves and their philosophy? Stuff like that won't make me like a band I otherwise wouldn't like, but it does increase my favorable opinion of a band I already like. Take Fugazi, for example. One of the most influential punk rock bands of all time, and yet they never charged more than $5 for a show, never sold any merch, and produced their own records on their own label their entire career.
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Old 09-08-2009, 10:57 AM
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I don't know what you mean by "musical integrity." Do you mean like on the business side of things, in terms of how they promote themselves and their philosophy? Stuff like that won't make me like a band I otherwise wouldn't like, but it does increase my favorable opinion of a band I already like. Take Fugazi, for example. One of the most influential punk rock bands of all time, and yet they never charged more than $5 for a show, never sold any merch, and produced their own records on their own label their entire career.
Thats tight, kinda what I'm getting at I think. I don't even know. I'm just trying to have a discussion on music that isn't "Whose better?" or something.
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Old 09-08-2009, 11:10 AM
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I like music that I can force onto others, and call them gay if they don't follow.
Which is exactly what kills any type of culture. Smug alpha male faggot behavior. I mean it's one thing to chastise someone for ignorance, but if you're going to attack someone just because they don't like it, you might as well be the poster child for everything that is wrong with underground.
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Old 09-08-2009, 11:17 AM
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You'd think I'd have some big profound answer to this but I don't. Honestly it's just if it sounds good to my ears, I'll listen to it. All the things like packaging, artwork, public persona, lyrics, and strength of live performance are nice bonuses but at the end of the day 99% of the music-listening I do is private, not on stage, and I just want to hear things that sound good to me.
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