After reading this, I really have to think otherwise about Vortex and Mustis being out. That was a very sophisticated statement, and I looked at that neutrally, I had no bias into reading that (frankly, before I was sort of leaning on V/M's side). I can't belive some of the things he said. After reading that stuff I'm not surprised they weren't kicked out before. Something interesting he pointed out as well was that hal of the new album is done, and I really want to hear if it does indeed "retain the elements they are known for", because if it did, ouch to V/M. We'll see, I guess.