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Old 02-04-2014, 11:21 AM
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Yeah, I'm wrestling with them. I love Supporting Caste, and I always told myself it was on the borderline of metal. But according to Metal-Archives' criteria for metal, Propagandhi don't fit because they don't consistently use metal riffs.

What do you guys think of their rules? Obviously the definition of metal is amorphous, but if you had to draw the line, where would it be?

It baffles me on first blush that BTBAM, Protest the Hero, Converge, and Miss May I are not on metal-archives. Its a shit standard, but they have the biggest database.
Metal Archives rules just reek of elitism and pretentiousness. Their site is a great resource when you're looking up a band you've never heard of or looking for information about a band, but any site that refuses to list BTBAM because they're not metal but still lists Rush is still pretty terrible.

The lines between genres are becoming more and more blurred nowadays. If I had to define a line for metal, it'd have to be at a case by case basis. A band like Propagandhi straddles the line so much between metal, hardcore, and punk sometimes so it's hard to set exact boundaries. Metal Archives certainly makes that a bit harder sometimes...
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The only band off the top of my head I don't agree with not being allowed into Metal-Archives is BTBAM. Everything else I'm okay with.
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[quote=swboyd;557577]Metal Archives rules just reek of elitism and pretentiousness. QUOTE]

The Sports Thread on their forum didn't have a single mention of the Super Bowl in it.... must be too mainstream.
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Everyone's going to laugh at this but Job for A Cowboy. Their last couple of records have been heavily political.
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Metal Archives rules just reek of elitism and pretentiousness. Their site is a great resource when you're looking up a band you've never heard of or looking for information about a band, but any site that refuses to list BTBAM because they're not metal but still lists Rush is still pretty terrible.

The lines between genres are becoming more and more blurred nowadays. If I had to define a line for metal, it'd have to be at a case by case basis. A band like Propagandhi straddles the line so much between metal, hardcore, and punk sometimes so it's hard to set exact boundaries. Metal Archives certainly makes that a bit harder sometimes...
It's easy to accuse them of elitism when one band is rejected and another is accepted, but when working on a case by case basis with multiple moderators there will obviously be some inconsistency. On the forum there is a thread regarding band submissions and they give everything a listen and an explanation. Sometimes they will add or remove bands based on the posts there. Of course I don't agree with all of their decisions, but they are pretty fair in their reasoning.
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Carnivore definitely had some political material. Also, Gwar's War Party album and some of their older stuff
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Maybe it was too obvious, but I'm surprised Burzum wasn't mentioned immediately. Varg is always very open about his beliefs in nationalism/odalism in his blogs and interviews and was involved with the Heathen Front for a time.
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Maybe it was too obvious, but I'm surprised Burzum wasn't mentioned immediately. Varg is always very open about his beliefs in nationalism/odalism in his blogs and interviews and was involved with the Heathen Front for a time.
But Burzum doesn't really have lyrics that speak directly to political themes...I mean, I guess there's nationalism in there, but its at least veiled in mysticism and what have you.


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