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Old 01-20-2014, 04:04 PM
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but they have a cover fee at the door to help at the very least the touring bands for making their way out here.
Absolutely, so play longer. There's no excuse for short sets when people are paying money to see you, I don't care how short your songs are. Just play more of them.
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I like when grind/pv bands play 20-30 minute sets. Short, intense sets that don't drag on too long. 7 minutes is pretty pathetic and anything under 20 is kinda lazy. But if a grind band played for an hour it would feel too long, at least for me.
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Absolutely, so play longer. There's no excuse for short sets when people are paying money to see you, I don't care how short your songs are. Just play more of them.
If you play too long you run into two problems.

1) overkilling the crowd, a short intense hardcore / powerviolence set is amazing. 20 minute of pure chaos. Anything more and everyone gets tired.

2) you run out of songs sometimes. ACxDC for example could play pretty much their entire catalog in less than 20 minutes I think.
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Old 01-21-2014, 03:40 AM
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So the solution is a bill of 15 bands?
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Old 01-21-2014, 07:29 AM
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So the solution is a bill of 15 bands?
No it's just a short show.

Most hardcore shows I've been to are only like 3 hours long.

The headliner plays 30 minutes.

Everyone else plays around 25 or so.
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Old 01-21-2014, 07:46 AM
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I'm glad I don't like hardcore. Fuck paying actual money for someone to turn up and do 30 minutes.
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I'm glad I don't like hardcore. Fuck paying actual money for someone to turn up and do 30 minutes.
Context of the show is different though. I rarely see hardcore shows despite being a fan, but the standard is different depending on the genre/kind of show.
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Old 01-21-2014, 08:27 AM
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I'm glad I don't like hardcore. Fuck paying actual money for someone to turn up and do 30 minutes.
It's expected though, a headlining hardcore set is 45 minutes MAX with the majority being 30-40 minutes. That amount of time gives them the change to do a nonstop energy show without people getting bored, tired, etc. Ever bigger crossover bands like Hatebreeds headliner is only around 1 Hour 10 minutes or so and that is usually 20 something songs. Plus hardcore shows aren't pricy. Unless its a fest or a weird one off show a average hardcore show that is running on a tour is within $10-$15 (sometimes not even that much).

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Context of the show is different though. I rarely see hardcore shows despite being a fan, but the standard is different depending on the genre/kind of show.
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