Trouble in Slayer Land - Page 7

hellawaits77ny · #61 03-01-2013, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by 300%_Density

At this point a Slayer with 3/4 of the band would be a moral victory IMO

Yeah, I was OK w/ Holt playing while Hanneman "recovered" from his "spider bite". I could even accept Hanneman being gone, as 3 outta 4 ain't bad. Granted, any new material would suck without Jeff, but I'd still enjoy a couple songs I'd imagine, and would still see them live.

But if Dave or Jeff don't come back, I won't buy their next album, nor will I travel to see them live. If they're playing around the corner, maybe. I just hate Kerry King so much I don't want him to have 1 cent of my $.

IrritatedTrout · #62 03-01-2013, 10:18 AM

I've only gotten to see Slayer live once even though I've been a fan for years but I'm very glad it was with all 4 real members.

Spiner202 · #63 03-01-2013, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by hellawaits77ny

But if Dave or Jeff don't come back, I won't buy their next album, nor will I travel to see them live. If they're playing around the corner, maybe. I just hate Kerry King so much I don't want him to have 1 cent of my $.

I know it really sucks, but I think Jeff not coming back is all on Jeff, and not Kerry. It seems obvious that Kerry wants him to come back so Slayer can move on. I want him to come back mainly because Slayer has always been those three guys: Jeff, Kerry, and Tom. Gary Holt is a great fill-in, but he needs to go back to Exodus and get a new album out.

As for Dave, he was great for what he did on those early albums, but he is the least essential part of Slayer to me. I think this is less one-sided than it looks, but in any case, I'd rather have Kerry in Slayer than Dave.

TonyD · #64 03-02-2013, 11:39 AM

If anyone would like to hear what Nicko has to say on the matter:

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"Most of the issues that pro musicians have sooner or later in time boils down to the royalty check or performance royalties," Nicko said.

"I'm sad to hear that that has happened, but, you know, when you find out and look at something and say, 'Could you explain this to me, why we're not getting what we should according to these numbers?' and if somebody turns around and says, 'Fucking shut your face or you're fired,' that therefore it tells you there's an alarm bell going off. Without knowing all of the ins and outs of it, you can't pre-judge it.

"But yeah, the Bill Ward story, I understood that Sharon Osbourne got her fangs into that one. It's beyond me — I mean, Bill Ward was the original freaking band member, you know? It just doesn't make sense to me. If I was entitled to more, I don't really want to know; I'm happy!

"You have to ask yourself this: How did Dave Lombardo get the information that led to this problem, is what I'd like to know. Who gave him the financials, if he wasn't on top of it with an accountant already?

"I'm sad because Dave is so much a part of that band; he's so identifiable. There's great drummers out there, but Dave Lombardo is a master with it, and Dave is... to me, he is SLAYER with Kerry [King, guitar] and the guys! I think Kerry really may have overreacted and might be regretting it. I hope that that's the case and they can sit down and sort it out."

rjturtle9 · #65 03-02-2013, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Spiner202

As for Dave, he was great for what he did on those early albums, but he is the least essential part of Slayer to me. I think this is less one-sided than it looks, but in any case, I'd rather have Kerry in Slayer than Dave.

You're a crazy dude.

JRA · #66 03-02-2013, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TonyD

If anyone would like to hear what Nicko has to say on the matter:

Spot on, as usual. Jeff is the MVP of Slayer IMO. He just ran out of gas.

MetalIsArt · #67 03-03-2013, 08:32 AM

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You're a crazy dude.

He has a small point actually. Dave Lomardo is a great drummer, but I only say this because I've listened a lot to his work with other bands, especially Grip Inc. & Testament.

Not much challenge in Slayer material.

El Gordo · #68 03-03-2013, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MetalIsArt

He has a small point actually. Dave Lomardo is a great drummer, but I only say this because I've listened a lot to his work with other bands, especially Grip Inc. & Testament.

Not much challenge in Slayer material.

So... are you saying that Dave's work on The Gathering or the Grip Inc. albums is more challenging/impressive than anything he's done in Slayer?

MetalIsArt · #69 03-04-2013, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by El Gordo

So... are you saying that Dave's work on The Gathering or the Grip Inc. albums is more challenging/impressive than anything he's done in Slayer?

Yes.

MPF · #70 03-04-2013, 09:57 AM

I'd say that about Fantomas, and the live bootleg I have of Dave Lombardo, Mike Patton and John Zorn 9the most fucked up music I currently own). But Dave's drums in Slayer are not THAT challenging and hard. If anything, it's more about Endurance. once you learn to play thrash and at Dave's Speed, playing his stuff in Slayer is not that hard, although at the time he started, very innovative. But that said, his work in Slayer is some of his most impressive work.