The Official "Pro Wrestling" Thread - Page 33

XDoomsayerX · #**321** 11-07-2012, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by John The Drummer

To quickly jump off the couple big topics here... I'd like to bring up the CM Punk vs John Cena match where Punk won the title and no one knew if he was coming back or not.

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THAT MATCH WAS TERRIBLE. Ok, the idea of it was amazing. No one really knew if Punk would return to the WWE the following night, and when he ran out of the arena through the crowd, that made it even more enjoyable, but the match sucked.

Cena has no in ring skill. I need to rewatch it, but wasn't Cena just on the ground the entire time? It was such a snooze fest. I felt so bad for CM Punk, he has talent, he has tons of in ring skill, and he had to carry John Cena through the match. So many laying moments, so many "ok... now what?" moments. There was practically nothing entertaining in that match, other than the uncertainty of who would walk out with the title around the waist.

Ok... had to vent, continue

I remember it being solid minus a few botches. I mean I aint a Cena fan but he can put on a match given the right wrestler, his matches with Shawn Micheals were great.

Sinister_Chalupa666 · #**322** 11-07-2012, 10:22 PM

Didn't know this place had a wrestling thread.

Sanitarium78 · #**323** 11-11-2012, 07:04 AM

Since Raven was brought up on the WWE 13 thread, I decided to post some of my thoughts about him:

Raven is easliy the most under used talent i've ever seen in all my years of watching the WWF/E. How they just let him waste away and do absoultely nothing for most of his run there is the biggest mystery to me. He could've been the modern day Jake The Snake Roberts. He had the character, charisma and most importantly he knows the in ring psychology of pro wrestling as good as anybody. In a lot of ways that's more important than anything else. His promos in ECW were always materful works of art and his promos in WCW were very solid as well. He wasn't the greatest in the ring but he knew what to do and how/when to do it.

Raven had a lot to offer the WWE, how they didn't see it i'll never know. I'm not saying he should've been a multi time world champ or anything but he certainly could've been a good upper midcard guy with a few good IC or US title reigns. Most importantly, the guy could've taught the young up and comers a lot about the buisness and ring psychology.

John The Drummer · #**324** 11-11-2012, 07:35 AM

CM Punk and Raven could have a pretty awesome feud, I would say.

Sanitarium78 · #**325** 11-11-2012, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by John The Drummer

CM Punk and Raven could have a pretty awesome feud, I would say.

They did in Ring Of Honor after Raven left WWE. I wasn't watching ROH at that time but i've heard nothing but good things about the feud.

adamclark52 · #**326** 11-11-2012, 08:33 AM

I've heard Raven can be a bit of a prick so maybe his attitude held him back? He wouldn't kiss ass, which gets you nowhere in the WWE. Or WCW. The story of how he left WCW is epic.

XDoomsayerX · #**327** 11-11-2012, 11:56 AM

Wade Barret needs a push, that is all.

dcmetal108 · #**328** 11-11-2012, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by adamclark52

I've heard Raven can be a bit of a prick so maybe his attitude held him back? He wouldn't kiss ass, which gets you nowhere in the WWE. Or WCW. The story of how he left WCW is epic.

Yeah i heard he can be a prick but he's a nice guy to fans now. I can see him monthly if I wanted to since he runs the promotion with Billy Corgan here in Chicago. Really need to meet Raven.

John The Drummer · #**329** 11-11-2012, 05:14 PM

3MB is such a terrible rip off of the BWO

adamclark52 · #**330** 11-11-2012, 05:27 PM

I think another thing that always held Raven back in the WWE was the fact that the WWE always buried someone who became a star in another organization, save a few. Why sign someone if you're just going to bury them is beyond me. With a guy like Raven they can't even say they tried and the WWE fans didn't warm up to him. He was tossed into the Hardcore division within a few months of joining and that was just a pit of people they had nothing better for. I remember after Wrestlemania X7 they made it look like they were going to have him go after the IC title but that lasted only a few weeks, then he got tossed into the Alliance (a death sentence) and that was really it. The roster got so huge then that he was just lost in the shuffle.