Jon Oliva's Pain -- Tampa, FL -- June 16th, 2012

[Maiden33]

WAY too tired to post a review now. I will, just not til at least tomorrow night...

Intro: Visions
01 Gutter Ballet (Savatage)
02 Edge of Thorns (Savatage)
03 Death Rides a Black Horse
04 Sirens (Savatage)
05 Festival
06 Don't Talk to Me (Doctor Butcher)
07 Power of the Night (Savatage)
08 Tonight He Grins Again (Savatage)
09 Walk Upon the Water
10 Ghost in the Ruins (Savatage)
11 24 Hours Ago (Savatage)
12 Beyond the Doors of the Dark (Savatage)
13 Strange Wings (Savatage)
14 Legions (Savatage)
15 The Price You Pay (Savatage)
16 Devastation (Savatage)
17 White Witch (Savatage)
18 Prelude to Madness (Savatage)
19 Hall of the Mountain King (Savatage)
Encore:
20 Heal My Soul (Savatage)
21 Believe (Savatage)

[MPF]

Woah...

[MetalIsArt]

That is maginificent.

[The Ghost at Number One]

Originally Posted by Maiden33

08 Tonight He Grins Again (Savatage)
10 Ghost in the Ruins (Savatage)

Yes.

[Onioner]

Now I am all for seeing so many Savatage songs live, but if he is fine with pretty much playing a full Savatage set, why not do a Savatage tour with Chris Caffery and Zak Stevens? I mean I love all those songs, but Zak singing them would sound so much better.

[sarsip]

Power of the Night and Legions.............

[ravenheart]

One Doctor Butcher song? Seriously? Lame. So much for celebrating its anniversary. I hope this was just because it was the DVD show and he's going to put more in for the rest of the tour.

[Sanitarium78]

You gotta love Jon's whole "there will be no Savatage reunion" mantra and then he ends up playing a show with his band where the 98 percent of the set is Savatage songs. I think he enjoys fuckin with everybody.

[ravenheart]

Originally Posted by Sanitarium78

You gotta love Jon's whole "there will be no Savatage reunion" mantra and then he ends up playing a show with his band where the 98 percent of the set is Savatage songs. I think he enjoys fuckin with everybody.

Been saying that for years. I've seen JOP twice, and both times he did about three actual JOP songs and the rest was Savatage. He keeps telling Savatage fans to stop living in the past. Yeah, well, your first, Jon.

With this tour, it's not exactly a surprise though, seeing as it's the Hall of the Mountain King anniversary tour. My gripe is that it was also meant to be an anniversary tour for the Doctor Butcher album, and he's only doing one song from it.

[Maiden33]

Originally Posted by ravenheart

Been saying that for years. I've seen JOP twice, and both times he did about three actual JOP songs and the rest was Savatage. He keeps telling Savatage fans to stop living in the past. Yeah, well, your first, Jon.

With this tour, it's not exactly a surprise though, seeing as it's the Hall of the Mountain King anniversary tour. My gripe is that it was also meant to be an anniversary tour for the Doctor Butcher album, and he's only doing one song from it.

As far as the Doctor Butcher thing goes: Blame Paul O'Neill. This WAS originally supposed to be more about that, when it was assumed that Chris Caffery was going to be joining him to play guitar on those songs, since that was Jon and Chris's project. But Paul basically told him that he wasn't allowed to do it, and then after Chris left the picture, Jon decided to just scrap most of it anyway. Frankly I can't blame him, most people I know (including most people there last night) definitely weren't really particularly excited for it and would've rather heard more Savatage or JOP songs instead.

Also, Jon is only telling people to not live in the past regarding the LINEUP of Savatage, not the music. Jon's been pretty up front about the fact that to him, JOP is the continuation of his musical career, which essentially is just Savatage. He loves those songs and wants to keep playing them, and people want to keep hearing them. All he wants is for people to stop asking him over and over when he's going to reunite with whatever random people someone else associates as "Savatage" and just let him do his thing.