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Old 05-21-2012, 01:23 AM
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Helmed by guitarist Iommi, Black Sabbath persevered through a succession of lineup changes that sometimes did and sometimes didn’t include Butler and Ward. Several of Black Sabbath’s post-Osbourne albums - especially Heaven and Hell (1980), Mob Rules (1981) and Headless Cross (1989) - are highly regarded by hardcore fans. But when all was said and done, the classic lineup could not be bested.
The classic lineup made amazing albums, DUH, but not all of them are equally great.

And no matter how good the concert was, this isn't the classic reunion. BTW, if you like it or not: many albums have been released under the Sabbath moniker without Ozzy, so they should've been on the site. Geezer played on some of them too, and Bill was on Born Again.
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Old 05-21-2012, 01:34 AM
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Geezer played on some of them too, and Bill was on Born Again.
He was on Heaven & Hell too.
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I was intending on going. I'm not going now because of the lack of Bill, but also because of the exorbitant ticket prices for Lollapalooza.
The latter is far more important than the former, and I guarantee no matter how much you argue to the contrary, it's the main reason. Although, the price wouldn't be that bad if you were going for loads of the bands. But yeah, for one band a festival ticket price is never worth it.
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"Dear Sabbath fans and musicians,

I have read Geezer’s statement of May 19 titled Heavy Heart. Out of respect for the Birmingham gig, I wanted to wait 24 hours before releasing this statement. There are some points he brought up which I want to respond to.

1) I had indeed notified Ozzy, Tony and Geezer, well before my first public statement, that I was having contractual difficulties.

2) I came out into a public forum to be accountable to the fans primarily, and to say at a public level there’s a problem. The band members stopped talking and corresponding with me some time ago, with the exception of a nice letter from Tony on my birthday. Prior to that, Geezer and I were corresponding, but that stopped abruptly in late February after I emailed a specific question to him.

3) In my statement of May 15, I clearly stated I would play Birmingham for free. That was not a problem – charity or otherwise.

4) My Download fee was not an extravagant amount. Originally, when Download was part of a full tour, I had asked for a decent fee. More recently, as we were negotiating just Download/Birmingham and Lollapalooza, I told my attorney that I would accept the proposed small Download fee, but there were other parts of the offer that were unsatisfactory.

I will continue to be honest and respectful towards the band and our fans. I will also confront any untruths about me, and any fault finding missions aimed at me that come to my attention.

I hope the band and the fans had a good gig in Brum."
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The latter is far more important than the former, and I guarantee no matter how much you argue to the contrary, it's the main reason. Although, the price wouldn't be that bad if you were going for loads of the bands. But yeah, for one band a festival ticket price is never worth it.
It is mostly the price, not gonna argue that, but Bill not being there pushed me from leaning towards going to definitely not.
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Old 05-21-2012, 02:32 AM
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He was on Heaven & Hell too.
I know, but you get my point.
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Old 05-21-2012, 05:27 AM
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It is mostly the price, not gonna argue that, but Bill not being there pushed me from leaning towards going to definitely not.
Maybe you should give Bill the money you were going to spend on the ticket. He clearly needs some financial aid
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Maybe you should give Bill the money you were going to spend on the ticket. He clearly needs some financial aid
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