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Old 08-31-2011, 05:37 PM
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All in good time, youngling.
Right on!

I met Jon back in November 2008. Hell of a nice guy. He let me in on the SPV bankruptcy a year a and a half before it happened, the main reason why the Something Wicked Boxset never came out.
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Old 09-01-2011, 12:29 AM
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Right on!

I met Jon back in November 2008. Hell of a nice guy. He let me in on the SPV bankruptcy a year a and a half before it happened, the main reason why the Something Wicked Boxset never came out.
...and here I was, still wondering what the hell ever happened with that.
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Old 09-01-2011, 12:48 AM
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...and here I was, still wondering what the hell ever happened with that.
Yeah Jon Told me about it after the show. So I of course posted it online. and somehow the ProgPower message board got it (I don't have an account there, since I could never afford to go) and they were bad mouthing me calling me a liar and I'm full a shit, and just an asshole trying to start rumors.

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Old 09-01-2011, 01:31 AM
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Erm, the Something Wicked box set? You mean Box of The Wicked, released last year?
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Old 09-01-2011, 02:03 AM
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Erm, the Something Wicked box set? You mean Box of The Wicked, released last year?
NOPE! Similar though.

I mean the albums Framing Armageddon and The Glorious Burned being retracked by Barlow and a live DVD.

They kept the Live DVD part, but had to scrap the retracking with Barlow.
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Old 09-01-2011, 02:09 AM
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Oh yeah, I remember that being talked about now. Always thought it was a horrible idea. Glad they didn't do it.

Jon rates Framing Armageddon above The Crucible of Man, so I can see why he'd want to do that.
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Didn't Barlow actually track vocals for TGB before Ripper came into the fold? I'm pretty sure I remember reading that he did, and Jon scrapped them because he didn't like them.
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Oh yeah, I remember that being talked about now. Always thought it was a horrible idea. Glad they didn't do it.

Jon rates Framing Armageddon above The Crucible of Man, so I can see why he'd want to do that.
Well that is very understandable. The Crucible Of Man had 2-3 good songs on it. Framing Armageddon was fucking incredible.

I would have loved to hear Barlow sing The Glorious Burden since the album was written for his voice.

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The story is that Barlow wasn't feeling Iced Earth anymore and wanted to venture out to become a cop. His heart wasn't in the vocals, Both of them agreed on that. so that's why they were scrapped after Barlow's departure. Hence Ripper coming into the fold.

Barlow was in full force during The Crucible Of Man (despite the album) so hearing him on TGB, would have been great in my eyes.
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since the album was written for his voice.
Jon says that's not true. I asked him that regarding the songs on 'Dystopia'. He says he never writes for a voice, he writes songs how they need to be, and gets the singer to adapt to the songs.
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Jon says that's not true. I asked him that regarding the songs on 'Dystopia'. He says he never writes for a voice, he writes songs how they need to be, and gets the singer to adapt to the songs.
Interesting. So does that mean he re-wrote some of The Glorious Burden then?

That makes me interested in Dystopia. I wanna see how Stu Block fits in Jon's mind.
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