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Old 05-01-2011, 08:04 AM
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O:M... filler...
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Old 05-01-2011, 04:45 PM
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Even though I've known about them since 05/06, I've only recently been listening to their "deeper cuts" (getting away from the greatest hits album.) and I must say that The Warning is close to a masterpiece and easily their best work. After that the only ones that I like are Rage for Order ( Very good, but it has too many soundeffects) the EP, (Easily the most metal thing they've done) Operation: Mindcrime (Memorable, but too much filler) and A good bit of Promised land. Best I can and the title track are the only tracks I like from Empire. Tribe and I'm American are decent songs (Although the latter has awful lyrics.) I think it interesting that they can bash America on alot of their albums but then they do a whole album supporting it. I read that the new album apparently has a dance element to it. (Geoff Tate said that!) I would have to listen to a track or two to decide whether or not to pick that one up. I would like to see them live once, but it would dependent on what they play.
America bashing?
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Old 05-01-2011, 04:47 PM
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O:M... filler...
I know, right?

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Old 05-02-2011, 03:20 AM
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O:M... filler...
I don't mean the main tracks. All those connection pieces, like I remember now and Waiting for 22.
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Old 05-02-2011, 03:32 AM
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America bashing?
"Got an Ak-47 for his best friend,
Business.... the American way."
Empire
"I used to think that only America's way, way right,
But now the holy dollar rules everybody's lives
Gotta make a million doesn't matter who dies."
Revolution Calling
"I gotta have it, fonna drink the high life,
I'll buy a new suit, black skinny necktie.
I'll mingle with elite and Imitate
and they'll never even get it til I hit em
I've got no fear cause I've weathered the breakdown
San Quetin to the edge of the Big Town
I'm a man of the people
In the home of the brave, and I'm no man's slave.
"Because I'm free,
I deserve everything I get.
I'm American
I'm American.

I'm American.

Not exactly Patriotic, is it?
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Old 05-02-2011, 06:02 AM
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So what you're saying is you're either patriotic or you hate America?

What's so bad about having an opinion? The thing about patriotism is that if you just walk around thinking you're #1, you're #1 - then you really have no incentive to better yourself, because fuck it, you're the best.

The lyrics you posted are, frankly, mild. You mean to tell me the mindset expressed in "I'm American" isn't reflected on a regular basis by our media and our celebrities? Consumerism is a defining feature of America and we can argue all day about whether that's good or bad, but just because someone argues about it doesn't mean they're bashing America.

As for the "Revolution Calling" lyrics, give me a fucking break. Have you been alive these last few years? Were you there for the bailouts? Were you there for the oil spill? Were you there for the Goldman Sachs e-mails?

As for "Empire" I would remind you that America has an incredibly high crime rate for a developed nation, and our violent crime rate pretty much takes the cake. So yeah, that's pretty depressing, but puffing up your chest and saying, "America, fuck yeah!" isn't exactly going to fix it.

In other words, if those lyrics are your idea of bashing then you have set that bar comically low.
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Old 05-02-2011, 07:09 AM
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I don't mean the main tracks. All those connection pieces, like I remember now and Waiting for 22.
You mean those pieces which are all of 1 or 2 minutes long each and if they were part of the preceding or succeeding track then you wouldn't even notice them? Those pieces? Right
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Old 05-02-2011, 07:27 AM
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I don't mean the main tracks. All those connection pieces, like I remember now and Waiting for 22.
Have you ever heard "I Remember Now?" at a live show? I wouldn't call it filler.

One of the best parts about O:M live is hearing everybody shout, "YOU BASTARD!"
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Old 05-02-2011, 10:07 AM
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Just my opinions people. You don't have to like them.
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I must say that The Warning is close to a masterpiece and easily their best work.
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