Linkin Park -- Montreal, Quebec -- February 7th, 2011

[ratcat90]

Originally Posted by bobbie solo

if u dont think there is a combo of metal and hip hop in slipkn ots music, part. their first record, then you either know nothing about hip hop or are deaf. Shit, Corey straight raps his verses on several songs, part. Spit It Out....nevermind all the samples, turntablism and other elements Sid brings to their sound. now, u may hate all that, but it doesnt change their sound.

Also, i dont think a hip hop element HAS to be present for a band to be nu-metalish (spineshank comes to mind, among others), but if it IS there, then theyre almost certainly nu-metal.

Like a said Slipknot has very few songs that can actually be categorized as having Hip-Hop elements. Im sorry, Turntables does not mean that a band is Hip-Hop at all. When i think of the hip-hop elments in metal/hardcore bands i think of Linkin Park, POD, Hollywood Undead, Ill Nino, etc. Just becasue Slipknot has fast paced songs does not mean that they are hip-hop influenced. Look at All Hope is Gone and The Subliminal Verses.... Nothing.
So you're saying that you would put Rage Against the Machine and Faith No More into a hip-hop category? Wrong my friend

[AnthG]

Originally Posted by bobbie solo

if u dont think there is a combo of metal and hip hop in slipkn ots music, part. their first record, then you either know nothing about hip hop or are deaf. Shit, Corey straight raps his verses on several songs, part. Spit It Out....nevermind all the samples, turntablism and other elements Sid brings to their sound. now, u may hate all that, but it doesnt change their sound.

Also, i dont think a hip hop element HAS to be present for a band to be nu-metalish (spineshank comes to mind, among others), but if it IS there, then theyre almost certainly nu-metal.

Mudvayne's another band that comes to mind that doesn't incoporate a lot of hip hop but are/were pretty Numetal. Disturbed's first album as well.

[ratcat90]

Originally Posted by AnthG

Mudvayne's another band that comes to mind that doesn't incoporate a lot of hip hop but are/were pretty Numetal. Disturbed's first album as well.

Im tired of these arguments that lead to nowhere. It is all Heavy Metal.
Linkin Park has had a huge and one of the biggest influences on the Nu-Metal/Rapcore scene. Slipknot's 1st album can be included into the Nu-Metal scene, everything else they've done is not included. Mudvayne's 1st album can be included. Disturbeds 1st album is questionable. Since all of these bands have moved on to a different and heavier sound, the Nu-Metal scene has somewhat faded. Keep in mind just because their is a hip-hop element in some bands, does not categorize them as "Nu-Metal." Take Rage and Faith No More for example. These are 2 bands that have had a huge influence on this music, but are completely not NU METAL! Problem solved.

[bobbie solo]

of course rage has a strong hip hop element to their music. what makes u say they dont? hes rapping on many many of their songs, and their basslines and drum patterns are hip hop influenced too, especially the first two records. i would say RATM helped lead to alot of nu-metal bands, same as Faith No More, but arent nu-metal themselves.

[BlashyrkhMR101]

Linkin Park's set looks almost 2 hours long yet Pendulum get about a half hour? Something's just not right with that.