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Old 09-14-2010, 12:30 PM
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if he did Diary of a Madman and Over the Mountain as well as most of this set i would definitely be there
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Old 09-14-2010, 12:57 PM
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What tuning do they play Into The Void in these days? Still C#?
Nope, they play it in D, along with the rest of the set. Honestly, all of his songs sound great in that tuning, so I don't get what JRA is saying.

But shit, he hasn't played Flying High Again in quite some time.
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Old 09-14-2010, 01:41 PM
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Nope, they play it in D, along with the rest of the set. Honestly, all of his songs sound great in that tuning, so I don't get what JRA is saying.

But shit, he hasn't played Flying High Again in quite some time.

Fuck you you're wrong. One of my biggest pet peeves in music is when artists play songs in the wrong key, be it higher or lower.
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Fuck you you're wrong. One of my biggest pet peeves in music is when artists play songs in the wrong key, be it higher or lower.
Do you honestly think Ozzy can sing those songs in E tuning nowadays?

Also, Shot in the Dark was originally recorded in Eb
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Old 09-14-2010, 02:22 PM
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If you can't sing the songs in the proper key, get the fuck off the stage.
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If you can't sing the songs in the proper key, get the fuck off the stage.
And who the fuck are you to say what key is "proper" or not. He's the artist, he can do whatever the fuck he wants. No need to get all butthurt over something that you can't control, no matter how much you bitch.
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Old 09-14-2010, 02:54 PM
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The keys that the songs are played on the albums are the proper keys.
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If you can't sing the songs in the proper key, get the fuck off the stage.
Ok, how old are you?
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Old 09-14-2010, 03:25 PM
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Voices change over time there's no way Ozzy or most singers can sing a song in the same key they did almost 40 years ago. It's just not humanly possible. The male voice goes through 3 or 4 significant changes during a persons life. You can't change that, it's just a natural thing.

Bands need to change keys for songs over time so it's easier for a singer to do them and they don't blow out their voice. Can you imagine if Rush still did Temples Of Syrinx in the same key live as on the original recording? Geddy would've lost his voice years ago.

It's the same with Ozzy. The key needs to be changed so he's still able to perform every night.
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Old 09-14-2010, 03:31 PM
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The problem with that logic is the riffs suffer, and they suffer horribly. When you hear a riff and love a riff it becomes part of your DNA. Speed changes don't bother me so much and it can actually become beneficial to the song (see Unleashed In The East for a primary example). Key and melody changes however, are unignorable. Melody and key is the essence of song, and the problem with key shifting is that it hits some truly atrocious notes and the songs become unlistenable. 2112 sounds like a fucking mess when it's downtuned. Same with The Mob Rules. I was actually happy I missed that song when I went to see Heaven & Hell because that riff sounds like its being raped. and it's not just tuning down. I was watching a 78 Sabbath show and rather than having guitar techs doing their job and tuning separate guitars for the appropriate songs, they just played everything in standard. Children of The Grave, my all time favorite Sabbath song, was unlistenable in this key.

Also, if voices go through so many goddamn changes, then why the hell was Rob Halford able to nail every single note on the Judas Priest songs on Live Insurrection, when he was fucking 50?

Like I said, either you play the song in the right key, or you stop touring, it's as simple is that (or in Geddy Lee's case, he can just sing that song in a pirate voice ) Honestly, I could care less how singers sound in old age, but when you fuck with the riffs, that's capital punishment grounds.
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