Heaven And Hell -- London, UK -- November 10th, 2007

[Human_Metal]

How can Lamb of God have more play time than Iced Earth?

Anyway, even if it's far from a dream Iced Earth set list i would still have enjoyed it. Framing Armageddon has really grown on me and to open with Motivations of Man/ Setian Massacre is awsome!

[ravenheart]

Originally Posted by Human_Metal

How can Lamb of God have more play time than Iced Earth?

Anyway, even if it's far from a dream Iced Earth set list i would still have enjoyed it. Framing Armageddon has really grown on me and to open with Motivations of Man/ Setian Massacre is awsome!

Because they're way more popular in this country than Iced Earth.

That said, the crowd at an H&H gig is not a Lamb of God crowd.

[ravenheart]

Originally Posted by sneakbobcat

You got fucked over with the setlists. We got better in Glasgow, I can't remember them exactly.

Nothing wrong with the LoG setlist. And H&H are playing exactly the same set everywhere.

[Div]

Iced Earth
19:00 - 19:30

Motivation of Man >
Setian Massacre
Burning Times >
Declaration Day
My Own Savior
Charge To Keep
Ten Thousand Strong

what a huge crock of shit. They shouldve played dantes inferno followed by travel in stygian. /set

although ripper would probably do a shitty job singing those.

[SomewhereInTime72]

That Iced Earth set is an abomination.

[ravenheart]

It's good that they're showing faith in their new album. Even though most people don't rate it, they should believe in it themselves, otherwise it's not worth making albums.

However, as I said, when you've only got 30 minutes, you don't flood the set with new songs. You do that when you've got a headlining slot.

Dante's Inferno, whoever said that, would be a stupid idea. Just as you don't play 20 minutes of new songs in a 30 minute set, you also don't play a single song that's going to take up half your time on stage.

[wroed]

Agree with those setlists Andy, except Lamb Of God opened with Hourglass. I actually also wrote down Ashes Of The Wake too as they sing that repeatedly in Hourglass.

Here's our photos and review:

http://www.rockersdigest.com/default...ct=2&artid=208

[Div]

Originally Posted by ravenheart

It's good that they're showing faith in their new album. Even though most people don't rate it, they should believe in it themselves, otherwise it's not worth making albums.

However, as I said, when you've only got 30 minutes, you don't flood the set with new songs. You do that when you've got a headlining slot.

Dante's Inferno, whoever said that, would be a stupid idea. Just as you don't play 20 minutes of new songs in a 30 minute set, you also don't play a single song that's going to take up half your time on stage.

I dunno man, I still think my set proposal is better than what they actually played.

[ravenheart]

Originally Posted by wroed

Agree with those setlists Andy, except Lamb Of God opened with Hourglass. I actually also wrote down Ashes Of The Wake too as they sing that repeatedly in Hourglass.

Here's our photos and review:

http://www.rockersdigest.com/default...ct=2&artid=208

Good spot man, cheers.

My review will follow. I've spent today giving W.A.S.P. a roasting

[Random]

The reason Iced Earth played this set was to generate as much interest in the band as possible.
The songs are shorter and simpler than a lot of their other stuff (such as Dante's Inferno, Travel in Stygian etc) and that makes it easier to attract new fans, as the songs are more accesible.
The average Lamb of God fan is 14-18 years old, and the sad truth is that they tend not to appreciate complex songs (no disrespect to L.O.G., but their song's aren't particually complex; they all tend to follow the verse-chrous, verse-chorus, middle bit, chorus; structure) so to play 10 minute songs when you're trying to break a new country (which Iced Earth are in the UK - and they've done a damn good job with this tour too!) isn't a wise move.
That's why they played simpler songs. Setian Massacre, A charge to Keep, Declaration Day all have a catchy chrous, but by playing some heavier (yet still simple, to-the-point) songs such as Ten Thousand Strong, My Own Saviour and Burning Times they're appealing to the "let's-just-shout-everything" crowd such as the typical L.O.G. fan.
Think about it, it's a wise move! And it's worked too. I was at the Newcastle, Manchester and Wembley shows (and am backstage at Bournemouth this sunday!) and the number of new fans they've picked up from this tour is over-whelming. And because of the hightened fan base they're making for themselves, a headline tour is WAY more likely for next year, where they'll then play all their longer songs and classics.

Funny though, I was chatting away with brent Smedley (I.E. drummer) after the Manchester show for a good 30 minutes, and we joked that their set should've been Dante's Inferno and High Water Mark
Next year, he was saying - after 'Framing Armageddon's' follow-up album - that they're gonna be touring the States aswell as doing a bunch of festivals, but they're hoping to get another European tour, and on THAT tour they're gonna play some headline shows in the UK - or at least that's the plan.
And that probably wouldn't happen if it wasn't for this tour and mass-appealing setlist.

Hope that's shone some light on the setlist for many of you.