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Old 12-20-2006, 04:21 PM
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Rob speaking out about the "true meaning of Xmas" being peace, love, and remembering Jsus. When I think of Xmas and this particular religion, Rob Halford isn't exactly the spokeman who comes to mind.
i try to get my family members to remember that stuff and im an athiest

you really shouldn't be that suprised
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Old 12-20-2006, 04:32 PM
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The message is a good one, regardless the specific messenger. Is it really that bad?

Bad wasn't my point, just strange coming from this source.
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Old 12-20-2006, 04:49 PM
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I think it's quite lovely. Perhaps he isn't a Christian, but I agree with him in every point he made.
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I think, in America mostly, theres two types of Christmases. One if the religious holiday, and the other is more like a second birthday.


And is Halford trying to say he's a Christian, or is he just talking about the holiday in general?
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I think, in America mostly, theres two types of Christmases. One if the religious holiday, and the other is more like a second birthday.


And is Halford trying to say he's a Christian, or is he just talking about the holiday in general?
I think there are three types, the two you named, and the one which Halford is referring to: basically a time of brotherhood, love, and people generally getting along. See: Old City Bar by Trans-Siberian Orchestra.
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I think there are three types, the two you named, and the one which Halford is referring to: basically a time of brotherhood, love, and people generally getting along in celebration of Christ's Birth. .
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Old 12-20-2006, 07:37 PM
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wow . . . that post-change pretty much outlines everything i hate about serious christians . . . thankyou
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Old 12-20-2006, 07:42 PM
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a time of brotherhood, love, and people generally getting along
that is christmas


and ChildrenofSodom: Christmas is not christ's birthday . . . last i heard histrians put it around april . . . Christmas is celebrated at the time it is because early christians wanted to make the new religion more accessable to the pagans that inhabited most of germanic europe during that time period. December 25th was a pagan winter feast and only later became that celebration of christ's birth that we know today

so, christmas is number one "a time of brotherhood, love, and people generally getting along" as DethMaiden put it, second a celebration of the birth/life of Jesus Christ, and third a commercialized mess that wrecks any real gains in spiritual well-being made by the first two
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wow . . . that post-change pretty much outlines everything i hate about serious christians . . . thankyou
As an athiest, why do you have anything to do wtih CHRISTmas? Unless you're watching Bud ads or Hallmark commercials and that's what you choose to base your holidays on, the Christ part of Christmas is extremely relevant.
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As an athiest, why do you have anything to do wtih CHRISTmas? Unless you're watching Bud ads or Hallmark commercials and that's what you choose to base your holidays on, the Christ part of Christmas is extremely relevant.
maybe thats how it started, but that really doesnt matter any more.

whatever . . . im not getting in another one of these religious debates . . . i dont want you arguing your point and then banning me before i can say anything
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