Originally Posted by mastodon421
I like their studio stuff, but they are just a snore live. Rutan shreds, but he really half-asses the vocals and looks like he would rather be anywhere else but on stage
I don't agree with this. When I saw them with Origin, it was badass. They didn't move that much, but Erik had a huge stage presence and the songs hit you like bricks thrown at your face. Maybe you just caught them on a wrong night: I had the same feeling when I saw them open for Cannibal Corpse and Hatebreed, it was kinda boring.