Originally Posted by jd091
Hmm. I guess by the technical definition of metalcore, yes, they would be. Along with every other crossover band known to man. But I think it's easier for all of us if we just consider them "crossover", and associate the vanilla term "metalcore" with the likes of Converge, Botch, Coalesce, early Norma Jean, etc.
I actually never thought of them as metalcore until The Colonel pointed it out on here at some point in the last year. Call it whatever you want, but it's still metalcore. Old hardcore sounds way different than a lot of the mainstream hardcore that is out today, but we still refer to it as hardcore. Just because the mainstream ruins it over time doesn't mean we shouldn't be ashamed to still refer to the founders by that name.