well said mike. pile-ons, singalongs, two-stepping...its all good stuff in the right setting. certainly makes more sense than the subhuman bro-pushing/senseless running into each other i see between awkward metalheads at some shows. I know those kids dont like karate stuff, but their stuff isnt much better. And if youre at a big show, those pits where all the mongoloids are just running into each other is VERY dangerous.