I saw them last summer also and they were good. It was a free show and there was a lot of sitting middle aged fartfanugens there, just wanting the hits. At DTE however, everyone in the pavillion was standing (besides those couple of lazy fat fartfanugens), and everyone was really enjoying themselves, and the solos and muscianship was just phenomenal. And they always change their setlist, and that along with venue, can be a big difference. With that said, it was epic. They also had to top Over The Rainbow, who were also quite stellar.