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ADD
03-03-2009, 10:28 PM
For every Cold Lake, Load, and Risk of the world, there are some albums that are despised or frowned upon by a bands general fanbase but that some diehards happen to love. Go for it.

Black Sabbath - Born Again- this is the one that made me think of this topic while I was just listening to it. I think this is a great record not necessarily because of the songs or the performances, but because it just sounds so genuinely twisted unlike any other Sabbath album, and no record I've ever heard really captures quite the same strung-out/coked-up vibe as this one. The production actually makes the album sound like its gonna come apart at the seams and just snap at any moment, like a staggering paranoid burnout walking along the railroad tracks contemplating jumping in front of the train with a wild eyed half-grin on his face. At least thats what comes into my mind when listening to this album. And Ian Gillan's vocals are fantastically ridiculous, not to mention Iommi's radical attempt at cock rock riffage.

Iron Maiden - The X Factor- even though obviously this album is out of place to mention here, to 99% of the rest of the metal world that exists outside the niche of diehard Maiden fanboys this album is teh sux. It happens to be one of their best in my opinion however, and obviously Steve Harris is down with that so how can you disagree? This is for sure the most honest record they made since the debut, and the songs are really great. Sure the production isn't fantastic, but it suits the grey melancholy vibe.

Thin Lizzy - Renegade- no one really gives a shit about 80's Thin Lizzy, but while Chinatown and Thunder and Lightning definitely have their weak points, I think this is a horribly underrated and overlooked album in the Lizzy catalogue. The best job they did of incorporating 80's rock (ie keyboards) into their bluesy twin-axe attack, and it also features some of their best songwriting in my opinion. Sure that little jazz number is completely out of place, but the rest of the album smokes.

Overkill - I Hear Black- this was the first Overkill album I heard so that definitely makes a difference, but it sure didn't deter me from checking them out further, even though I came to find this record is quite the anomaly in their catalogue. Sure it was the early 90's and they kinda wanted to be Pantera, but they injected the right amount of Sabbathy doom into their muscle metal and the result is this beastly record. Some seriously heavy riffs to go along with Blitz's always excellent vocals makes this one of my favorite Overkill albums, and that's saying something.

DethMaiden
03-04-2009, 08:25 AM
The X-Factor is very good, and I find it interesting that most anyone who was not on the IMBB or here that I've encountered in metal absolutely hates it. It does it's fucking job.

No one seems to like Queensryche's Tribe very much but it just fucking oozes with vibe. It's so goddamn chill, and that's definitely what they were going for. It's way better than the album they put out a few years later that saw them trying to sound metal again and failing. I really hope the new one is kind of chill or it's going to suck.

Megadeth's So Far, So Good, So What! is their least revered "golden era" record, yet the best album of their career.

I'm sure I might think of others later.

mankvill
03-04-2009, 08:32 AM
I dunno about whole albums, but I really, really like "Fuel" and "I Disappear" from Metallica.

ADD
03-04-2009, 09:11 AM
No one seems to like Queensryche's Tribe very much but it just fucking oozes with vibe. It's so goddamn chill, and that's definitely what they were going for. It's way better than the album they put out a few years later that saw them trying to sound metal again and failing. I really hope the new one is kind of chill or it's going to suck.



Definitely agree with this.

SirLardsAlot
03-04-2009, 09:17 AM
Point of Entry :party::party:

Maiden33
03-04-2009, 09:55 AM
-Motley Crue's self-titled album with John Carabi on vocals. I don't like Motley Crue in general, but I think the self-titled disk kicks ass.
-I think the first Jon Oliva's Pain album is by far the best, even though the 2nd and 3rd have gotten far better critical and fan reception.
-Dream Theater's "When Dream and Day Unite" is in the top half of their discography.
-Nocturnal Rites' "The 8th Sin" was bashed by about 65% of their fan-base. I really loved it, and think it was one of the most enjoyable albums of 2007.
-I think a lot of Helloween's "Pink Bubbles Go Ape" is quite good, and "The Dark Ride" is easily the best Andi Deris-era album.
-I really like Anthrax with John Bush, which doesn't seem to be a typical point of view. Strangely, for reasons I can't explain, I actually really enjoy "We've Come For You All".

SomewhereInTime72
03-04-2009, 09:55 AM
The X Factor is the obvious choice, it's such a fucking excellent album that gets zero credit.

I think modern King Crimson is also usually ignored and dismissed as shitty and/or irrelevant, but honestly The Power To Believe and THRAK are two of their best albums.

edit: When Dream and Day Unite is the only decent Dream Theater album.

overkiller
03-04-2009, 10:01 AM
In Flames - Reroute to Remain. It has a couple really bad tracks, but for the most part, that album is pure class.

ChildrenofSodom
03-04-2009, 10:59 AM
In Flames - Reroute to Remain. It has a couple really bad tracks, but for the most part, that album is pure class.

I would agree to that.

I actually like alot of stuff on Reroute, Soundtrack, and Come Clarity, but the majority of people, on here or otherwise, hate those albums.

I liked The War Within by Shadows Fall, which no one else here likes. I also enjoyed The System Has Failed, A Twist in the Myth, and Glorious Burden, all of which have been hated on.

JRA
03-04-2009, 11:28 AM
In Flames - Reroute to Remain. It has a couple really bad tracks,


Cloud Connected and Trigger I'm assuming?

SomewhereInTime72
03-04-2009, 11:57 AM
In Flames - Reroute to Remain. It has a couple really bad tracks, but for the most part, that album is pure class.

Is this a troll? :eyes:

overkiller
03-04-2009, 12:18 PM
Is this a troll? :eyes:

You'll have to figure that out for yourself. :D

ADD
03-04-2009, 01:09 PM
I think modern King Crimson is also usually ignored and dismissed as shitty and/or irrelevant, but honestly The Power To Believe and THRAK are two of their best albums.



I have to admit that I actually dig their 80's pseudo synth pop records Three Of A Perfect Pair and Beat which are usually hated on and that I always see for $2 in the used vinyl section at the record stores :D

SomewhereInTime72
03-04-2009, 01:24 PM
I have to admit that I actually dig their 80's pseudo synth pop records Three Of A Perfect Pair and Beat which are usually hated on and that I always see for $2 in the used vinyl section at the record stores :D

Three of A Perfect Pair is hit or miss for me, some awesome songs, others are ehhh, resulting in one of the bands most iffy albums... Beat on the other hand is 100% awesome, such a wildly different sound than their 70's albums.

Fe Maiden
03-04-2009, 01:29 PM
Black Sabbath - Born Again- this is the one that made me think of this topic while I was just listening to it. I think this is a great record not necessarily because of the songs or the performances, but because it just sounds so genuinely twisted unlike any other Sabbath album, and no record I've ever heard really captures quite the same strung-out/coked-up vibe as this one. The production actually makes the album sound like its gonna come apart at the seams and just snap at any moment, like a staggering paranoid burnout walking along the railroad tracks contemplating jumping in front of the train with a wild eyed half-grin on his face. At least thats what comes into my mind when listening to this album. And Ian Gillan's vocals are fantastically ridiculous, not to mention Iommi's radical attempt at cock rock riffage.

Iron Maiden - The X Factor- even though obviously this album is out of place to mention here, to 99% of the rest of the metal world that exists outside the niche of diehard Maiden fanboys this album is teh sux. It happens to be one of their best in my opinion however, and obviously Steve Harris is down with that so how can you disagree? This is for sure the most honest record they made since the debut, and the songs are really great. Sure the production isn't fantastic, but it suits the grey melancholy vibe.
I agree about these 2. I always felt Born Again was a terrific album but not so many agree with me. Power Window by Rush comes to mind here also. Not many liked all the synths in that album.

ravenheart
03-05-2009, 12:16 AM
No one seems to like Queensryche's Tribe very much but it just fucking oozes with vibe. It's so goddamn chill, and that's definitely what they were going for. It's way better than the album they put out a few years later that saw them trying to sound metal again and failing. I really hope the new one is kind of chill or it's going to suck.

Amen.

Others for me:

Megadeth - The World Needs A Hero & Risk
Metallica - St Anger
W.A.S.P. - KFD
Black Sabbath - Forbidden
Motley Crue - Motley Crue
Dio - Lock Up The Wolves, Strange Highways & Magica

Maiden33
03-05-2009, 05:38 AM
Motley Crue - Motley Crue

:fist:

Metallica - St Anger

:eyes:

SomewhereInTime72
03-05-2009, 06:58 AM
No one seems to like Queensryche's Tribe very much but it just fucking oozes with vibe. It's so goddamn chill, and that's definitely what they were going for. It's way better than the album they put out a few years later that saw them trying to sound metal again and failing. I really hope the new one is kind of chill or it's going to suck.


http://www.lala.com/song/360569449467837274

New single streaming here, you may have your wish come true after all, it feels nice and toned down. Pretty sweet song, overlong intro aside.

edit: Sounds more like something from Q2K really, but I also really like that album (moreso than Tribe probably).

Derelict
03-06-2009, 09:09 AM
In Flames - Reroute to Remain. It has a couple really bad tracks, but for the most part, that album is pure class.

For some reason, i enjoy this album also - the last in flames album that i enjoyed

JuuKun
03-07-2009, 05:10 PM
Aside from a few mentioned in this thread (Blind Guardian's A Twist In The Myth, the self-titled Motley Crue album)

I know a lot of people didn't like Emperor's Prometheus - The Discipline of Fire & Demise (If you watch the footage from Wacken 06, when Ihsahn asks if the crowd wants to hear something from Prometheus, I swear it atleast SOUNDS like the crowd is yelling "NOO!"), but I thought it was awesome.

I've also seen quite a bit of hate for Dissection - Reinkaos, and Elvenking - The Scythe, and I love both of those.

Oh, and how can I forget: Morgana Lefay - Aberrations of the Mind. I've seen people accuse it of them trying to sound Nu Metal and cater to the mallcore kids...but I just don't hear it...

derangedperson
03-08-2009, 09:09 PM
Exodus--Force Of Habit
Metallica--St. Anger
Queensryche--Q2k

b_halperin
03-20-2009, 02:11 PM
I liked The War Within by Shadows Fall, which no one else here likes.

i like that album

ravenheart
03-20-2009, 03:00 PM
i like that album

Me too.

b_halperin
03-20-2009, 03:26 PM
unlike several people, I enjoyed All Hope is Gone - Slipknot.

ravenheart
03-20-2009, 04:13 PM
unlike several people, I enjoyed All Hope is Gone - Slipknot.

Awesome album.

Maiden33
03-20-2009, 04:35 PM
Awesome album.

No offense to you, but you have to be the only person I've ever met over the age of 25-ish who likes Slipknot.

JRA
03-20-2009, 04:38 PM
No offense to you, but you have to be the only person I've ever met over the age of 25-ish who likes Slipknot.

and Lamb Of God. :D

ravenheart
03-21-2009, 05:54 AM
No offense to you, but you have to be the only person I've ever met over the age of 25-ish who likes Slipknot.

I know a few. But most no one likes the first album. I like the second, but most don't. Love the third and fourth, when they started to move away from simply trying to be heavy and angry. I never saw the point in ruling a band that's popular with the kids out just because it's popular with the kids, you know? Apart from H.I.M. They really do just suck ;)

And Slipknot are incredible live.


I know plenty of people into LoG :D

b_halperin
03-21-2009, 06:55 AM
I know plenty of people into LoG :D

:rocker: