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Bloodcurse
12-04-2008, 02:23 PM
From their "Poets & Madmen World Tour" w/ Fates Warning

Commissar
Surrender
Handful of Rain
The Wake of Magellan
Dead Winter Dead
Edge of Thorns
All That I Bleed
Awaken
Unusual
By the Grace of the Witch
Stange Wings
Morphine Child
Miles Away
He Carves His Stone
Chance
Believe
Temptation Revelation
Gutter Ballet
Power of the Night
Hall of the Mountain King

rjturtle9
12-04-2008, 07:58 PM
i've been listening to this band lately and damn are they sick.

hey Maiden33, u got any suggestions on what to pick up from this band.

Maiden33
12-04-2008, 08:14 PM
i've been listening to this band lately and damn are they sick.

hey Maiden33, u got any suggestions on what to pick up from this band.

Haha, I like the fact that I am the Savatage authority here.

Well it's more of a question of personal preference than anything else.

In my opinion there are four "essential" Savatage albums:
Streets, Edge of Thorns, Handful of Rain, and Gutter Ballet. Regardless of whether you're a fan of the earlier stuff or the later stuff, those albums are must-hear stuff.

What kind of songs have you been listening to?

If you're into the heavy Jon Oliva stuff, Hall of the Mountain King and Power of the Night are the two seminal albums of that stuff. If you're into the more experimental stuff, Streets and Gutter Ballet for sure. If you're into Zak's stuff, all 4 albums are worth checking out. It's a complex beast to tackle because they've released a lot of amazing material throughout 11 studio albums, there's a lot of stuff to get to.
Let me know what you've heard thus far and I'll tell you where I suggest you go.


To Bloodcurse: Were you actually at this show? I'm assuming.

rjturtle9
12-04-2008, 08:24 PM
oh haha well they are your favorite band right.

i've heard Hall of the Mountain King and i really like this song they always play on metal mania. the video is on the streets at night.

and i was at my friends house and he had an album on his itunes and i was listening to that and it was pretty good. so yeah i don't really know haha

Bloodcurse
12-05-2008, 12:38 PM
I was not...a buddy of mine was...I just found out about it the day I posted this haha. If I had known about it, I would have been there for sure!! Savatage are one of my favorite bands of all time.

Maiden33
12-05-2008, 12:55 PM
oh haha well they are your favorite band right.

i've heard Hall of the Mountain King and i really like this song they always play on metal mania. the video is on the streets at night.

and i was at my friends house and he had an album on his itunes and i was listening to that and it was pretty good. so yeah i don't really know haha

Ah alright. Well if you really enjoy the song Hall of the Mountain King, picking up the album of the same name is probably a good call.
The video in question is for the song "Gutter Ballet", title track of their essential 1989 album. If you like that song, you'll at least love the more experimental theatrical stuff with Jon Oliva singing, so Gutter Ballet and Streets are a must.

Check out the video for the song "Edge of Thorns" (Youtube it). If you like that, come back to me for more advice.

Maiden33
12-05-2008, 12:56 PM
I was not...a buddy of mine was...I just found out about it the day I posted this haha. If I had known about it, I would have been there for sure!! Savatage are one of my favorite bands of all time.

Ah alright, I was about to become VERY jealous of you. I was unfortunately just a few years to young to know about Savatage while they were still touring. For that I am eternally saddened.

Electric/Funeral55
12-05-2008, 01:10 PM
Savatage is indeed on the most underated bands of all time. Although the albums that Maiden33 do kick major ass. If you want to go deeper into the vault and can stomach concept albums. Make sure to pick up Dead Winter Dead and The Wake of Magellan. You will not be sorry and even though I am also pissed off at the fact that I missed out on seeing Savatage years ago. I was lucky enough to meet Alex Skolnik who was in Savatage for one album and speaking of said album. Make sure to also pick up Handful of Rain. Plus I also have my Savatage shirt to be thankful for. tehehehe

dimmudan
12-05-2008, 04:12 PM
Haven't posted before but I read this site every day.

If you like Savatage with Jon Oliva then definitely check out Hall of the Mountain King and Gutter Ballet. To me the highpoints of the Zak era are Wake of Magellan and Edge of Thorns.

Streets is a great album but is an acquired taste in my opinion because it is a bit cheesy but give it a chance as I, too, believe it was a high point for the band.

I had the pleasure of being in my teens when they played opening for Testament with Pantera as the opener (Cowboys from Hell tour before anyone knew who they were).

Savatage was excellent and sadly I never got to see them again so I am glad I was there.:blaze:

rjturtle9
12-05-2008, 07:21 PM
Ah alright. Well if you really enjoy the song Hall of the Mountain King, picking up the album of the same name is probably a good call.
The video in question is for the song "Gutter Ballet", title track of their essential 1989 album. If you like that song, you'll at least love the more experimental theatrical stuff with Jon Oliva singing, so Gutter Ballet and Streets are a must.

Check out the video for the song "Edge of Thorns" (Youtube it). If you like that, come back to me for more advice.

it was ok. not into the vocals for that song.

well yeah i'll look into those albums as soon as i get paid cause i'm dead broke right now...

es156
12-05-2008, 08:46 PM
Savatage and Fates Warning? How in the world did I miss that tour??

:mad:

Maiden33
12-05-2008, 10:09 PM
Savatage and Fates Warning? How in the world did I miss that tour??

:mad:

Well, it was Fates Warning touring for Disconnected, probably their worst album.

Maiden33
12-05-2008, 10:16 PM
Savatage is indeed on the most underated bands of all time. Although the albums that Maiden33 do kick major ass. If you want to go deeper into the vault and can stomach concept albums. Make sure to pick up Dead Winter Dead and The Wake of Magellan. You will not be sorry and even though I am also pissed off at the fact that I missed out on seeing Savatage years ago. I was lucky enough to meet Alex Skolnik who was in Savatage for one album and speaking of said album. Make sure to also pick up Handful of Rain. Plus I also have my Savatage shirt to be thankful for. tehehehe

Wise words.
To be honest, I really enjoy every Savatage album. Some are signifigantly better than others, but I get enjoyment from parts of every album they ever did.
If I had to rank, I'd say I view their discography like this:
Streets > Edge of Thorns > Handful of Rain > Dead Winter Dead = The Wake of Magellan = Gutter Ballet > Poets and Madmen > Hall of the Mountain King > Power of the Night > Fight For the Rock = Sirens

I've never met Alex Skolnick, but I've met Jon Oliva, Zak Stevens, Chris Caffery, and Jeff Plate, all more than once except for Plate. I couldn't have been happier with how nicely they treated me. Jon truly treats his friends like family. When I met them I didn't feel like: "OMG I'm meeting Jon Oliva". I was at first, but then I was overcome with this genuine niceness that made me feel like I was talking to someone who I'd known for longer than just a few moments, probably through the deep emotional connection of so much of Jon's music.

I too am now fortunate enough to have a Savatage shirt. I was able to get one of those Criss Oliva guitar graphic shirts off of Ebay for a pretty penny. I'm very happy to have it.

And I truely believe they are the most underated, underappreciate, and ultimate cult band of all-time. They mean the world to their fans but to everyone else they're nobodies.

WE NEED A REUNION NOW!

es156
12-05-2008, 10:25 PM
Well, it was Fates Warning touring for Disconnected, probably their worst album.

Disconnected is far from my favorite FW CD, but I do like it. And that must have been a great show. Gotta kick myself for missing that tour.

Maiden33
12-05-2008, 10:26 PM
Disconnected is far from my favorite FW CD, but I do like it. And that must have been a great show. Gotta kick myself for missing that tour.

I really enjoy "One", but aside from that the majority of the album does practically nothing for me. For me Fates Warning's all about their middle career, ie. Perfect Symmery, Parallels, and Inside Out.

es156
12-05-2008, 10:31 PM
For me Fates Warning's all about their middle career, ie. Perfect Symmery, Parallels, and Inside Out.

That is mainly true for me as well, but I love FWX. Give it another chance sometime.