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Butcher of Birth
09-29-2008, 02:04 PM
Only two bands this time. The Iced Earth Set List was like all the rest. Nothing new, the crowd was equally into both bands, which is awesome because I love Into Eternity. All the old school fans with their jean jackets and Iced Earth/Iron Maiden shirts were diggin' them hard! The whole crowd was chanting and loving it. Stu was sick and saying thank you for being so forgiven of him and his illness, but the funny part, he had less mess up's then Matt.

Into Eternity:
Diagnosis Terminal
Beginning of the End
Severe Emotional Distress
Time Immemorial
Splintered Visions
Timeless Winter

Iced Earth:
Intro: In Sacred Flames
1.Behold the Wicked Child
2.Motivation of Man
3.Setian Massacre
4.Burning Times
5.Declaration Day
6.Vengeance is Mine
7.Ten Thousand Strong (Matt tried to hold the note... Failed, Coughed, and Walked Away)
8.Stormrider
9.Watching Over Me
10.I Walk Alone
11.Come What May
12.Dracula
13.Hold at All Costs
14.High Water Mark
Encore: (It was really just a 30 second break... not even a encore...)
15.Melancholy
16.My Own Savior
(Matt "This is an old song, you may even know some of the words... it's the name of this band... Help me out... ICED-MOTHER-::crowd FUCKING EARTH!!::"
17.Iced Earth

Matt was having problem's all night with the songs with high-flying vocals. The Ripper Songs killed him, he would try and hit the notes, but they were so out of his range he would max out his voice and NO SOUND would even come out of him. He was coughing a lot too, which as a Singer myself, I know that means he didn't have enough breath or the proper range for that note.

Spiral_Slave
09-29-2008, 02:11 PM
I was there as well. Besides Barlow sounding like crap a lot of the show, Brent completely fucked up both choruses on " Hold At All Costs " and didn't stop the song at the right time. Jon was visibly glaring and yelling at him from the drum riser. Also, I don't care for their new guitar player at all. I can safely say they were a lot better when I saw them in '04 with Ripper.

Maiden33
09-29-2008, 02:30 PM
In regards to Barlow:

When I saw Iced Earth in Philly I heard none of these problems, and trust me I could definitely hear Barlow. It's pretty much as simple as this:
In case you didn't know, that show was their 7th or 8th consecutive show. They have played every night since the 21st, and for someone like Barlow who uses so much of his high range, playing 8 consecutive nights when you haven't toured actively in 6 years is absolute MURDER on your voice. Barlow has it, there's absolutely no question about it, he's just seriously under strain from overexertion.

Butcher of Birth
09-29-2008, 02:52 PM
In regards to Barlow:

When I saw Iced Earth in Philly I heard none of these problems, and trust me I could definitely hear Barlow. It's pretty much as simple as this:
In case you didn't know, that show was their 7th or 8th consecutive show. They have played every night since the 21st, and for someone like Barlow who uses so much of his high range, playing 8 consecutive nights when you haven't toured actively in 6 years is absolute MURDER on your voice. Barlow has it, there's absolutely no question about it, he's just seriously under strain from overexertion.

So the recording of the new album and the whole Euro-Tour didn't check him up alittle? I mean nothing against him, I just expected a lot better from him seeing how people go Ape-Shit over his vocals. I love the album verisons, he is great there, live... Eh... Needs work.

Maiden33
09-29-2008, 03:42 PM
So the recording of the new album and the whole Euro-Tour didn't check him up alittle? I mean nothing against him, I just expected a lot better from him seeing how people go Ape-Shit over his vocals. I love the album verisons, he is great there, live... Eh... Needs work.

Have you ever heard Alive in Athens? His vocals are absolutely perfect.

Sinfulsot
09-29-2008, 04:13 PM
Have you ever heard Alive in Athens? His vocals are absolutely perfect.

and his voice was more likely to be in shape from active touring and all the recording performed til that point...

Butcher of Birth
09-29-2008, 06:43 PM
Have you ever heard Alive in Athens? His vocals are absolutely perfect.

Oh I have, maybe he just doesn't have it anymore. That was almost ten years ago.

snowdevil86
09-29-2008, 09:14 PM
Did anyone else think 'Behold the Wicked Child' was a limp-dick opener? It's not necessarily a bad song, but I just didn't think it had anywhere near the amount of energy an Iced Earth show should open with. Also, was it just me or did Barlowe forget the lyrics during 'High Water Mark'? I'm not all that familiar with the Gettysburg epic, so I couldn't tell, and it could've been the drummer's goof-up, but I saw him raise the mic to sing and then stop several times, screaming a little to cover it. I kept getting the impression that he left the stage to go look at the lyrics or something. Anyway, 'I Walk Alone' was a thousand times heavier than the album version, chugging at a slower pace and just giving off a much more evil vibe.

Altmer7989
09-30-2008, 11:49 AM
They need to start playing Divide Devour or Crucify the King off the new album.

DethMaiden
09-30-2008, 12:26 PM
Yeah, honestly not that pissed I missed this anymore. :lol:

Altmer7989
10-01-2008, 06:06 AM
the tour would probably be worth it if into gayternity weren't supporting. iced earth rules but i'd need a decent support band to consider them with such a weak setlist :(

Earthedice
10-01-2008, 08:20 AM
Set list the same, accept no High Water Mark.

This was a tremendous show, but not without its faults. Barlow could barely be heard at times and Jon sang Stormrider while Matt took a break. No big deal for me, as I'm there to hear Jon's rhythms. Jon was tight and precise as usual, but the new guitar player is non existent. First off, he looks like a dumpy little troll, but I could barely hear his leads and I was standing right in front of him. He has absolutely no stage presence, either.

The most disappointing part of the show was my favorite tune Hold at All Costs. When it kicked in it was orgasmic, but just as the intro gallop was going full speed there was a major time screwup and Jon was all over the drummer's ass the rest of the song, yelling and screaming about something. He was pissed for sure, as you can tell this is a song Jon likes to get off on as he should. I think the drums may have been slow but I'm not sure. I do know that it really was one of the biggest screwups I've seen live by a band the stature of IE, and I know Jon the perfectionist will not tolerate it.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a new drummer soon and for that matter, another lead player. That dude just doesn't fit the part of Iced Earth, he looks like a serious puss and comes across like one.

Still, this is one of the heaviest shows I've seen and I liked the set list better than I thought I would. I Walk Alone is turning into an IE anthem and was heavy as hell, maybe the best tune of the night. Behold the Wicked Child was a great opening song because it featured Jon hammering the opening power chord riff that sounded really tight and exemplified metal.

I really could care less about the vocals, I'm a fan of Matt's and he is fine on albums and the Alive in Athens CD. Ripper is an acquaintance from my town of Akron and he is much better live but doesn't carry as much weight when being the embodiment of metal like Matt does.

IE is pretty much the baddest band out there now, this new album is better than Metallica's comeback attempt, Priest, Maiden, Metal Church or anybody else that's put out new stuff from the old schoolers.

Butcher of Birth
10-01-2008, 11:53 AM
the tour would probably be worth it if into gayternity weren't supporting. iced earth rules but i'd need a decent support band to consider them with such a weak setlist :(

Into Gayternity? How in the world could you have any against them? They have fast heavy songs, and play them to prefection Live.

Sinfulsot
10-01-2008, 08:41 PM
Set list the same, accept no High Water Mark.

This was a tremendous show, but not without its faults. Barlow could barely be heard at times and Jon sang Stormrider while Matt took a break. No big deal for me, as I'm there to hear Jon's rhythms. Jon was tight and precise as usual, but the new guitar player is non existent. First off, he looks like a dumpy little troll, but I could barely hear his leads and I was standing right in front of him. He has absolutely no stage presence, either.

The most disappointing part of the show was my favorite tune Hold at All Costs. When it kicked in it was orgasmic, but just as the intro gallop was going full speed there was a major time screwup and Jon was all over the drummer's ass the rest of the song, yelling and screaming about something. He was pissed for sure, as you can tell this is a song Jon likes to get off on as he should. I think the drums may have been slow but I'm not sure. I do know that it really was one of the biggest screwups I've seen live by a band the stature of IE, and I know Jon the perfectionist will not tolerate it.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a new drummer soon and for that matter, another lead player. That dude just doesn't fit the part of Iced Earth, he looks like a serious puss and comes across like one.

Still, this is one of the heaviest shows I've seen and I liked the set list better than I thought I would. I Walk Alone is turning into an IE anthem and was heavy as hell, maybe the best tune of the night. Behold the Wicked Child was a great opening song because it featured Jon hammering the opening power chord riff that sounded really tight and exemplified metal.

I really could care less about the vocals, I'm a fan of Matt's and he is fine on albums and the Alive in Athens CD. Ripper is an acquaintance from my town of Akron and he is much better live but doesn't carry as much weight when being the embodiment of metal like Matt does.

IE is pretty much the baddest band out there now, this new album is better than Metallica's comeback attempt, Priest, Maiden, Metal Church or anybody else that's put out new stuff from the old schoolers.

at this show, what was the order of the support bands? if you know, i.e.

Maiden33
10-01-2008, 08:46 PM
Into Gayternity? How in the world could you have any against them? They have fast heavy songs, and play them to prefection Live.

I HATE Into Eternity. I have had to see that band live SIX times now, all on different tours, all with horribly inappropriate bands. I've heard them live, I've heard them in the studio, and failed to be impressed by either. They have moments where I'm like: "I like this, this is good", but then they always just fuck it up by throwing in 5 unnecessary changes and breakdowns which totally fuck any feel the song may have had into oblivion. They embody the "complexity for the sake of complexity" vibe I hate about so much music carrying the "Progressive" tag these days. And frankly if their live performances are "perfection", I would be kind of concerned, considering the sloppiness is tangible even for someone as disinterested as myself.
Nothing against you, but I have a grudge against Into Eternity like you wouldn't believe.

Maiden33
10-01-2008, 08:47 PM
I'm so happy I apparently attended the only show on this tour where Hold at All Costs was not TOTALLY fucked up! :party:

xStructualDefect
10-01-2008, 09:13 PM
i'm really glad that the crowd was really into Into Eternity.
i had a feeling that the Iced Earth fans would give them shit.

too bad i'm not catching this tour.
DevilDriver is playing the same day as IE/IE is.
and i've seen Into Eternity already this year with Symphony X
but i haven't seen DevilDriver this year yet.
and to be honest,
i was never a big Iced Earth fan.
i mean they have some great songs
but could never get really into them.
although i must admit i listen to "Wolf" a looot.
defiently my favorite song by them.

Butcher of Birth
10-04-2008, 12:07 PM
at this show, what was the order of the support bands? if you know, i.e.

It went Into Eternity then Iced Earth. Only Two Bands.

Butcher of Birth
10-04-2008, 12:09 PM
I HATE Into Eternity. I have had to see that band live SIX times now, all on different tours, all with horribly inappropriate bands. I've heard them live, I've heard them in the studio, and failed to be impressed by either. They have moments where I'm like: "I like this, this is good", but then they always just fuck it up by throwing in 5 unnecessary changes and breakdowns which totally fuck any feel the song may have had into oblivion. They embody the "complexity for the sake of complexity" vibe I hate about so much music carrying the "Progressive" tag these days. And frankly if their live performances are "perfection", I would be kind of concerned, considering the sloppiness is tangible even for someone as disinterested as myself.
Nothing against you, but I have a grudge against Into Eternity like you wouldn't believe.


Ok no problem then. Just wanted to see what your deal was. "complexity for the sake of complexity", sorry but I instantly thought of Dream Theater haha. "Playing Music; Like It's A Sport!"

Altmer7989
10-04-2008, 12:35 PM
Into Gayternity? How in the world could you have any against them? They have fast heavy songs, and play them to prefection Live.

their songwriting is a gigantic mess. there's all these good parts but they never develop into a song and then the singer is way too over the top for me. sorry, into eternity fans, but I do not dig :(

Sinfulsot
10-04-2008, 01:44 PM
It went Into Eternity then Iced Earth. Only Two Bands.

i meant the cleveland show that was posted in this thread. or was it only IE/IE @ Cleveland as well?

andrew_metalhead
10-08-2008, 07:57 PM
can anyone tell me how much the iced earth shirts cost at the venue?

Butcher of Birth
10-09-2008, 01:26 PM
can anyone tell me how much the iced earth shirts cost at the venue?

All shirts were $30 for Iced Earth. The Tour Shirt was the album cover, came in Long Sleeve for $35. They had Framing Arm. Shirt, "Mummy Guy Face" Shirt, Angel being killed Shirt, and Some other.

They were all out of most sizes by the end of our show. So I suggest bying Merch 1st to get the size desired.

andrew_metalhead
10-09-2008, 09:53 PM
oh! then i shud get one of the regular shirts itself man .. they cost at least 10 bucks lesser :D