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ravenheart
03-25-2008, 06:02 PM
Venue: Astoria
Support: Pain

Pain (19:50 - 20:30)
Same Old Song
Eleanor Rigby
End of The Line
Zombie Slam
Nailed To The Ground
Just Hate Me
On And On
Shut Your Mouth

Nightwish (21:00 - 22:30)
Bye, Bye Beautiful
Dark Chest of Wonders
Whoever Brings The Night
The Siren
Amaranth
The Pit And The Pendulum
Dead To The World
The Islander (with Troy Donockley)
Last of The Wilds (with Troy Donockley)
Sahara
Nemo
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Wishmaster
Wish I Had An Angel


Nightwish were OK. Much better than with Tarja. Pain blew them away.

ravenheart
03-26-2008, 02:10 AM
Can I ask that whoever stops changing my thread titles to "UK" instead of "England". We are separate countries, not different states of the same country. The UK is a union of countries under the same sovereignity.

sneakbobcat
03-26-2008, 05:54 AM
We should settle for:
London, England, UK
Manchester, England, UK

Edinburgh, Scotland, UK
Glasgow, Scotland, UK

ravenheart
03-26-2008, 06:59 AM
I suppose, technically, yes. But just "UK" isn't correct.

hot_turkey_ed
03-26-2008, 12:13 PM
Can I ask that whoever stops changing my thread titles to "UK" instead of "England". We are separate countries, not different states of the same country. The UK is a union of countries under the same sovereignity.

We should settle for:
London, England, UK
Manchester, England, UK

Edinburgh, Scotland, UK
Glasgow, Scotland, UK

I suppose, technically, yes. But just "UK" isn't correct.

I've been changing it. I'm the one that largely keeps consistency on the thread titles as they come into metalsetlists. A long time ago, I made the following decision to standardize set list titles as such:

For US: band -- city, state abbr -- month nnxx, yyyy
For Non-US: band -- city, country_name -- month nnxx, yyyy

For country name, I usually take guidance from how a country is represented in the United Nations. England may be a separate country in a union of countries but Great Britain / UK is the one with the mission at the UN and a seat on the Security Council. The membership is listed at "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland". See http://www.un.org/members/list.shtml

We have similiar issues with shows in Canada and Spain. Take Spain for example. We have a couple of people who post reports for gigs in Basque Country. I usually change their country_name's to Spain for the same reason as I change England to UK. We're not trying to get into pissing contests, just trying to keep it simple.

Spiral_Slave
03-26-2008, 01:55 PM
They played Last Of The Wilds? How did they pull that off live?

ravenheart
03-26-2008, 05:10 PM
They played Last Of The Wilds? How did they pull that off live?

With Troy Donockley, obviously ;)

ravenheart
03-26-2008, 05:14 PM
Take Spain for example. We have a couple of people who post reports for gigs in Basque Country. I usually change their country_name's to Spain for the same reason as I change England to UK. We're not trying to get into pissing contests, just trying to keep it simple.

Yes, but that makes sense. Basque Country isn't a country. It doesn't even officially exist anymore.

My country is called England. Has been since 927. Very likely always will be.

Div
03-27-2008, 01:38 PM
Never really listened to much Nightwish. Heard the song "Wish I Had an Angel" recently and I thought it was horribly poppy and just sucked all over the place, are all their songs like that, what's the attraction here?

hot_turkey_ed
03-27-2008, 04:59 PM
Can I ask that whoever stops changing my thread titles to "UK" instead of "England". We are separate countries, not different states of the same country. The UK is a union of countries under the same sovereignity.

We should settle for:
London, England, UK
Manchester, England, UK

Edinburgh, Scotland, UK
Glasgow, Scotland, UK

I took a day to think this over and the impact on the archive, past and moving forward. Both of you contribute a lot to the site, and I've alway tried to listen to and accomodate our core. It's really not a big deal. If you all want British set lists tagged differently, that's fine by me. In the future, we'll handle the UK like:

band -- city, Scotland -- date
band -- city, England -- date
band -- city, Ireland -- date
band -- city, Wales -- date

I'll handle changing the set lists archive on the back end, just not today.

ravenheart
03-28-2008, 02:16 AM
Never really listened to much Nightwish. Heard the song "Wish I Had an Angel" recently and I thought it was horribly poppy and just sucked all over the place, are all their songs like that, what's the attraction here?

Most of the popular singles with the old singer are like that, yes. That's why they were/are a popular band with all the teen metallers.

Try "Bye, Bye Beautiful" and "The Poet And The Pendulum" from the new album. Different singer, way heavier.

ravenheart
03-28-2008, 02:18 AM
I took a day to think this over and the impact on the archive, past and moving forward. Both of you contribute a lot to the site, and I've alway tried to listen to and accomodate our core. It's really not a big deal. If you all want British set lists tagged differently, that's fine by me. In the future, we'll handle the UK like:

band -- city, Scotland -- date
band -- city, England -- date
band -- city, Ireland -- date
band -- city, Wales -- date

I'll handle changing the set lists archive on the back end, just not today.

Nice one bro. Much appreciated.

You'll be needing to add "band -- city, Northern Ireland -- date" too. Not that I've seen many posts for gigs in Belfast, but still... it'll only need one.

wroed
03-28-2008, 05:34 AM
Went to the final London show last night. They dropped Dead To The World and added Sacrament Of Wilderness and 7 Days To The Wolves

ravenheart
03-28-2008, 05:37 AM
I did notice 7 Days To The Wolves has been the first song of the encore almost everywhere else on the tour.

Did you catch Pain?

wroed
03-28-2008, 08:13 AM
Did you catch Pain?

Yes they were somewhat disappointing based on previous, very good experiences. Crowd were very disinterested and it felt a bit flat.

Here's my review and Johan's photos....

http://www.rockersdigest.com/default.aspx?mainact=2&artid=228

ravenheart
03-28-2008, 08:33 AM
The crowd really liked them on Tuesday. It took a couple of songs, but they seemed to get into them.

Maiden33
03-28-2008, 09:57 AM
I could never ever get into Nightwish with Tarja, but I must admit I really dig a good portion of the new album, particularly Poet and the Pendulum.

hot_turkey_ed
03-28-2008, 10:34 AM
Nice one bro. Much appreciated.

You'll be needing to add "band -- city, Northern Ireland -- date" too. Not that I've seen many posts for gigs in Belfast, but still... it'll only need one.

:cool:

ravenheart
03-29-2008, 11:23 AM
They're worth seeing just to laugh at their dwarf guitarist.

Spiral_Slave
03-29-2008, 11:32 AM
They're worth seeing just to laugh at their dwarf guitarist.

Emppu is the man!

HannTu
03-31-2008, 12:42 PM
http://www.metal-rules.com/zine/content/view/1266/75/

sneakbobcat
03-31-2008, 04:46 PM
Nice one bro. Much appreciated.

You'll be needing to add "band -- city, Northern Ireland -- date" too. Not that I've seen many posts for gigs in Belfast, but still... it'll only need one.

You'd be surprised by the number of bands that do play Northern Ireland, but a lot of the time the gigs aren't promoted all that well so you don't actually hear about them. Often the Irish/Norther Irish dates are left off tour posters when a band tours the UK.. especially when it's Ireland - because it's not in the UK.

Also cheers for the change to Scotland and England :)
It's not a massive difference, just makes a clear distinction as to where the gig is actually taking place..

ravenheart
09-16-2008, 04:50 PM
http://www.jukeboxmetal.com/2008/nightwish-astoria-2008/