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hot_turkey_ed
12-12-2007, 10:37 PM
Those of you who own Rock Band and Guitar Hero III for PS3 are aware that the Les Paul Guitar controller won't work for Rock Band. Harmonix, the folks behind Rock Band, developed a patch and Activision is essentially blocking its release (See Google News for complete coverage (http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&ie=UTF-8&ncl=1124859159) ).

Activision deserves the shit storm it is receiving. A lot of people are speaking up and I'm adding my voice to the choir. I'm mad as hell and I'm going to let my little peace of the metal world know about it. Activision isn't screwing Harmonix, the developer behind Rock Band. It's screwing the fans, gamers everywhere. Everyone wins with open standards. We get better gaming experiences and the businesses behind them will make even more money.

A METALSETLISTS' FIRST, I encourage you all to withhold your Activision purchases until the matter is resolved. Contact the company

Quoting a fellow gamer at the Rock Band site:

i'm boycotting activision :mad:

why the animosity all of a sudden from Activision/RO? don't they see it would be a win-win for all?

who knows, the patch might magically appear somewhere ;) muahahahaha

when contacting try to:

Be polite
Keep the information concise and to the point
Include a brief history of the issue, if applicable
Do not accept being passed back to "Customer Services" or elsewhere within the organisation
Insist on a reply from the CEO

some point of contacts:

Activision, Inc.
DBA Vicarious Visions

mlataif@activision.com (valid) Maryanne Lataif - VP - Corporate Communications
ir@activision.com investor relations (valid)
hr@activision.com human resourses (valid)
support@activision.com(no longer works) cs7@activision.com(got back an automated response to use the support form on their website) customer support


Address: 3100 Ocean Park Blvd.
Santa Monica, CA 90405 Other Addresses:

Primary Phone: (310) 255-2000
Other Phone Numbers: (310) 255-2050
Connie Fox or Lauren Barry (310) 255-2509

Primary Fax: (310) 255-2152
Other Fax Numbers: (310) 255-2151

Contacts:

Robert Kotick bkotick@activision.com (valid)
CEO

Assistants to Robert Kotick
Connie Fox cfox@activision.com (valid)
Lauren Barry lbarry@activision.com(valid)


Phil Terzian
Sr. Director of Government Affairs

Rich Robinson
VP Quality Assurance/Customer Support

Dyer Ashley
Sr. Manager Corporate Communications

Gary Bolduc
Customer Service Manager

George Rose
Senior VP/Bus Affair, Gen Cnsl

Mike Hill
Customer Support Manager

*if you have trouble getting through you can also try to call after office hours and get through to the employees directory or dial the first few letters of the persons last name to be transferred to their direct line, voice mail, or assistant in charge of thier calls.

:mad::mad::mad:

:fight::fight::fight::fight:

:bigfinger

powerslave_85
12-12-2007, 10:45 PM
Wait, so this only makes a difference if you want to have a second guitar player in Rock Band? Sorry, I've never played either of these games, so I don't really know how it works.

hot_turkey_ed
12-12-2007, 10:54 PM
Wait, so this only makes a difference if you want to have a second guitar player in Rock Band? Sorry, I've never played either of these games, so I don't really know how it works.

Rock Band can have four people playing at once: vocals, guitar, bass, drums. Guitar Hero is a single player guitar shred game. There is a multiplayer component but the single player is where a lot of the action is.

Harmonix, the folks behind Rock Band, built Guitar Hero through Guitar Hero. Activision got their hands the franchise for Guitar Hero III. Harmonix has let third parties build guitar controllers for the game. People expect controllers to work like driving games and steering wheels do. In this case, Activision is apparently blocking the release of a patch that would allow their controller to work with Rock Band. They've got every right to do it. A lot of Guitar Hero players are letting them know what they can do with that right. :fingers:

Both games play alike on the key points. You a select song and 'play' it by hitting 'notes' on a controller that match the rhythm of the music. Both games have guitar hero with five colored button and a strum bar.

powerslave_85
12-12-2007, 10:56 PM
In this case, Activision is apparently blocking the release of a patch that would allow their controller to work with Rock Band. They've got every right to do it. A lot of Guitar Hero players are letting them know what they can do with that right. :fingers:Well then I kind of fail to see the problem. Sucks, but hey, that's business.

hot_turkey_ed
12-12-2007, 11:04 PM
Well then I kind of fail to see the problem. Sucks, but hey, that's business.

It's bad business, pissing off their customers and all... and a lot of us are really pissed. The flip side of that business is press like this thread. Better yet is the lashing they are receiving in the gaming media. What kind of business needs headlines like "Activision Tells Gamers 'Go Fuck Yourselves' (http://blog.shacknews.com/blogarticle.x/50356)"?

powerslave_85
12-12-2007, 11:08 PM
They're probably not too worried about it, really. They're still gonna sell the shit out of Guitar Hero III during the holiday season.

hot_turkey_ed
12-12-2007, 11:14 PM
They're probably not too worried about it, really. They're still gonna sell the shit out of Guitar Hero III during the holiday season.

You're almost defending The Man! What kind of liberal are you? :D

Activision has already sold the shit of out it.... part of those sales were folks buying GH III so that they would already have a second guitar for Rock Band. Activision has made millions off Rock Band.... the hypocrisy almost kills me! :hecho:

powerslave_85
12-12-2007, 11:17 PM
I'm not really defending them, and if I were in your situation I'd probably be angry too, but these kinds of companies just don't really give a shit about these kinds of things. If the dissent gets too loud, they'll probably just throw in a coupon or a mail-in rebate or something to get people to shut up.

hot_turkey_ed
12-12-2007, 11:23 PM
I'm not really defending them, and if I were in your situation I'd probably be angry too, but these kinds of companies just don't really give a shit about these kinds of things. If the dissent gets too loud, they'll probably just throw in a coupon or a mail-in rebate or something to get people to shut up.

It's unfortunate. Activision had a great opportunity to be a heroes to the gaming community instead of corporate assholes.


Dedicated to Activision right now and so aptly timed...

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ravenheart
12-13-2007, 01:43 AM
:violin:

So one kind of controller doesn't work? Buy a different one.

DethMaiden
12-13-2007, 04:09 AM
Well, considering I love Guitar Hero and am getting GHIII for Christmas and I don't like Rock Band, this fails to affect me.

hot_turkey_ed
12-13-2007, 06:54 AM
So one kind of controller doesn't work? Buy a different one.

There is not one available. Activision is just being a dick.

ravenheart
12-13-2007, 07:11 AM
There is not one available. Activision is just being a dick.

There isn't another controller? So there's a game out that absolutely no one can play?

hot_turkey_ed
12-13-2007, 07:43 AM
There isn't another controller? So there's a game out that absolutely no one can play?

You would have to buy another bundle just for the guitar. Eventually, both GH and RB will have extra guitars to sell, sometime in 2008. It's telling to me that Harmonix is willing support third parties as it applies to controllers. Activision is going for lock-in. Interoperability is good for the gamer; unfortunately, Activision is sacrificing our interests in a petty attempt to screw a competitor. It's very short sighted. Not only might they sell more hardware, they would be generating excitement for games of both systems and the genre on the whole. Everybody wins.

Instead, Activision is being corporate dick and that violates The Law. :allan:

JRA
12-13-2007, 08:16 AM
Instead, Activision is being corporate dick and that violates The Law. :allan:

Ah, if only being a dick was actually a violation of the law. :bliss:

hot_turkey_ed
12-13-2007, 08:18 AM
Just a question of the jurisdiction... maybe I can create an activision account and ban it. :cool:

SomewhereInTime72
12-13-2007, 08:22 AM
Just a question of the jurisdiction... maybe I can create an activision account and ban it. :cool:

Haha, with the "Banned Asshole" user title.

Yeah activision pretty much sucks.

They also put 10 zillion more ads and product placement type things in GH3.

Div
12-13-2007, 10:08 AM
my friends rock band guitar was a bit inaccurate so they sent him a new one to replace it. hes supposed to return the old one, but until he does we have 2 guitars to play with. :D

Activision, Inc.
12-13-2007, 10:17 AM
Screw you Ed, we can do whatever we want. We just merged with Blizzard Entertainment to form the super-mega-ultra corporation: Activision Blizzard. Now, with our powers combined, we can see to it that you the only guitars you'll be using will cost more than your car.

Also, the new Activision Blizzard doesn't believe in coupons, rebates, or customer satisfaction.

hot_turkey_ed
12-13-2007, 10:19 AM
Screw you Ed, we can do whatever we want. We just merged with Blizzard Entertainment to form the super-mega-ultra corporation: Activision Blizzard. Now, with our powers combined, we can see to it that you the only guitars you'll be using will cost more than your car.

Also, the new Activision Blizzard doesn't believe in coupons, rebates, or customer satisfaction.

:LOLFC:

EvilCheeseWedge
12-13-2007, 10:23 AM
I personally don't really care for Guitar Hero, but I think it's a load of bull what Activision is doing. It can't really be worth it for all the bad press. It's also scary to think that if their merger goes through, they'll be the world's largest gaming company - even dwarfing EA.

http://activisionblizzard.com/

What a clever, clever name.

Div
12-13-2007, 12:57 PM
http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2007/20071205.jpg

hot_turkey_ed
12-13-2007, 08:48 PM
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To Music Gaming Fans:

The recent announcement by MTV Games/Viacom's Harmonix division that Activision is blocking Sony from releasing a patch and their plea to enable Rock Band software to work with Guitar Hero hardware paints a very misleading picture.

In fact, Harmonix and its parent company MTV Games/Viacom recently declined Activision's offer to reach an agreement that would allow the use of Guitar Hero guitar controllers with Rock Band. We have been and remain open to discussions with Harmonix and MTV Games/Viacom about the use of our technology in Rock Band. Unfortunately for Rock Band users, in this case Harmonix and MTV Games/Viacom are unwilling to discuss an agreement with Activision.

Activision's top priority is to provide consumers with a seamless marriage of best-in-class hardware and software. We are focusing our efforts on innovating hardware and software that are designed to work together, work flawlessly and provide an enjoyable gaming experience.

Best regards,

Activision

An offer "that would allow the use of Guitar Hero guitar controllers with Rock Band"? I read that as extortion. Activision wants to be paid.

:rat:

JRA
12-14-2007, 12:06 PM
Has anybody else noticed that our newest member is named "Activision Inc."? :eyes:

es156
12-14-2007, 03:30 PM
Has anybody else noticed that our newest member is named "Activision Inc."? :eyes:

You don't think they would let all this bashing slide do you?


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