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DethMaiden
05-01-2007, 02:14 PM
Just curious what everyone thinks.

Personally, I think this is at time more stylistically similar to Geddy's solo album than to recent Rush. Musically, everyone is really clicking and the songwriting couldn't be much more flawless. Neil's lyrics aren't as sharp as they normally are. The three instrumentals are all fucking awesome and among the best songs on the album.

These songs will be sweet live, in other words :allan:

Fe Maiden
05-01-2007, 04:03 PM
Just curious what everyone thinks.

Personally, I think this is at time more stylistically similar to Geddy's solo album than to recent Rush. Musically, everyone is really clicking and the songwriting couldn't be much more flawless. Neil's lyrics aren't as sharp as they normally are. The three instrumentals are all fucking awesome and among the best songs on the album.

These songs will be sweet live, in other words :allan:Damn, you beat me to it! I was going to start the same thread! I agree the instrumentals are terrific. I love all RUSH instrumentals and wish there were more of them. The production is lightyears ahead of Vapor Trails. Alex seems to be the star that really shines on this album. Lots of acoustic guitar from him in there as well. I see it as a Geddy Lee My Favorite Headache meets Vapor Trails album with terrific production. Thank God Alex brought back some solos!!!! I need to give it a few more listens to really get a good feel for the album.

SomewhereInTime72
05-01-2007, 06:39 PM
I like it. It doesn't compare to a lot of Rush's earlier stuff, but its still well written and executed. My only real problem is the abundance of tracks and similar style of lyrics makes the album drag at some points (Tracks 3-5 kind of blend into eachother :eyes: ). It sort of reminds me of Test For Echo type sound... And I wish I were seeing them live :snivel:

DethMaiden
05-01-2007, 06:55 PM
Which songs do you think will be played live off of here?

Far Cry, obviously, but I'm hoping for Armor and Sword, The Way the Wind Blows, and especially The Main Monkey Business and Malignant Narcissism.

es156
05-01-2007, 06:59 PM
Personally, I think this is at time more stylistically similar to Geddy's solo album than to recent Rush.

This was my first thought as well.

After one spin, I can honestly say that I am entirely unimpressed and somewhat disappointed. Maybe my expectations are too high?

:hmm:

DethMaiden
05-01-2007, 07:00 PM
This was my first thought as well.

After one spin, I can honestly say that I am entirely unimpressed and somewhat disappointed. Maybe my expectations are too high?

:hmm:

That was my reaction on first listen, but I just finished up my fourth. It truly gets better each time, so hang in there!

es156
05-01-2007, 07:02 PM
That was my reaction on first listen, but I just finished up my fourth. It truly gets better each time, so hang in there!

Well, I find that to be true of a lot of their material. And it was definitely true with Geddy's solo CD, which grew on me over time to the point that I now consider it essential to my Rush collection.

JRA
05-01-2007, 07:11 PM
I have no interest in Geddy's solo album so when I pick of Snakes & Arrows it will pwn me instantly! :party:

Fe Maiden
05-01-2007, 07:34 PM
This was my first thought as well.

After one spin, I can honestly say that I am entirely unimpressed and somewhat disappointed. Maybe my expectations are too high?

:hmm:If one is expecting to be blown away with the power and energy of 2112, Moving Pictures, or Permanent Waves then yeah, this album will disappoint. I find it to be the type of album to listen to with a glass of wine and to relax and unwind to. It is somewhat mellow overall. The main standout so far is the instrumental The Main Monkey Business:drool: I'm sure this will be done live and will be just outstanding! The other songs I like so far are: The Larger Bowl, Spindrift, The Way The Wind Blows (some blues feel in there), & Faithless. It is a grower so give it more spins and get into the lyrics as they are not half bad. The short insturmentals Hope (I think Alex's son did this) and Malignant Narcissism are fun as well. Hope is surprisingly beautiful as an acoustic instrumental.

es156
05-01-2007, 08:07 PM
If one is expecting to be blown away with the power and energy of 2112, Moving Pictures, or Permanent Waves then yeah, this album will disappoint.

I have been a Rush fan long enough (since about 1981) to know what to expect. I certainly was not looking for a return to the glory days, so to speak. I think Far Cry is to blame for my elevated expectations. When I heard that song a few weeks ago I was blown away. So far I feel that the rest of the album does not really live up to that track. Again these are just first impressions, I am not dismissing the album or anything like that.

Fe Maiden
05-01-2007, 08:14 PM
I have been a Rush fan long enough (since about 1981) to know what to expect. I certainly was not looking for a return to the glory days, so to speak. I think Far Cry is to blame for my elevated expectations. When I heard that song a few weeks ago I was blown away. So far I feel that the rest of the album does not really live up to that track. Again these are just first impressions, I am not dismissing the album or anything like that.I've been a RUSH fan since the 1979, so about the same amount of time as you, and I must say they have gone through quite an evolution. This album shows their maturity as a band. Again, give it more listens, especially the tracks I mentioned, and I'm sure they may grow on you a bit.

ADD
05-01-2007, 09:16 PM
Pretty average, I'm sure it will grow on me though as most all Rush albums do, I've rarely liked any of them right away. I agree with es156 mostly, and also that the instrumentals are the best besides Far Cry.

DethMaiden
05-02-2007, 02:34 AM
The short insturmentals Hope (I think Alex's son did this) and Malignant Narcissism are fun as well. Hope is surprisingly beautiful as an acoustic instrumental.

I'm pretty sure "Lerxst Lifeson" is just Alex's nickname.

Fe Maiden
05-02-2007, 06:18 AM
I'm pretty sure "Lerxst Lifeson" is just Alex's nickname.You may be correct!

SirLardsAlot
05-02-2007, 10:31 AM
I'm pretty sure "Lerxst Lifeson" is just Alex's nickname.

From Wikipedia:

"Lifeson's nickname among his associates is "Lerxst". The name appears in the sub-titles of La Villa Strangiato, an instrumental based humorously on Lifeson's nightmares, from the Rush album Hemispheres. Hope, from the album Snakes & Arrows, is credited to "Lerxst Lifeson, all by his own self""

EvilCheeseWedge
05-02-2007, 10:49 AM
I plan on picking this album up after work today.

Fe Maiden
05-02-2007, 01:26 PM
From Wikipedia:

"Lifeson's nickname among his associates is "Lerxst". The name appears in the sub-titles of La Villa Strangiato, an instrumental based humorously on Lifeson's nightmares, from the Rush album Hemispheres. Hope, from the album Snakes & Arrows, is credited to "Lerxst Lifeson, all by his own self"":cool: Why did I think it might be his son????:confused:

zgodt
05-04-2007, 07:45 PM
On track 3... so far so good... better than I would have anticipated. :)

JRA
07-05-2008, 06:52 PM
I have no interest in Geddy's solo album so when I pick of Snakes & Arrows it will pwn me instantly! :party:

NUCLEAR NECROMANCE!

This album did not pwn me instantly. Perhaps its a grower, yet I don't really want to put in "repeated listening time."

Standout tracks for me: Far Cry, The Way The Wind Blows, and (surprise!) We Hold On. I'm pissed they never played that live, as opposed to the supremo lamo "Working That Ass." What a piece of shit that is.

Other thoughts:

13 tracks is too much for single album digestion, even if they do add up to barely an hour.

-Main Monkey Business is too long. You expect it to end over and over but it doesn't. :hecho:

-Geddy's vocal melodies seem to be the standout trait. When you have a band that's world renowned for instrumental prowess (and not so renowned for vocals), I think you have a problem. Sure Geddy's gotten better with phrasing, but everybody else has gotten too subtle.

-As good as it is, "Far Cry" really needs a real solo.