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DethMaiden
12-20-2006, 01:31 PM
Source: Blabbermouth (http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=64124)

I thought this was very nice:

Launch Radio Networks reports: It might seem funny to some people, what with all the black leather and everything, but JUDAS PRIEST frontman Rob Halford is really into the holiday season. He wishes the advertising was toned down, but he told Launch that the real meanings behind Christmas — peace and love, and the birth of Jesus Christ — are always on his mind. "It brings everybody together," he said. "Everybody's good with everybody else, and you kind of wish that would last for 364 days in the year, instead of just the one day of the year. For me, also, on a spiritual level, it's important because it's a special event that I know is commercialized, but at least we're always reminded what it's about. It's a time to feel excited about that, and what that event represents, what it means to humanity."

hot_turkey_ed
12-20-2006, 02:27 PM
DM, I spruced your post a bit... good catch on the article.

:cool:

DethMaiden
12-20-2006, 02:30 PM
DM, I spruced your post a bit... good catch on the article.

:cool:

Thank you :D

ChildrenofSodom
12-20-2006, 02:39 PM
Has he come out of the religion closet?

Yoda
12-20-2006, 03:23 PM
This whole concept makes me say......:eyes:

MetalDrummer888
12-20-2006, 03:29 PM
This whole concept makes me say......:eyes:

what "whole concept" :eyes:

Yoda
12-20-2006, 03:33 PM
what "whole concept" :eyes:

Rob speaking out about the "true meaning of Xmas" being peace, love, and remembering Jsus. When I think of Xmas and this particular religion, Rob Halford isn't exactly the spokeman who comes to mind.

MetalDrummer888
12-20-2006, 03:36 PM
Rob speaking out about the "true meaning of Xmas" being peace, love, and remembering Jsus. When I think of Xmas and this particular religion, Rob Halford isn't exactly the spokeman who comes to mind.

huh . . . i guess . . . rob has always seemed like a pretty chill, down to earth guy

. . . actually this doesnt suprise me at all . . .




but this does . . .

http://www.thepin-up.com/diamond.jpg

SomewhereInTime72
12-20-2006, 03:59 PM
:party: :party:

hot_turkey_ed
12-20-2006, 04:00 PM
Rob speaking out about the "true meaning of Xmas" being peace, love, and remembering Jsus. When I think of Xmas and this particular religion, Rob Halford isn't exactly the spokeman who comes to mind.

The message is a good one, regardless the specific messenger. Is it really that bad?

MetalDrummer888
12-20-2006, 04:21 PM
Rob speaking out about the "true meaning of Xmas" being peace, love, and remembering Jsus. When I think of Xmas and this particular religion, Rob Halford isn't exactly the spokeman who comes to mind.

i try to get my family members to remember that stuff and im an athiest

you really shouldn't be that suprised

Yoda
12-20-2006, 04:32 PM
The message is a good one, regardless the specific messenger. Is it really that bad?


Bad wasn't my point, just strange coming from this source.

DethMaiden
12-20-2006, 04:49 PM
I think it's quite lovely. Perhaps he isn't a Christian, but I agree with him in every point he made.

Div
12-20-2006, 05:46 PM
I think, in America mostly, theres two types of Christmases. One if the religious holiday, and the other is more like a second birthday.


And is Halford trying to say he's a Christian, or is he just talking about the holiday in general?

DethMaiden
12-20-2006, 05:49 PM
I think, in America mostly, theres two types of Christmases. One if the religious holiday, and the other is more like a second birthday.


And is Halford trying to say he's a Christian, or is he just talking about the holiday in general?

I think there are three types, the two you named, and the one which Halford is referring to: basically a time of brotherhood, love, and people generally getting along. See: Old City Bar by Trans-Siberian Orchestra.

ChildrenofSodom
12-20-2006, 07:00 PM
I think there are three types, the two you named, and the one which Halford is referring to: basically a time of brotherhood, love, and people generally getting along in celebration of Christ's Birth. .

fixed

MetalDrummer888
12-20-2006, 07:37 PM
fixed

wow . . . that post-change pretty much outlines everything i hate about serious christians . . . thankyou :party:

MetalDrummer888
12-20-2006, 07:42 PM
a time of brotherhood, love, and people generally getting along

that is christmas :)


and ChildrenofSodom: Christmas is not christ's birthday . . . last i heard histrians put it around april . . . Christmas is celebrated at the time it is because early christians wanted to make the new religion more accessable to the pagans that inhabited most of germanic europe during that time period. December 25th was a pagan winter feast and only later became that celebration of christ's birth that we know today :cool:

so, christmas is number one "a time of brotherhood, love, and people generally getting along" as DethMaiden put it, second a celebration of the birth/life of Jesus Christ, and third a commercialized mess that wrecks any real gains in spiritual well-being made by the first two :bouville:

hot_turkey_ed
12-20-2006, 07:43 PM
wow . . . that post-change pretty much outlines everything i hate about serious christians . . . thankyou :party:

As an athiest, why do you have anything to do wtih CHRISTmas? Unless you're watching Bud ads or Hallmark commercials and that's what you choose to base your holidays on, the Christ part of Christmas is extremely relevant.

MetalDrummer888
12-20-2006, 07:49 PM
As an athiest, why do you have anything to do wtih CHRISTmas? Unless you're watching Bud ads or Hallmark commercials and that's what you choose to base your holidays on, the Christ part of Christmas is extremely relevant.

maybe thats how it started, but that really doesnt matter any more.

whatever . . . im not getting in another one of these religious debates . . . i dont want you arguing your point and then banning me before i can say anything :D

hot_turkey_ed
12-20-2006, 07:50 PM
that is christmas :)


and ChildrenofSodom: Christmas is not christ's birthday . . . last i heard histrians put it around april . . . Christmas is celebrated at the time it is because early christians wanted to make the new religion more accessable to the pagans that inhabited most of germanic europe during that time period. December 25th was a pagan winter feast and only later became that celebration of christ's birth that we know today :cool:

so, christmas is number one "a time of brotherhood, love, and people generally getting along" as DethMaiden put it, second a celebration of the birth/life of Jesus Christ, and third a commercialized mess that wrecks any real gains in spiritual well-being made by the first two :bouville:

I was typing my last post and you entered yours but it's still timely.

The specific origin of December 25th is unimportant unless you're trying to deconstruct Christianity instead of emphasizing the ultimate meaning of the holiday. What's your game? ;)

EvilCheeseWedge
12-20-2006, 08:12 PM
Confess?

MetalDrummer888
12-20-2006, 08:53 PM
I was typing my last post and you entered yours but it's still timely.

The specific origin of December 25th is unimportant unless you're trying to deconstruct Christianity instead of emphasizing the ultimate meaning of the holiday. What's your game? ;)

i dont even know anymore :eyes:

ChildrenofSodom
12-20-2006, 08:55 PM
I was already aware of the speculation that Christs birthday was in the spring (how can they prove that), but Christians celebrate Christmas as a celebration of Christs birthday and how it affects mankind. Us christians dont buy a birthday cake and shit like that. The churchs I have gone to use the idea that a King was born, the son of God, and was the messenger of peace and hope for the world. It is less about the actual birth of Christ and more about how all of us today have a chance to repent, live in peace and harmony with our brothers. The church I used to go to used to say "Its Jesus birthday, not yours." And the preacher asked everyone to match how ever much they spent on presents and give it to a Sudan project. They built fresh-water reserves, set up schools and churches, and are setting up adoptions.

From what you are saying, it seems the day used to comemorate Christ's coming just happens to be the most brotherly and peaceful day, just by chance. It started out with people being nice to celebrate the new-born saviour. The holiday isnt meant to spread religion specifically, but the message of Jesus; that we should be kind to each other, help the less fortunate, protect our brothers, etc. Over the years, the religion has been downplayed, but the overall idea has stayed.

hot_turkey_ed
12-20-2006, 08:56 PM
i dont even know anymore :eyes:

Fair enough... yours will likely be one of the most honest answers we're going to see on this topic. :)

MetalDrummer888
12-20-2006, 09:09 PM
Fair enough... yours will likely be one of the most honest answers we're going to see on this topic. :)

all im trying to say is that in my opinion christmas should not be about worshipping jesus christ, but worshipping the things he preached; peace, love and kinship . . . so whether you identify yourself with christianity, or another religion, or no religion at all, you can still identify with the fundamental point of christmas.

:light:



























this of course, is my excuse as an athiest to justify getting presents on a religious holiday i really dont have anything to do with :lol:

ChildrenofSodom
12-20-2006, 09:28 PM
all im trying to say is that in my opinion christmas should not be about worshipping jesus christ, but worshipping the things he preached; peace, love and kinship . . . so whether you identify yourself with christianity, or another religion, or no religion at all, you can still identify with the fundamental point of christmas.

:light:

exactly

MetalDrummer888
12-20-2006, 09:32 PM
exactly

ha, you are the last person i would have expected to agree with me on that . . . but thankyou :)

ADD
12-20-2006, 09:36 PM
all im trying to say is that in my opinion christmas should not be about worshipping jesus christ, but worshipping the things he preached; peace, love and kinship . . . so whether you identify yourself with christianity, or another religion, or no religion at all, you can still identify with the fundamental point of christmas.

:light:


this of course, is my excuse as an athiest to justify getting presents on a religious holiday i really dont have anything to do with :lol:

Yes.

:lol: :D

MetalDrummer888
12-20-2006, 09:52 PM
exactly

Yes.

:lol: :D

well i guess i am just a genius philosopher :cool:




ok . . . bedtime :party:

DethMaiden
12-21-2006, 03:32 AM
I agree also :D But last page I already basically said that ;)

ChildrenofSodom
12-21-2006, 03:35 AM
ha, you are the last person i would have expected to agree with me on that . . . but thankyou :)

I agreed with what you said regarding the practice of Christian principles, not Christian rituals.

Div
12-21-2006, 03:45 PM
There aren't Christian rituals in the holiday as far as I know. The tree's were a pagan thing, and theres nothing in the bible about putting presents in stockings and leaving cookies and milk out by your fireplace. Sure some people think of the nativity scene, but that's generally overlooked in the wide scope of the public. (you see more snowmen than mangers)

ChildrenofSodom
12-21-2006, 06:00 PM
There aren't Christian rituals in the holiday as far as I know. The tree's were a pagan thing, and theres nothing in the bible about putting presents in stockings and leaving cookies and milk out by your fireplace. Sure some people think of the nativity scene, but that's generally overlooked in the wide scope of the public. (you see more snowmen than mangers)

you live in New Jersey.

MetalDrummer888
12-24-2006, 01:38 PM
There aren't Christian rituals in the holiday as far as I know. The tree's were a pagan thing, and theres nothing in the bible about putting presents in stockings and leaving cookies and milk out by your fireplace. Sure some people think of the nativity scene, but that's generally overlooked in the wide scope of the public. (you see more snowmen than mangers)

zomg christmas is satan's holiday :thelaw:

Div
12-24-2006, 01:53 PM
zomg christmas is satan's holiday :thelaw:

Damn right it is :allan:

http://www.landoverbaptist.org/subjectarchive/christmas.html

MetalDrummer888
12-24-2006, 01:59 PM
Damn right it is :allan:

http://www.landoverbaptist.org/subjectarchive/christmas.html

wait . . . that's a joke right?

Div
12-24-2006, 02:04 PM
wait . . . that's a joke right?

yes :)

MetalDrummer888
12-24-2006, 02:09 PM
yes :)

wow i was worried for a second . . . then i saw some of the banners and realized there was no way anybody could take that seriously :lol:

ChildrenofSodom
12-24-2006, 04:47 PM
Damn right it is :allan:

http://www.landoverbaptist.org/subjectarchive/christmas.html

I have an aunt and uncle like that. Their kids are homeschooled (then went to homeschool kid college), they got sex ed banned at their city's school, and my uncle divorced his other wife because she was fat...:lol: