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Jochen
05-17-2014, 02:34 PM
At Slayer last night, a flyer was handed out with this...

Machine Head
Children of Bodom
Epica
Battlecross

October 21st
The Rave, Milwaukee, WI

InFlamesOfBirchmen
05-17-2014, 04:27 PM
Well that's....an odd lineup.

adamclark52
05-17-2014, 04:39 PM
Very odd. I can see Machine Head with Battlecross and COB with Epica but all four together? Maybe even COB with Machine Head and Battlecross. Epica are just the odd band here.

Regardless, if it is a tour it'll just be another year where I don't see Battlecross eight times (I'd show up late;)).

justinm4bama
05-17-2014, 05:34 PM
Interesting. I would go but would this go to venues that hold more than 1,500 people?

Chris_M_S
05-17-2014, 07:26 PM
3/4 of a Mayhem 2013 reunion!

AnthG
05-17-2014, 07:59 PM
Interesting. I would go but would this go to venues that hold more than 1,500 people?

Probably in the 1,000-2,000 range in the big cities.

dcmetal108
05-17-2014, 11:07 PM
I can dig.

DementedX14
05-18-2014, 07:50 AM
Looking forward to this with the exception of Battlecross. :barf:

mastodon421
05-18-2014, 07:55 AM
Sounds good to me save for Epica.

Epidemic Reign
05-18-2014, 08:24 AM
Very odd. I can see Machine Head with Battlecross and COB with Epica but all four together? Maybe even COB with Machine Head and Battlecross. Epica are just the odd band here.

I could see Epica touring with COB, and I could see Battlecross jumping onto any tour they can get their paws on.

It's just Epica + Machine Head that really doesn't add up here.

Christen
05-18-2014, 12:37 PM
I'd go to this and have a lot of fun. I for one actually enjoy Battlecross.

mattlion
05-18-2014, 04:29 PM
Battlecross is the new Mutiny Within or Blackguard, they'll be a part of any tour they can get. Have to respect that.

This would be a very interesting run for Epica - they are a bit heavier than most of the "ladymetal" bands (death vocals, heavier parts of some songs) but I've gotta admit I don't know how the average Machine Head fan would respond to them.

Then again, sometimes the average Machine Head fan doesn't respond well to Machine Head if they're doing one of those sets where they think they're Dream Theater and play all of their 10-minute songs at the expense of earlier classics.

MPF
05-18-2014, 04:50 PM
I still find it so very odd we live in an era where people don't like bands for the sole reason that they tour a lot.

Funny enough, I've only seen Battlecross at two shows.

This looks like a great tour, fucked up, but great tour.

hellawaits77ny
05-18-2014, 05:16 PM
I still find it so very odd we live in an era where people don't like bands for the sole reason that they tour a lot.
.

This.

mastodon421
05-18-2014, 05:25 PM
The hate for Battlecross is fucking stupid. Like MPF said, people only seem to give them shit because they tour frequently. They keep getting better live and are some of the most genuine dudes in the entire scene.

slapguitarer
05-18-2014, 05:30 PM
Yeah, Battlecross are pretty much the best band in recent years that could be categorized as "New Wave Of American Heavy Metal". they're solid live.

InFlamesOfBirchmen
05-19-2014, 08:07 AM
If anything their constant touring makes me like them more. These guys work harder than a lot of people give them credit for, and though I've only seen them once, I liked what I saw.

AnthG
05-19-2014, 08:13 AM
I thought they were decent enough on the Hatebreed tour last fall.

anomynous
05-19-2014, 08:29 AM
They're not horrible, but they hop on every tour they can, even if it doesn't make sense.



cough protest the hero cough

Wrecking Crew
05-19-2014, 08:33 AM
Epica headlined their last tour and maybe even the tour before that. I would be surprised to see them take a support slot since they seem to be selling even more with their latest album.

Epidemic Reign
05-19-2014, 08:56 AM
Epica headlined their last tour and maybe even the tour before that. I would be surprised to see them take a support slot since they seem to be selling even more with their latest album.

This is the part that's really screwy. It's not just that the mix is strange, it's the fact that three of these bands are headliners.

I mean, I can see one Euro headliner opening for Machine Head, but TWO Euro bands that consistently headline their own tours with no problem? Very odd.

adamclark52
05-19-2014, 08:57 AM
If you ever listen to Sirius XM you'd get my dislike towards Battlscross. They get played A LOT. The countdown means nothing but them being "ranked" ahead of other more established, better bands is ridiculous. I thi.k they're buddies with the one DJ/program manager so the constant pushing is unjustified and ridiculous. They're promoted as a big deal on that station and since they're always lowest billed on any tour it's just not true. I've heard them a lot in the last two and a half years and I'm just sick of them.

Wrecking Crew
05-19-2014, 09:04 AM
If you ever listen to Sirius XM you'd get my dislike towards Battlscross. They get played A LOT. I thi.k they're buddies with the one DJ/program manager so the constant pushing is unjustified and ridiculous. They're promoted as a big deal on that station and since they're always lowest billed on any tour it's just not true. I've heard them a lot in the last two and a half years and I'm just sick of them.

Are you talking about Jose, man I wish he would get fired from Sirius XM. I change the channel whenever I hear his voice. That channel could be so much better than it is, that guy is annoying as hell.

Epidemic Reign
05-19-2014, 09:07 AM
I don't think anyone hates Battlecross (or Blackguard, or Mutiny Within for that matter) JUST BECAUSE they tour too much. I think it's more because they're not very good... and they tour too much.

Granted that's an opinion, obviously, but I think it's a safe bet that when someone bitches about certain bands getting tacked onto too many tours, what they're really trying to say is that the band sucks. In their own opinion.

AnthG
05-19-2014, 09:18 AM
Jose Mangin is not much worse than your typical radio host. Those are the types of guys radio stations want. Who the fuck wants to listen to some boring monotone asshole? Jose can get annoying at times, but he's not much worse than some of the other douchebags they have on that channel. And i'll still listen to him over Jason Ellis any day (even though he's on Faction, or was. Haven't had Sirius in over a year), which isn't a very high bar but whatever.

adamclark52
05-19-2014, 09:22 AM
Are you talking about Jose, man I wish he would get fired from Sirius XM. I change the channel whenever I hear his voice. That channel could be so much better than it is, that guy is annoying as hell.

Yup, the hyperactive little masturbating monkey himself.

Epidemic Reign
05-19-2014, 09:28 AM
Epica headlined their last tour and maybe even the tour before that. I would be surprised to see them take a support slot since they seem to be selling even more with their latest album.

They headlined their last three tours here for sure. Can't vouch for anything before that.

Epidemic Reign
05-19-2014, 11:39 PM
In all honestly I don't wanna be "that guy".

But seriously.

I think Epica (and furthermore COB) will stomp the shit out of Rob Flynn and his whiney fucking teen-angsty douchebag dipshit nu-metalcore.

Steev
05-20-2014, 04:26 AM
In all honestly I don't wanna be "that guy".

But seriously.

I think Epica (and furthermore COB) will stomp the shit out of Rob Flynn and his whiney fucking teen-angsty douchebag dipshit nu-metalcore.

So basically you haven't listened to anything past 1999?

adamclark52
05-20-2014, 07:08 AM
Jose Mangin is not much worse than your typical radio host. Those are the types of guys radio stations want. Who the fuck wants to listen to some boring monotone asshole? Jose can get annoying at times, but he's not much worse than some of the other douchebags they have on that channel. And i'll still listen to him over Jason Ellis any day (even though he's on Faction, or was. Haven't had Sirius in over a year), which isn't a very high bar but whatever.

Pretty much this. I can't think of many radio personalities I DONT want to strangle. (being from Toronto, I'd imagine you know some of the ones I really hate).

AnthG
05-20-2014, 07:41 AM
Only one I can think of off the top of my head is Dean Blundell, who I don't find as annoying so much as just ridiculously overrated.

adamclark52
05-20-2014, 08:17 AM
Only one I can think of off the top of my head is Dean Blundell, who I don't find as annoying so much as just ridiculously overrated.

Josie Dye, Dave Bookman, that other girl on the Edge. Pretty much every Edge personality.

AnthG
05-20-2014, 08:21 AM
It's been so long since i've listened to the Edge, but I remember not minding Josie Dye's on-air personality. She just has terrible taste in music. A few years back I was listening to her picks of the week or month or year or whatever and was just thinking "Ugh, why?"

Don't listen to the Edge. It's bad for your health.

anomynous
05-20-2014, 09:29 AM
So basically you haven't listened to anything past 1999?

All he needs to know is what subgenre is hot at the time, and that's what it'll sound like

Epidemic Reign
05-20-2014, 11:31 AM
So basically you haven't listened to anything past 1999?

For the record I was quite drunk when I posted that. But beforehand I was holding it in. I'm glad I let it out :)

No, this applies to the new stuff too.

El Gordo
05-20-2014, 03:40 PM
For the record I was quite drunk when I posted that. But beforehand I was holding it in. I'm glad I let it out :)

No, this applies to the new stuff too.

Drunk or not, your description of Machine Head was spot-on, regardless of the era.

jhdeity
05-20-2014, 09:28 PM
In all honestly I don't wanna be "that guy".

But seriously.

I think Epica (and furthermore COB) will stomp the shit out of Rob Flynn and his whiney fucking teen-angsty douchebag dipshit nu-metalcore.

So this muppet shit....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oePrtEMmX9Y

is better than this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhM21gbk6Zs

DAFUQ?

MPF
05-20-2014, 09:42 PM
So this muppet shit....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oePrtEMmX9Y

is better than this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhM21gbk6Zs

DAFUQ?

Honestly Unto The Locaust wasn't THAT good, and Epica rules.

So Yes, yes it will!

kalfitegrdan
05-21-2014, 12:08 AM
So this muppet shit....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oePrtEMmX9Y

is better than this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhM21gbk6Zs

DAFUQ?

Yes.

I didn't even listen to the Epica song, but that Machine Head album was terrible.

Epidemic Reign
05-21-2014, 02:46 AM
So this muppet shit....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oePrtEMmX9Y

is better than this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhM21gbk6Zs

DAFUQ?

That was neither the best Epica track nor the best Machine Head track you could have selected for comparison. In any event, however, yes. Epica blows MH out of the water by leagues.

MetalIsArt
05-21-2014, 03:30 AM
Epica deserves to finally make it big.

She's not only beautiful, her voice is the best in the gothic metal genre, apart from Anneke Van Giersbergen.

jhdeity
05-21-2014, 06:41 AM
That was the 1st epica song that came up on you tube. Funny thing is I thought I was going to like it until the theatrical vocals started then I couldn't click X fast enough. Sounded like Oscar the Grouch and Miss Piggy singing a duet. To each his own I guess...

ravenheart
05-21-2014, 06:53 AM
Honestly, once you've had this experience at an Epica show, you really don't need to see them again:

http://www.jukeboxmetal.com/wp-content/uploads/epica270609-10.jpg

adamclark52
05-21-2014, 07:11 AM
Honestly, once you've had this experience at an Epica show, you really don't need to see them again:

http://www.jukeboxmetal.com/wp-content/uploads/epica270609-10.jpg

Maybe Machine Head fans would be more accepting towards Epica than we thought?

dcmetal108
05-21-2014, 08:28 AM
Maybe Machine Head fans would be more accepting towards Epica than we thought?

I don't think so because there is no way to fit the word fucking between the letters in Epica so they couldn't have that fancy chant like "Machine Fucking Head"

adamclark52
05-21-2014, 09:14 AM
I don't think so because there is no way to fit the word fucking between the letters in Epica so they couldn't have that fancy chant like "Machine Fucking Head"

But they'll have no problem fitting the work "fucking" in the line "show your tits".

300%_Density
05-21-2014, 09:25 AM
But they'll have no problem fitting the work "fucking" in the line "show your tits".

Favorite post of the day.

dcmetal108
05-21-2014, 09:30 AM
But they'll have no problem fitting the work "fucking" in the line "show your tits".

And we have found our post of the year!

Wrecking Crew
05-21-2014, 09:37 AM
I hope this tour doesn't happen, I want Epica to headline although I would be OK with seeing CoB too. I want as much of this as I can get.

http://i.imgur.com/l3tUaZZ.jpg

I like most of Epica's music but admittedly I would probably go see a concert of Simone reading the phone book.

MetalIsArt
05-21-2014, 09:48 AM
Honestly, once you've had this experience at an Epica show, you really don't need to see them again:

http://www.jukeboxmetal.com/wp-content/uploads/epica270609-10.jpg

So, you can die in peace now, ;)

http://i.imgur.com/45C7Oj0.jpg

John The Drummer
05-21-2014, 10:01 AM
I still find it so very odd we live in an era where people don't like bands for the sole reason that they tour a lot.

Funny enough, I've only seen Battlecross at two shows.



I've never even seen them, nor have any idea of how they sound, nor think they even come here very much :lol: . Must be a Midwest-East Coast thing.

Epidemic Reign
05-21-2014, 10:51 PM
I've never even seen them, nor have any idea of how they sound, nor think they even come here very much :lol: . Must be a Midwest-East Coast thing.

I saw them once... the Amon Amarth tour earlier this year I think it was... and I have both of their albums. They're not terrible, but I find them kind of boring. Nothing in their music stands out to me.

anomynous
05-23-2014, 01:46 PM
Are you talking about Jose, man I wish he would get fired from Sirius XM. I change the channel whenever I hear his voice. That channel could be so much better than it is, that guy is annoying as hell.

I assume it's the guy in this:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10203070932048361&set=vb.125487745611&type=2&theater



tl;dl: They're releasing a cover of War Ensemble. Also "a big fall tour"

adamclark52
05-23-2014, 02:12 PM
I assume it's the guy in this:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10203070932048361&set=vb.125487745611&type=2&theater



tl;dl: They're releasing a cover of War Ensemble. Also "a big fall tour"

...woo-hoo...


And yeah, that's him.

Bengals279
05-23-2014, 02:22 PM
I assume it's the guy in this:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10203070932048361&set=vb.125487745611&type=2&theater



tl;dl: They're releasing a cover of War Ensemble. Also "a big fall tour"

I hate Jose Mangin. His voice is annoying as hell.

adamclark52
05-23-2014, 02:31 PM
I don't understand why someone photoshopped a stripper into this picture of him watching Panteras third DVD?

http://gunshyassassin.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/5844311794_d85e8397c5_z.jpg

Steev
05-26-2014, 06:09 AM
So can someone scan the flyer? Kinda feel like that would've happened by now


Also sites are reporting it will be this tour http://www.revolutionsocietytour.com

slapguitarer
05-26-2014, 06:24 AM
Shit, page 5 of this thread is thirsty as fuck

DisposableJustice
05-26-2014, 02:46 PM
For Metal Heads by Metal Head

Sounds like a GI Joe villian

Steev
06-06-2014, 09:59 AM
Well just heard from a promotor whose booking a fall metal festival that they couldn't get Battlecross due to them touring then with Machine Head

Wrecking Crew
06-06-2014, 10:29 AM
Well just heard from a promotor whose booking a fall metal festival that they couldn't get Battlecross due to them touring then with Machine Head

I would like to know what's going on with Epica, a sticker on their new CD said 2014 Fall North American Tour would be happening but still nothing has been announced. They even announced a Winter European tour already.

dcmetal108
06-06-2014, 11:38 AM
I'd really like to know what size venue this is booking at.

MH and COB can both sell out HOB here by themselves so I wonder if they'll do Aragon Ballroom (same play LOG and Slayer play)

AnthG
06-06-2014, 01:04 PM
I would assume a lot of CoB and MH fans cross over, so I'm not sure if a bigger venue would necessarily be automatic.

DementedX14
06-06-2014, 07:40 PM
I'd really like to know what size venue this is booking at.

MH and COB can both sell out HOB here by themselves so I wonder if they'll do Aragon Ballroom (same play LOG and Slayer play)

The vic or riv most likely.

dcmetal108
06-06-2014, 10:38 PM
The vic or riv most likely.

Riv makes more sense, Vic is almost too small for this plus their odd floor layout doesn't bode well for a metal show I'd imagine.

DementedX14
06-22-2014, 03:17 PM
Any updates?:confused:

Jochen
06-23-2014, 03:34 AM
I should've done this sooner...

http://s9.postimg.org/uel0jky3f/mhcob.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/uel0jky3f/)

PVH5150
06-23-2014, 09:56 AM
October 17th at the Palladium. Night #1 of Rock N Shock.

coltongsmith
07-01-2014, 02:59 AM
According to the Facebook page for this tour, all bands and dates will be announced on July 14th

Nater
07-01-2014, 05:33 AM
October 17th at the Palladium. Night #1 of Rock N Shock.

Schweet

Steev
07-17-2014, 10:12 AM
10/04 Denver, CO – Summit Music Hall
10/06 Dallas, TX – House of Blues
10/07 Houston, TX – House Of Blues
10/09 Orlando, FL – Hard Rock Live
10/10 Atlanta, GA – Masquerade
10/11 Silver Spring, MD – Fillmore
10/12 Philadelphia, PA – The Electric Factory
10/14 Toronto, ON – Sound Academy
10/15 Montreal, QC – Metropolis
10/16 New York, NY – Terminal5
10/17 Worcester, MA – Palladium
10/18 Cleveland, OH – Agora Ballroom
10/20 Chicago, IL – Concord Music Hall
10/21 Milwaukee, WI – The Rave
10/22 Minneapolis, MN – Skyway Theater
10/24 Saskatoon, SK – O’Brian’s Event Centre
10/26 Edmonton, AB – Shaw Conference Centre
10/28 Vancouver, BC – Vogue Theatre
10/29 Seattle, WA – Showbox Sodo
10/31 Oakland, CA – The Fox Theater
11/01 Los Angeles, CA – Hollywood Palladium

DisposableJustice
07-17-2014, 10:35 AM
10/04 Denver, CO – Summit Music Hall
10/06 Dallas, TX – House of Blues
10/07 Houston, TX – House Of Blues
10/09 Orlando, FL – Hard Rock Live
10/10 Atlanta, GA – Masquerade
10/11 Silver Spring, MD – Fillmore
10/12 Philadelphia, PA – The Electric Factory
10/14 Toronto, ON – Sound Academy
10/15 Montreal, QC – Metropolis
10/16 New York, NY – Terminal5
10/17 Worcester, MA – Palladium
10/18 Cleveland, OH – Agora Ballroom
10/20 Chicago, IL – Concord Music Hall
10/21 Milwaukee, WI – The Rave
10/22 Minneapolis, MN – Skyway Theater
10/24 Saskatoon, SK – O’Brian’s Event Centre
10/26 Edmonton, AB – Shaw Conference Centre
10/28 Vancouver, BC – Vogue Theatre
10/29 Seattle, WA – Showbox Sodo
10/31 Oakland, CA – The Fox Theater
11/01 Los Angeles, CA – Hollywood Palladium

Nice I'll consider the Denver date

Steev
07-17-2014, 11:14 AM
I'm shocked at the Philly venue. Granted Bodom has been there a few times(even headlining in 2008, since they've done smaller venues) but MH has never headlined a room that big in venue. They've basically played the same venue(and at least once a smaller one) since 1997. Ambitious move booking this, then again over the years they've booked other metal tours and if sales were light they'd bump it to a smaller club.

AnthG
07-17-2014, 11:54 AM
STOP FUCKING PLAYING THE SOUND ACADEMY!! That shitty venue needs to die and go out of business. Ugghh this is too good of a tour to miss though and I haven't seen MH or Bodom on their current album cycles yet.

Oh wait i'm off work that week. But Arkham Knight comes out that day too. and the venue still sucks.

PVH5150
07-17-2014, 12:04 PM
STOP FUCKING PLAYING THE SOUND ACADEMY!! That shitty venue needs to die and go out of business.

My sentiments exactly about The Palladium.

Christen
07-17-2014, 12:13 PM
Aww man, I may have to go.

mastodon421
07-17-2014, 02:04 PM
My sentiments exactly about The Palladium.

:tp:

PowerMaiden
07-18-2014, 08:47 AM
I'm there for Bodom for sure.


Cheers !
PowerMaiden

Wrecking Crew
07-21-2014, 07:43 AM
Hopefully Epica will be back next year with their own tour, can't see traveling for a show where I can't imagine they'll get more than 50 minutes.

dcmetal108
07-21-2014, 08:35 AM
Hopefully Epica will be back next year with their own tour, can't see traveling for a show where I can't imagine they'll get more than 50 minutes.

I'm thinking more like 30-35.

TonyD
07-22-2014, 12:30 AM
I might have thought about going to this for high school's sake, but I'm not spending Halloween in Oakland.

Maideneer
07-25-2014, 07:15 AM
Sorry, dupe post.

anomynous
07-26-2014, 03:12 PM
Supposedly


A) Those dates are fake

And

B) Black Crown Initiate is on the tour

300%_Density
07-26-2014, 03:54 PM
On the MH Twitter the Halloween date is accurate at least.

dcmetal108
07-26-2014, 11:16 PM
Supposedly


A) Those dates are fake

And

B) Black Crown Initiate is on the tour

I was gonna say I went to go grab a ticket for my girlfriend and I and the venue has nothing posted.

MPF
07-27-2014, 10:25 AM
Supposedly


A) Those dates are fake

And

B) Black Crown Initiate is on the tour

Maybe they are replacing Battlecross? 5 bands on a tour like this is quite excessive.

I hope it still comes to Minnesota.

anomynous
07-27-2014, 11:20 AM
I'm just going off an article on metal insider

mastodon421
07-27-2014, 11:47 AM
Battlecross is still on this tour. They just posted about the Oakland Halloween show on Facebook yesterday.

PVH5150
07-27-2014, 04:42 PM
Worcester is a definite seeing as it was the first one announced nearly a month ago.

Also, Machine Head is doing a warmup show in Spokane at the Knitting Factory on October 2nd.

Steev
07-27-2014, 06:21 PM
Bandsintown app has Philly up, but occasionally that's wrong

Maideneer
07-28-2014, 06:18 AM
Dates should be right. Orlando, Atlanta, Philly and Oakland are on Ticketmaster now.

anomynous
07-28-2014, 06:47 AM
Yup, just announced.


Metal Insider was totally wrong

PVH5150
07-28-2014, 07:08 AM
10/04 Denver, CO – Summit Music Hall
10/06 Dallas, TX – House of Blues
10/07 Houston, TX – House Of Blues
10/09 Orlando, FL – Hard Rock Live
10/10 Atlanta, GA – Masquerade
10/11 Silver Spring, MD – Fillmore
10/12 Philadelphia, PA – The Electric Factory
10/14 Toronto, ON – Sound Academy
10/15 Montreal, QC – Metropolis
10/16 New York, NY – Terminal5
10/17 Worcester, MA – Palladium
10/18 Cleveland, OH – Agora Ballroom
10/20 Chicago, IL – Concord Music Hall
10/21 Milwaukee, WI – The Rave
10/22 Minneapolis, MN – Skyway Theater
10/24 Saskatoon, SK – O’Brian’s Event Centre
10/26 Edmonton, AB – Shaw Conference Centre
10/28 Vancouver, BC – Vogue Theatre
10/29 Seattle, WA – Showbox Sodo
10/31 Oakland, CA – The Fox Theater
11/01 Los Angeles, CA – Hollywood Palladium

Only difference is the official announcement lists the Silver Spring date as TBA.

ezeblazin
07-28-2014, 07:50 AM
Only difference is the official announcement lists the Silver Spring date as TBA.


I wonder why? Hopefully the show stays at the Fillmore or at least somewhere in DC or Baltimore

ezeblazin
08-11-2014, 06:48 AM
Well it looks like the reason they didn't announce the Fillmore Silver Spring is because they are combining tours. The Black Dahlia murder and Suicide Silence added.

http://concerts.livenation.com/event/15004D09F1D322A9