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adamclark52
04-05-2014, 07:11 AM
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Like I said in my top twenty-five video game thread, Final Fantasy has been my favorite game series for well over twenty years. But each game is different enough that I couldn't induct the series as a whole. There are really good games with aspects I hate, and really bad games with aspects I love. Some I've played two dozen times on different platforms. Some I played once and was done with them. But I always play them. I always base whatever system I buy on one thing: which one is releasing Final Fantasy games.

I first discovered Final Fantasy in 1991 when my friend Fred rented Final Fantasy II (which was the North American title for Final Fantasy IV) for Super Nintendo. I'd played video games before but in those days of 8-bit games the main focus was action. I 'd never seen a game with characters that spoke with more than a sentence. Or a world that wasn't just "go from left to right". I was in awe of Final Fantasy II. Fred rented it every Friday for a month straight and I just sat and watched the story unfold. Even after we were done he moved on but I couldn't stop thinking about that game. So I got a paper route and saved every penny for six months just so I could buy a Super Nintendo and that game. It's been downhill since then. I've played a thousand video games since then, but over twenty years later the series still remains my favorite and only a few games have ever topped Final Fantasy II.

I've decided to focus on the main series of games, and then follow them up with any spin-offs. The reason is I've played most of the main series and very little beyond that. So if I'd gone in chronological order like I'd originally intended there'd have been a lot of entries towards the end of this thread that would consist of "I haven’t played this game, but I've heard it ______" (usually followed up with “sucks”). I’m also not going to include the Prelude song as my favorite song in any game because it’s almost always the best song. And there's a shit-ton of other good songs on every other soundtrack. So I’ll link to the various versions of the Prelude and then link to a different “best” song too. Click on the box art to link to the Prelude for each game.

I guess I'll dedicate this thread to John the Drummer, since he's the one who said he'd be interested in participating. I remember one other person here being a fan of the series but I'm sure there's a few more.

And yeah, this is another videogame thread. Big fucking deal.

adamclark52
04-05-2014, 07:21 AM
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Final Fantasy
Japanese Release Date: December 18th, 1987
North American Release Date: July 12th, 1990
Original Platform: Nintendo Entertainment System
Re-released on: Sony Playstation, Game Boy Advance, Mobile Phone, Playstation Portable

So it all started here. This was a pretty basic game that certainly had its flaws. It seemed like nine times out of ten your attack spells missed, so what was the point of even using magic? And that was if your Black Mage even lived long enough to cast it. Then there was the Magic Point system of the game. Later games had a set amount of Magic Points for every spell. Lower level spells cost less MP; higher level spells (obviously) cost more. But in this game each level of spells had eight casts, that was it. That was just another needle-in-the-haystack to the games incredible difficulty. All I have to type is the words “Marsh Cave” any anyone who ever played this game will cringe. And if you even made it out of the Marsh Cave the game didn’t let up after that. Weak ass characters, constant enemy encounters, only being able to hold sixteen items, grinding for hours to get one level. Sometimes I wonder how people were even able to play this game. I’ll admit that on NES I had to play with a Game Genie. The later re-release on Playstation had an “EASY” option that (unfortunately) was the polar opposite of the original NES releases difficulty level. It was too damn easy. Like, not even breaking a sweat at the final boss easy. Too bad they didn’t release a version with, I don’t know, NORMAL DIFFICULTY!

But there is a lot to love about this game and it set the groundwork for the whole series to come. Your basic magic’s were set-up on this game and they’re still there some twenty-five years later. Items, classes and the basics of dungeons crawling were all laid out here and improved on over the years. And the famous Prelude music made its debut in this game, and has been used in every game I know of save Final Fantasy XIII. It’s a very early NES title that was made on a shoestring budget by a company that was close to going bust. What more could you expect? This game wins just on sheer nostalgia.

It’s probably been re-released more than any other entry in the series and on more platforms. The original NES version has the charm factor but I still recommend the Playstation re-release because it isn’t as buggy. And it had some cosmetic improvements like showing treasure chests as open after you'd opened them (rather than always appearing closed and having the text "empty" appear whenever you went for a chest you'd already opened).

Favorite Moment: when your characters upgrade classes
Best Song: Temple of Fiends (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW56QbT0lrM)
Coolest Character: Garland, who doesn’t love Garland?
Lamest Character: the Red Mage
Average Completion Time: 10 - 15 hours
Gameplay demo: the final battle with Chaos (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tx0c7jXbA_E)
Rating: 4 out of 5

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Final Boss: Chaos

adamclark52
04-05-2014, 07:59 PM
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Final Fantasy II
Japanese Release Date: December 17th, 1988
North American Release Date: April 8th, 2003
Original Platform: Nintendo Entertainment System
Rereleased on: Sony Playstation, Game Boy Advance, Mobile Phone, Playstation Portable

This game really did improve on the original in many ways. The story was structured in a way that was a lot easier to follow than the first game. And characters seemed to have a purpose. The problem with this game is what everyone will tell you. The leveling system is a total mess. If you want higher defense or hit points; get hit. If you want strength stats; use physical attacks. You want strong cure magic; cast cure. It sounds easy but it’s frustrating and totally random. I’ve spent hours trying to grind stats to end up getting nothing, and then gotten a ton of stats in a matter of minutes at random. It takes any enjoyment out of the game. The game went unreleased in North America for sixteen years and I’ve only played the Playstation version, which I’m sure cleaned things up quite a bit. I can only imagine how much this game sucks on a buggy, crashing NES. This is the only Final Fantasy I ever started and never finished. Try this one if you want but it’s as bad as any reviews you read say it is.

Favorite Moment: those rare times you actually gain hit points
Best Song: the Main Theme/Overworld (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xktPLOC6e6Y)
Gameplay Demo: just walking around some castle (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY76nm0FaPY)
Rating: 1 out of 5 (but it would be a 3 or 3.5 if it wasn’t for the terrible leveling design)

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Final Boss: the Emperor

JRA
04-05-2014, 08:04 PM
FF1 is non-Game Genie completable. ;) As long as you have a players guide.

adamclark52
04-05-2014, 08:07 PM
FF1 is non-Game Genie completable. ;) As long as you have a players guide.

The Game Genie code for that game was ridiculous. Three characters started out super-strong and gained levels and stats quickly. The forth (and sometimes another) started with 0 HP. So even a miss killed them. And they gained stats really slowly. But when you're eleven and had zero patience you had to do it.

Dextrimental
04-06-2014, 05:38 AM
I've completed both, Final Fantasy 2 is the bigger grind, but even back then you could see at least they were trying to make each game it's own thing. It only gets better from there though, thankfully.

John The Drummer
04-06-2014, 09:52 AM
Never played these two games, but really looking forward to this thread! I remember HEARING how difficult the first FF games were, which led me to stray away from them :D

Dextrimental
04-06-2014, 10:11 AM
Never played these two games, but really looking forward to this thread! I remember HEARING how difficult the first FF games were, which led me to stray away from them :D

I'd recommend them if you ever feel a bit burned out on modern video games - that's what I did. They're pretty radically different from modern games, and even just one session of them is good even just to give you a sense of reference for the series as a whole!

adamclark52
04-06-2014, 10:53 AM
Never played these two games, but really looking forward to this thread! I remember HEARING how difficult the first FF games were, which led me to stray away from them :D

If you have a PlayStation 1 get a collection called Final Fantasy Origins. It has the first and second games, but with better graphics, the ability to hold more than sixteen items and a few other improvements. they have two difficulty levels for the first game and I can't remember but they may have had two for the second game too. But on normal difficulty you get the same experience as the original NES version. And on easy it's still a great game, just too easy. FFII I can warn you about but I was warned for years and I still played it. I guess patience is the key to that game.

adamclark52
04-06-2014, 01:54 PM
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Final Fantasy Legend
Japanese Release Date: December 15th, 1989
North American Release Date: September 30th, 1990
Original Platform: Nintendo Game Boy

The first of the Game Boy Final Fantasy games. I’ve never played this game so I really can’t comment on it.

Gameplay demo: starting the quest (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ekVPP19whY)

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Final Boss: the Creator

mankvill
04-06-2014, 02:00 PM
I'm almost positive I have Final Fantasy Legend. If I remember correctly, it came out in the period where like the continuity between Japanese FF games and American FF games got all fucked up, so I don't even know if it's a proper FF game or not.

adamclark52
04-06-2014, 02:01 PM
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Final Fantasy III
Japanese Release Date: April 27th, 1990
North American Release Date: November 14th, 2006
Original Platform: Nintendo Entertainment System
Rereleased on: Nintendo DS, Playstation Portable, Mobile Phone

It took sixteen years for this game to get released in North America and another six years for me to play it. And it really wasn’t worth the twenty year wait. The big draw is the “job” system made its debut in this game. And the job system is a staple in a lot of the later games. What “job” means is “class”. If you want “character A” to be a magic user make them a white/black/time mage. If you want “character B” to be a strong physical fighter make them a Knight or a Dragoon. You could do that in the original Final Fantasy but it was one shot at the beginning of the game and you were stuck with it. In this game you could change your characters into one of twenty or so different jobs whenever you felt like it and whenever it suited your needs. But aside from that there wasn’t too much to get excited about with this game. The leveling system was at least back to "normal" after Final Fantasy II's mess up. I’ve only ever played the DS port and I’m sure it cleaned up quite a bit of the original NES version.

Favorite Moment: the “dark world” is pretty cool
Coolest Character Class: Dragoon
Lamest Character Class: Bard
Gameplay Demo: starting the quest (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tau5G756MEk)
Rating: 2.5 out of 5

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Final Boss: the Cloud of Darkness

adamclark52
04-07-2014, 10:35 AM
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Final Fantasy Legend II
Japanese Release Date: December 14th, 1990
North American Release Date: November 1991
Original Platform: Nintendo Game Boy

I did play this Game Boy game. It was cool at the time but I’m sure if I was to play it today I’d be bored stiff. The story was decent and graphically it played and looked almost like a Dragon Quest game. But the big drawback was the weapons. Each weapon had a set number of uses. So you could only use them let’s say forty times before it disappeared from your inventory and you had to buy something new. That was dumb but not as frustrating as you may think. And stat building was almost as bad as Final Fantasy II. The only thing was it was completely random. You didn’t have to get hit to get hit points or use magic to gain magic power, it just randomly happened. So grinding was pointless. I can remember grinding for hours and getting nothing, then randomly gaining hit points in three straight battles then grinding for another hour and getting nothing. Fuck that. This is a decent game to play but lower you expectations.

Favorite Moment: beating Venus was pretty satisfying
Gameplay Demo: some guy doing a speed run of the whole game (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtyPxnzMHQQ)
Rating: 2 out of 5

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Final Boss: Arsenal

adamclark52
04-08-2014, 10:15 AM
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Final Fantasy Adventure
Japanese Release Date: June 8th, 1991
North American Release Date: November 1st, 1991
Original Platform: Nintendo Game Boy

I’ve never played this one but I’ve heard it was okay. It was set up more like a Legend of Zelda game. I wonder if this game just had the “Final Fantasy” name slapped on it to move units? I've also heard it's part of another series that's only been released in Japan but I can't confirm that right now.

Gameplay Demo: the first few minutes of the game (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JtRFdAiXAQ)

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Final Boss: Julius

adamclark52
04-08-2014, 10:24 AM
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Final Fantasy IV
Japanese Release Date: July 19th, 1991
North American Release Date: November 23rd, 1991
Original Platform: Super Nintendo
Re-released on: Sony Playstation, Game Boy Advance, Nintendo DS, Mobile Phone, Playstation Portable

This was number five in my top twenty five thread. I can’t really say anything more now than I did then. Here’s a link to that (http://www.metalsetlists.com/showpost.php?p=563200&postcount=59). I did play the DS re-release once and it was really terrible. The graphic “improvements” were brutal, around as bad as Final Fantasy VII. And the voice acting was terrible. It was during that game that I noticed that Final Fantasies always had horrid dialoged but it wasn’t as noticeable when you were just reading it. If you want to play this game play the original (duh) or the Playstation port, which was the exact same. There’s a version that has a new final dungeon (I think it’s the Game Boy Advance version) that would be worth playing as long as they didn’t fuck with the graphics.

Favorite Moment: the ending is great
Best Song: Tears of Sorrow (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3t_FtHNblk)
Coolest Character: Kain
Lamest Character: Edward
Average Completion Time: 20 hours
Gameplay Demo: the last boss sequence and ending (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5aAwfqTwvU)
Rating: 5 out of 5

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Final Boss: Zeromus

adamclark52
04-09-2014, 12:29 AM
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Final Fantasy Legend III
Japanese Release Date: December 13th, 1991
North American Release Date: August 1993
Original Platform: Nintendo Game Boy

I never played this game. I can remember really wanting to because it came out at a time when I was huge into Final Fantasy and there wasn't too much to choose from. But I either never found it or it was (probably) too expensive.

Gameplay Demo: some random part of the game that I have no idea about (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqzx1TSESPE&list=PLzK0kjhALUCYlGzjrP7bDYwTcqdOfG-V1)

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Final Boss: Xagor

mankvill
04-09-2014, 12:32 AM
Okay, Legend III is definitely the one I have.

adamclark52
04-09-2014, 12:37 AM
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Final Fantasy Mystic Quest
Japanese Release Date: September 19th, 1993
North American Release Date: October 5th, 1992
Original Platform: Super Nintendo

This game really is shit. I loved it when it came out (when I was twelve) because there weren’t many Final Fantasy games to choose from. So it was a case of “take what you get and be happy with it”. But even at the time I could even see through my clouded vision that there wasn’t much going on with this game. It was easy, linear, and juvenile. It didn’t even come out in Japan until a year after the North American release. And they made sure to call it ‘Final Fantasy “USA” Mystic Quest’. The developers don’t even talk about it. I’ll never play this game again but when I was twelve it was fun.

Favorite Moment: Alive Forest was actually kinda cool
Best Song: Spencers Place (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZJNljYtfB0&list=PL5BEBA343123C8FA7)
Coolest Character: Tristam
Lamest Character: the Hero
Average Completion Time: 15 hours
Gameplay Demo: the first few minutes of the game (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUmii0lpOEU)
Rating: 0.5 out of 5

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Final Boss: the Dark King

adamclark52
04-09-2014, 10:29 AM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-zPTyXW5EcSc/UMGCI9oF-CI/AAAAAAAAHSE/6vYuavBsF_g/s1600/FinalFantasyV_SuperFamicom_boxfront.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZreL5tnCZk)

Final Fantasy V
Japanese Release Date: December 6th, 1992
North American Release Date: October 5th, 1999
Original Platform: Super Nintendo
Rereleased on: Sony Playstation, Game Boy Advance, Mobile Phone

This game was really good but had the misfortune of being sandwiched between two of the best the series ever released. And it also went unreleased outside of Japan for six years. Of all the early Final Fantasies that went unreleased in North America this is far and away the best one. If you liked Final Fantasy IV or VI there's really no reason not to like this game. It has the same art and music styling as IV but the job system of Final Fantasy III. The story was okay, not as epic and grandeur as IV and VI but fun nonetheless. The only real problem I have with this game is that a bug in the North American PlayStation release prevents it from being playable on a PlayStation 3 (you can't save, pretty important). And since I don't have an original PlayStation or memory card I can't play it on my PlayStation 2. So I really would love to play this game again but I straight up can't.

If you're interested in this game look for a set called Final Fantasy Anthology that was released in 1999. You get this game as well as a direct port of the SNES version of Final Fantasy VI.

Favorite Moment: unfortunately it's been so long since I've played this game I can't remember
Best Song: Walking the Snowy Mountains (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-Fc23Ksh7I)
Gameplay Demo: very early part of the game (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnMwhWsl_kc)
Rating: 4 out of 5

[EDIT: November 9th, 2014]
Ever heard the phase “absence makes the heart grow fonder”? When I went back and replayed this game I had to force myself to pretend that the last twenty-two years hadn’t happened yet. I had to imagine a life before Lightning, before Tidus, before Cloud. Shit, I had to remember life before Terra and Locke. So I had to take myself back to a 1992 frame of mind, and it was really hard sometimes. I guess, if I can put myself back twenty-two years ago, this would still have been the second best Final Fantasy. That’s only because Final Fantasies VI through XIV hadn’t been released yet. It was definitely a step down from IV. Now, adamclark52 in 1992 would have jiazzed hard for this game (if he could, I don’t think I’d hit puberty yet). When this finally came out in North American in 1999 I jizzed hard for this game. But in 2014…

This was a hard game for me to enjoy. It encompassed a lot of traits of the series that I don’t like. Grinding is key in this game and it’s monotonous and extremely time consuming. I don’t mind if it takes a while to gain an ability but there were times when I’d grind for hours and barely get anything. It made even bothering to battle seem like a waste of my time. And battles were a-plenty in this game. This was up there with the original Final Fantasy were it seemed like every goddamn step I took I was battling another enemy. Battles weren’t hard per-se but so frequent. And magic points could be scare so battles just got hard by running out of resources.

A big thing for me in a Final Fantasy is music, sounds and story. Unfortunately this game fails on all three counts. The story is really shallow and boring. There’s really no reason to care. And I did pull a goofball and name my character "FukHed", so it was hard to take that serious too. But is that any better than his cannon name "Butz"?. The sound effects are brutal in a few ways. First, the port onto the PSone cut out all the mid-range frequencies and they sound like crap. And a lot of them are just fucking terrible. Like the dragons…sound… It happens at a few points in the game where it’s trying to be serious and I couldn’t help but laugh at how bad it was. And the music…dear god. It’s fucking awful and even worse there are only a couple of dozen tracks, which repeat over and over in the game. The graphics are fucking brutal too. You could say that it’s because it’s a twenty-two year old game but Final Fantasy IV came out a year and half before this and excelled in all three areas. There just wasn’t any work put into this game.

There is one shining ray of light in this game and it’s the job system. It’s pretty good but like I said a few paragraphs ago the abilities do take too long to build. I can remember grinding in this game when I played it the last time (in late-2000) and it took me as long to grind all my character abilities to max as it takes in other Final Fantasies to grind all my characters to level 99. I also remember in this game never getting my characters to level 99 because experience was so disjointed in this game. Some of the enemy designs were pretty good too but that can’t save a game.

I remembered this game being really good. But I played it before I’d even played Final Fantasy VIII. Back then I was more used to the 16-bit era Final Fantasy games so it fit right in with what I was playing. But the years have not been kind to this game. Playing it I was wondering what the hell I was remembering enjoying so much. Because I never enjoyed myself when I tired to play through it again. I went from having fond memories and ranking this in the top tier of the Final Fantasy nexus to not even being able to finish it because I was having such a miserable experience. I can't even say I let the last twenty-two years (or fourteen since I last played it) jade me. I've played a lot of the older Final Fantasies this year and my experiences have been nothing but good. This was just not fun; visually, aurally, mentally or physically.

If I can say anything nice about this game was a port to iOS or a hand-held system would be good for it.

Favorite Moment: I really don’t have one
Best Song: Reminiscence (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tktDczmSJ7s)
Coolest Character: Gilgamesh
Lamest Character: Hydra
Average Completion Time: I made it 17 hours before I had enough, and I think I was three-quarters of the way through
Gameplay Demo: very early part of the game (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnMwhWsl_kc)
Rating: 2 out of 5


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Final Boss: Neo Exdeath

John The Drummer
04-09-2014, 11:33 AM
I must be one of the very few who enjoyed the DS remake of IV (as noted on my top 30 games as well) :lol: . I agree though, the dialog was a bit cheesy at times, but I highly enjoyed the gameplay and story :D

and HOLY SHIT I totally remember seeing ads for Mystic Quest in Gamepro and Nintendo Power :eek: . Never knew what it was at the time, but the cover just looked SO AWESOME.,...

adamclark52
04-09-2014, 11:56 AM
I must be one of the very few who enjoyed the DS remake of IV (as noted on my top 30 games as well) :lol: . I agree though, the dialog was a bit cheesy at times, but I highly enjoyed the gameplay and story :D

and HOLY SHIT I totally remember seeing ads for Mystic Quest in Gamepro and Nintendo Power :eek: . Never knew what it was at the time, but the cover just looked SO AWESOME.,...

I only disliked the remake because the original was such a huge part of my younger years. So it's like adding new scenes to Star Wars, don't fuck with what I grew up with.

I won't tell you NOT to play Mystic Quest. It's just a huge step down from everything they've done.

adamclark52
04-10-2014, 05:21 PM
http://babysoftmurderhands.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Final-Fantasy-VI-Cover-Art-Japan-Super-Famicom.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELZfaOQCD4o)

Final Fantasy VI
Japanese Release Date: April 2nd, 1994
North American Release Date: October 11th, 1994
Original Platform: Super Nintendo
Rereleased on: Sony Playstation, Game Boy Advance, Mobile Phone

Again, this was in my top twenty-five and you can read that here (http://www.metalsetlists.com/showpost.php?p=562958&postcount=56).

Favorite Moment: Terra, Biggs and Wedges' walk towards Narsche during the intro credits (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OU1W7b4B2tY)
Best Song: Tina (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7RPY-oiDAQ)
Coolest Character: Shadow
Lamest Character: Umaro
Average Completion Time: 30 hours
Gameplay Demo: Locke's scenerio early on in the game (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbe0jOfIBLY)
Rating: 5 out of 5

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Final Boss: Kefka

adamclark52
04-10-2014, 05:37 PM
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Final Fantasy VII
Japanese Release Date: January 31st, 1997
North American Release Date: September 7th, 1997
Original Platform: Sony Playstation

I always say this: this is not my favorite Final Fantasy game. But it’s probably the best Final Fantasy game. It has everything you would want. The best aspects of all the combat and gameplay. A great story (probably the darkest story in the Final Fantasy universe). A great lead character and lead villain. Tifas’ boobs (http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110227161512/finalfantasy/images/9/94/Tifa-FFVIIArt.png). Great music. Enough secrets and side quests to eat up some of your life but not much of your life. If you were interested in Final Fantasy but overwhelmed by where to start I would say start right here. The only drawback is that graphically it looks TERRIBLE. But I’ve heard there’s going to be an HD remake so that would help it greatly.

Favorite Moment: even though it’s a very popular moment I have to say Sephiroth walking through the flames of Nibelheim (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlYQGpZlLPU)
Best Song: Who…Are You? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK84iaAjI2c)
Coolest Character: Sephiroth
Lamest Character: Cait Sith
Average Completion Time: 40 hours
Gameplay Demo: the intro up to the first boss (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD_GqlNtNjo)
Rating: 4 out of 5

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Final Boss: Safer-Sepiroth

John The Drummer
04-11-2014, 01:32 PM
[Favorite Moment: even though itís a very popular moment I have to say Sephiroth walking through the flames of Nibelheim (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlYQGpZlLPU)


So many classic video game moments in this game!

- Cloud realizing that he is a clone
- The flashbacks in the Nibelheim Reactor
- The library scene (all centered around Sephiroth)
- Summoning Nights of the Round for the first time
- Getting that Golden Chocobo
- Quadra Magic + Bahamut Zero
- Leaving Midgar

Just so great!

adamclark52
04-11-2014, 01:41 PM
So many classic video game moments in this game!

- Cloud realizing that he is a clone
- The flashbacks in the Nibelheim Reactor
- The library scene (all centered around Sephiroth)
- Summoning Nights of the Round for the first time
- Getting that Golden Chocobo
- Quadra Magic + Bahamut Zero
- Leaving Midgar

Just so great!

I like that you left out Aeriths death. That is probably the most iconic moment in Final Fantasy history but let's face it; Aerith sucked.

The game got so fucked up and dark once they got to Nibelhelm. If the graphics were enhanced it could be in the top five of all Final Fantasies but playing it just gave me a headache. As it is I'd say it's around seventh or eighth.

John The Drummer
04-11-2014, 02:47 PM
Oh yeah, I forgot about that :lol: . It was a very iconic moment for sure, but I never got too attachted to her character, especially since Tifa and Cloud had more of a history.

I can't wait to see your write up for VIII.

mankvill
04-11-2014, 02:49 PM
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adamclark52
04-11-2014, 04:53 PM
Oh yeah, I forgot about that :lol: . It was a very iconic moment for sure, but I never got too attachted to her character, especially since Tifa and Cloud had more of a history.

I can't wait to see your write up for VIII.

Honestly, don't get too excited.

Dextrimental
04-11-2014, 05:26 PM
I love Aerith's death, screw you guys!

FF VII's overall influence can't be overstated in my opinion. That game is still a standard in dynamic story-telling and character development in a video game. I think it, 6, 9 and 10 are the games that most get me emotional when I play them. They create such an atmosphere have such an identity to them that is just so distinctive and incredible.

DementedX14
04-11-2014, 05:32 PM
So many classic video game moments in this game!

- Cloud realizing that he is a clone
- The flashbacks in the Nibelheim Reactor
- The library scene (all centered around Sephiroth)
- Summoning Nights of the Round for the first time
- Getting that Golden Chocobo
- Quadra Magic + Bahamut Zero
- Leaving Midgar

Just so great!

My favorite Final Fantasy of all time. Music was amazing for every scene in the game.

adamclark52
04-11-2014, 05:43 PM
Her death was a great scene but I felt more "emotion" when Yang "died" in Final Fantasy IV.

adamclark52
04-12-2014, 01:15 PM
My favorite Final Fantasy of all time. Music was amazing for every scene in the game.

Yeah, it's really hard to decide which Final Fantasy's soundtrack is the best but there are some unforgettable songs in VII. Aside from Who...Are You? my other favorites include:
Mako Reactor
Heart of Anxiety
Shinra Company
Flowers Blooming in the Church
Under the Rotting Pizza
Infiltrating Shinra
On that Day, Five Years Ago
Electric De Chocobo
In Search of the Man in Black
Trail of Blood
Jenova
Mining Town
Valley of the Fallen Star
Lifestream
To Become a Great Warrior
One Chosen by the Planet
Beginning of the Nightmare
Cid's Theme
Forested Temple
Listen to the Cry of the Planet
Aerith's Theme
the Great Northern Cave
Who Am I...?
From the Edge of Despair
Open Your Heart
Judgment Day
One-Winged Angel

Of all the songs I think the Great Northern Cave (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oy76sZ7uQeQ) (which becomes the main world music on disc four) sums up the games tone. It takes the main melody that appeared in a lot of other sequences in the game and made it so bleak, dark, depressive and hopeless.

Another scene that deserves mention is when Red XIII learns of his fathers true fate (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnuyl4dDBIs). Red XIII was never a character in my main party and I never cared too much for him. But the finale to that whole sequence is heartbreaking.

adamclark52
04-12-2014, 01:28 PM
http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/scale_small/8/87790/1814645-box_fft.png

Final Fantasy Tactics
Japanese Release Date: June 20th, 1997
North American Release Date: January 28th, 1998
Original Platform: Sony Playstation
Rereleased on: Playstation Portable, iOS

Another one that was in my top twenty-five. Read about it here (http://www.metalsetlists.com/showpost.php?p=562218&postcount=28).

Favorite Moment: when you get Cidolfas Orlandu
Best Song: A True Hero (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFQHl-w1FCY)
Coolest Character: Cidolfas Orlandu (aka. Orlandu, TG Cid, Thunder God Cid)
Lamest Character: Olan (served his purpose story-line wise, but as a playable character he was useless)
Average Completion Time: 40 hours
Gameplay Demo: a random battle later in the game (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQX1fbRh6XQ)
Rating: 4.5 out of 5

http://lparchive.org/Final-Fantasy-Tactics/Update%2091/42-capture_21042011_150220.png
Final Boss: Altima

mankvill
04-12-2014, 02:00 PM
C'mon, the next one is the best FF game ever!

John The Drummer
04-12-2014, 04:16 PM
My favorite Final Fantasy of all time. Music was amazing for every scene in the game.

I should have just said that EVERYTHING about that game is memorable. Shit, even the first boss battle with Guard Scorpion is just classic! Or how about when you get to the Crater for the first time with all of those cloaked figures!? Simply classic.

Honestly, don't get too excited.

:lol: I don't understand all the hatred for it. Sure, not as classic as the others, but I thought the graphics, the world, the gameplay, the story were great! A bit TOO hard at times (was it.... Dollet? Way too hard for the beginning of a game) but I really loved it!

JRA
04-12-2014, 04:52 PM
Holy shit I missed a lot!

Best Song: Tears of Sorrow (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3t_FtHNblk)


I don't suppose that has anything to do with the fact that it sounds like Fade To Black does it?;)



Favorite Moment: Terra, Biggs and Wedges' walk towards Narsche during the intro credits (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OU1W7b4B2tY)

Seriously? The moment in the first 20 minutes?

adamclark52
04-12-2014, 05:02 PM
I don't suppose that has anything to do with the fact that it sounds like Fade To Black does it?;)




Seriously? The moment in the first 20 minutes?

1. Nope, I played FFIV for the first time in 1991. I never heard Fade to Black until 1996. I've pretty much been the socially awkward, manic depressive person I am today my whole life. And that song is just so fucking sad.

2. That being my favorite moment ties in to when I saw Distant Worlds: the Music of Final Fantasy in early 2012 (http://www.metalsetlists.com/showthread.php?t=19993&highlight=distant+worlds). It was a damn good show. But there was a lot I wasn't as familiar or fond of. But when they played that song and showed that video on the screen I was flooded with emotion and great memories.

adamclark52
04-12-2014, 05:21 PM
http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20060418024216/finalfantasy/images/5/5d/Final_Fantasy_8_ntsc-front.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1FZ3Tz7dDE)

Final Fantasy VIII
Japanese Release Date: February 11th, 1999
North American Release Date: September 9th, 1999
Original Platform: Sony Playstation

I really wish I had more of a memory of this game. I haven’t played it in close to twelve years and even at that I only ever played it once. I can remember that Quistas is stunning in the intro movie. I remember the graphics were a lot better than VII. The Junction system for magic really wasn’t that bad. And I really liked the Mooba characters and their tragic existence. I don’t remember Squall being as annoying as people make him out to be. I don’t remember the story being that bad. I really don’t remember hating it at all but for whatever reason I just never played it again. I think this is one of the if not the most hated Final Fantasy. I just can't remember why. This game had to follow up the most loved Final Fantasy ever so I’d imagine peoples vision was just clouded. Maybe because it did take the "fantasy" out of Final Fantasy and made it too realistic. But there was more of the "classic" series in this game than there was a few other titles. I just really need to play this game again some day. Maybe in a year I'll have and I'll update this thread.

I will give this game credit for one thing. The one time I played it was in early 2001. I had a lengthy run of unemployment that year from February to August. I started playing that game in (probably) late-April right when I was starting to hit rock-bottom. So FFVIII helped me get through what was probably one of the worst times of my life.

Favorite Moment: the battle at Balamb Garden
Best Song: the Spy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txs-MnMiP2w)
Favorite Characters: Moombas
Gameplay Demo: the Deep Sea Research Station (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwjBHVUsUqk)
Rating: 3(?) out of 5

[EDIT: June 2nd , 2014]
When I did this thread initially I found myself wanting to play a lot of these games I hadn't played in years. I remembered Final Fantasy VIII the least so I decided it deserved another shot. Like I said at first, I've heard nothing but bad press for this game since I played it near the beginning of 2001 but I didn't remember it being that bad. But I was wrong; it's really not that great.

The story plays out like a sort of teen soap opera. A bunch of kids at school, no parents no BORING OLD PEOPLE. Their clothes, the way they move, their motions all scream JAPANESE TREEN DRAMA. The actual cast of characters isn't too bad. Squall has gotten a lot if shit over the years but unlike a lot of the leads in a Final Fantasy I really liked him. He's really a lot like like...me. Not too friendly, not too talkative, focused on the task at hand. He does become a bit of a puss towards the end and it is kind of annoying that most of his dialogue is the thoughts in his head. But most times he’s thinking the same things I’m thinking while playing a Final Fantasy ("who cares”, “do it yourself”, “why me”, etc). The rest of the cast are rather inoffensive for the most part. Zell does come in like Poochie from the Simpsons but he’s a background character after that. And there are a lot of times you’d want to slap Selphie in the side of the head. But aside from a few times most of the party (aside from Squall and Riona) are just supporting characters. I think voice acting would have changed my hatred for a few characters (Zell, Selphie) but there is no voice action, so that saves game in that department. Seifer isn’t a bad antagonist. Some of the things he says to the other characters (Zell specifically) at the beginning of the game are actually really funny. And it’s been said before in many other places; but the parts with Laguna and his gang are so much better than the parts with the main cast. A full game with him would’ve been a lot better. But overall there was just too much story in this game. Too many breaks. Or let me be specific; too much talking. The story itself was paced okay but there was just so much dialogue to go through to get anywhere. By time it got to wherever it was going I just didn’t care anymore. There were some nice scenes (the space scene, the assassination of Edea,the flashbacks with the Moombas) but they just dragged on for so damn long. And even the romantic plot is so goddamn awkward. They really need to stop hiring Japanese virgins to write this stuff.

Graphically the game looks better than Final Fantasy VII but that's not saying much. I don't really mind the more realistic look of the characters since that was the way the series was going anyway. And I'm sure that if they were able to have such realistic characters on the NES or SNES they would have. But I think they still were pushing a little too hard for the system and the hardware they had. They can pull of realistic characters today on the PS3 but back then they still looked hocky. The characters look great in FMVs (like Quistis in the beginning, me-ow) but then when you get in game they’re still really rough looking. Just not as bad as Final Fantasy VII.

The combat in the game though is a real drag. The whole DRAW thing for magic isn’t a bad idea really, and Junctioning magic to your stats to improve your characters isn’t bad either. But I focused on DEFENSE on my playthrough and it left my characters pretty uneven and physically weak. Attacking enemies was almost pointless so I was left with using Guardian Forces to get any decent damage in on enemies. And that is a pain in the ass. Not only do you have to watch those one minute plus long animations over and over and over (they’re cool once…that’s it) but to get any decent damage out of THEM you have to tap the square button at random intervals. After a few hours of that battles became a chore. And the rest of the game suffered because of it. Everything became a chore and a drag. Now maybe that was just because I didn’t get too in to customizing my characters. You can go through everyone with a fine-toothed comb and do what you will. But when there’s an AUTO function I’m always inclined to use it. Maybe that was my downfall? And an odd thing they did this with this game was making characters level after 1000EXP for every level. So if you were getting battles early on in the game that were giving you even three hundred experience points you could abuse the Junctioning system and those low EXP numbers to grind your characters to some high levels pretty early in the game.

So a lot about this game really sucks but what really kills this game is simple; it had to follow the most loved and greatest Final Fantasy ever. There was no way to follow Final Fantasy VII. Squares options after Final Fantasy VII were to stop making games and quit at the top (yeah right) or be bound to disappoint. Like a band following a career best album or a sports team starting the season after winning the championship. Expectations were so damn high for Final Fantasy VIII that there was no way they could be met. I just found the game boring. There was too much damn talking (or thinking for Squall) too much staying in the same place and too much DRAMA. And the modernizing of the game was pretty off-putting. I didn’t like that there were cars driving around, or people on computers that didn’t look “out of this world” (the computers and their screens look like what computers looked like in 1999). I think I even remember characters pulling out cell-phones a few times but I may be wrong. Honestly, I’m glad this game didn’t get made today (2014) or I’d imagine that real-life social media would’ve played into it; like gaining experience by “liking” shit on facebook or tweeting out battle commands. Even the fashion of a lot of the people is exactly what we wear today (school uniforms, sweaters, simple dresses). And how did that Robin Williams look-alike bag that missle Edea?

Between the all around boringness of the game and the god-awful combat I got to the beginning of Disc 4 and just said, “fuck this”. It's very rare that I don't finish a game but I wasn’t having fun, I didn’t really care what happened and I wanted it to be done so I could move on. It peaks early with the assassination on Edea on Disc One and then it’s downhill from there. But it’s still worth playing to say you did. I just expect to forget it again within another few years. The thing is, I kinda want to.

Favorite Moment: the attempted assassination of Edea is pretty tense
Best Song: Trust Me (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lB50uIqpms)
Favorite Characters: Moombas
Lamest Character: Zell
Completion Time: around 40 hours
Gameplay Demo: the Centra Ruins (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5R6tfyIgQo), about three quarters of the way through the game
Rating: 2 out of 5


http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110922093527/finalfantasy/images/6/6a/FF8ScreenshotUltimecia2.jpg
Final Boss: Ultimecia

mankvill
04-12-2014, 08:57 PM
I remember going to my best friend's house growing up and he had FF8 for PS1 and I would sit and watch him play for hours and I loved it. I even bought the strategy guide for it (I still have it) even though I never owned a PS1 until way after the fact. I actually bought a physical copy of FF8 on PC but it didn't run on my family's computer at the time, but when we upgraded I installed it and the first disc was great, but the other discs were scratched so I couldn't play. I'd kill for a Steam/3DS port/remake.

Dextrimental
04-13-2014, 08:32 AM
I remember going to my best friend's house growing up and he had FF8 for PS1 and I would sit and watch him play for hours and I loved it. I even bought the strategy guide for it (I still have it) even though I never owned a PS1 until way after the fact. I actually bought a physical copy of FF8 on PC but it didn't run on my family's computer at the time, but when we upgraded I installed it and the first disc was great, but the other discs were scratched so I couldn't play. I'd kill for a Steam/3DS port/remake.

It's on Steam - 12.99

adamclark52
04-13-2014, 05:43 PM
http://pics.mobygames.com/images/covers/large/986341031-00.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4d6P4D_EAY)

Final Fantasy IX
Japanese Release Date: July 7th, 2000
North American Release Date: November 13th, 2000
Original Platform: Sony Playstation

Another one that was in my top twenty-five (http://www.metalsetlists.com/showpost.php?p=561997&postcount=16).

Favorite Moment: Vivi's reaction to the Black Waltz killing all those Black Mages
Best Song: Freya's Theme (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2rlLC4N9u4)
Coolest Character: Beatrix
Lamest Character: Quina
Gameplay Demo: I'm pretty sure this was when you returned to Freya's home town Burmecia (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJVOBGK6W1s#aid=P9u7LO9STjI)
Average Completion Time: 55 hours
Rating: 4 out of 5

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Final Boss: Necron


[EDIT: October 12th, 2014]
I went into playing this game again thinking that time might have clouded my judgment in an opposite way. With most Final Fantasy games I remember the bad; therefore I think the game sucks. Then I go back and play it (like I did with Final Fantasy VIII) and Iím like, ďhey, that wasnít too bad at allĒ. So when I did my review earlier this year and then started this one up I was like, ďI remember it being good but was it really THAT goodĒ? Well, it is.

Itís remembered for itís incredible cast of characters, itís old school feel and itís awesome soundtrack. And yes, it has all three. It was nice to play a game where pretty much every character was likeable and felt they needed to be there. Unlike most Final Fantasies (where I hate most of the cast) almost everyone, from the main party, to secondary villains to an old woman selling pickles, felt like they deserved their place in the game. It made for a very warm experience, being emotionally attached and feeling and caring for everyone. The old school design is a nice change of pace sandwiched in the middle of VI and VIIís steam punk, VIIIís TEEN DRAMA, and the latter games shitnadoís. The overall design was just fun to play; weapons, inns, towns, dungeons. It was like taking the original Final Fantasy and just transferring it in to 2000ís design. And the music is really fucking great. Like, really fucking great. The story itself is very good. Like I said, all the characters (except Quina) have their place and purpose. It does become a little disjointed towards the end of disk three and the climax/ending feels a little rushed. Itís not quite as heavy as Final Fantasy VII or X but sometimes you just need to take it easy. Some characters stories couldíve used a little more expansion (especially Freyaís) but having all those unknown variables and mystery is a nice touch too.

But donít get me wrong; there are flaws. The characters design is a bit off. Most characters are designed to look like Muppets. There are hippos and knights in comically sized armor. I mean; your hero Zidane has a goddamn tail. And thanks to the terrible PSone renders they look like very poorly rendered hippos and knights in comically sized armor. So when the game needs to be taken seriously itís very hard to do so. Itís like watching Kermit the Frog and Miss Piggy act out the Godfather. The gameplay itself is very slow. The story unfolds at a fine pace but playing the actual game takes some time. Just starting a battle, watching the slow pans of the camera around the battlefield, then your characters ATB gauges slowly filling up. YAWN. Sometimes it seems to take a minute before you can even get an action in (even if it is only ten or fifteen seconds). I tried playing the game last year after playing Final Fantasy XIII and I couldnít handle the slow pace of the battles. So playing it now after playthroughs of VIII and X was a little easier to manage. The graphics are hard on the eyes but that goes without saying for a PSone title. And I found it very easy. I didnít break a sweat really EVER playing this game. Some people may find that to be a turn off. Not so much for me. Iíd rather let the story unfold at the pace Iím playing at than have to spend hours grinding. Thereís a lot of game anyway to sidetrack you and build your characters. I never bothered with any of it this time around since none of it added to the story and I was just interested in that.

Overall I was really glad that I took the time to go back and play this game again. It was a little more lighthearted than most Final Fantasies and just let me have fun. There are some incredible moments like Burmecia, or Zidanes revelation. None of the characters are bad at all really. And the music and painted environments were awesome. It just made me feel a little sad that there probably will never be another Final Fantasy like this.

It really is one of the very best in the series and playing it again only adds to my great memories of it. Iíll miss playing this one and I donít think Iíll wait ten years to play it again.

Favorite Moment: anything involving the Black Mages is pretty good, but when you first find their village and get to know them a bitÖthatís sad...poor Mr. 36.
Best Song: Freya's Theme (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2rlLC4N9u4) (and all the songs based off it)
Coolest Character: Freya
Lamest Character: Quina
Average Completion Time: 35 hours
Rating: 4 out of 5

adamclark52
04-13-2014, 05:46 PM
So with the turn of the century (the millennium, Y2K, whatever the fuck it was called) came big changes for Final Fantasy. FFIX wasn’t the last Final Fantasy in the classic style but it really was the end of an era. The nineties were really good for Final Fantasy and the late nineties especially were really profitable. So that gave Square the freedom to do pretty much whatever they wanted. Of the big changes one of the biggest was sequels. As you may know, no two Final Fantasy games had anything to do with one another. When one was over that was it. Well that all changed in the 2000’s. Unfortunately ot always seemed to me like they made sequels to the lesser games in the series. But we'll get into that in about three years. Another huge change was (thanks to new technology) voice over’s. Something people had always wanted to see (and we just unable to due to limitations even on the Playstation). We’ll get into that more as we go. Not to mention stylistic changes, gameplay changes and directional changes. Some for the good…some not so much.

Dextrimental
04-13-2014, 07:22 PM
I actually still ain't sold on voice-acting in Final Fantasy - I think you lose some of the engrossment with it at times. FFIX is an incredible piece of art though, holy hell.

mankvill
04-13-2014, 07:29 PM
It's on Steam - 12.99

holy fucking titties

adamclark52
04-13-2014, 07:32 PM
I just never realized how annoying some characters are and how poor some of the lines are. It may be the fact that they hire lousy voice actors but when they re-did FFIV and added some cutscenes with voice overs I was just like, damn this dialogue sucks.

I think if characters like Yuffie, Cait Sith and Quina were ever remade with voice actors it would add another dimension to the layers of dislike for those characters. Unless they actually hired decent actors. But you know a character like Yuffie would be cast as another Ritalin addicted pre-teen. And Cait Sith, he'd probably sound like the evil clown from the Simpsons (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7alnPmA1824).

adamclark52
04-13-2014, 08:27 PM
Well, I did it to myself. I was a quarter of the way into my favorite game of all-time (Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic) but writing my review of Final Fantasy VIII seemed so incomplete to me that I had to stop playing that and start up a run through FFVIII. I hope I don't regret it.

John The Drummer
04-14-2014, 09:25 AM
Well, I did it to myself. I was a quarter of the way into my favorite game of all-time (Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic) but writing my review of Final Fantasy VIII seemed so incomplete to me that I had to stop playing that and start up a run through FFVIII. I hope I don't regret it.

Definitely worth it, mang! It is probably one of the most underrated GOOD games of the whole series. I wish I had spent as much time on it as I did with FF7.

Just don't open the jar too early.... Diablo is a BITCH :mad:

adamclark52
04-14-2014, 10:26 AM
Definitely worth it, mang! It is probably one of the most underrated GOOD games of the whole series. I wish I had spent as much time on it as I did with FF7.

Just don't open the jar too early.... Diablo is a BITCH :mad:

I'm really looking forward to figuring out what Squalls problem is. Riona and Quistis were both throwing themselves at him in the first three hours and he just blew them both off. What an idiot.

adamclark52
04-14-2014, 11:37 AM
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Final Fantasy: the Spirits Within (July 13th, 2001)

Okay so this is a movie and not a game. But it deserves a mention at least. Final Fantasy was at itís most prolific around the millennium so to capitalize on that they released a motion picture geared towards a North American audience. And it fell flat on its face. This is far and away the most colossal failure in the history of Final Fantasy. It was poorly reviewed, it lost A FORTUNE and itís generally forgotten about and not spoken of by fans. If you look up articles online that go over "biggest box-office bombs" or "movies with lowest returns" this poor movie is usually in the top ten. I think Square Pictures even went under within a few weeks of it's release. I canít remember too much about it other than I know I didnít really like it. It was pretty boring and had a typical confusing Final Fantasy ending. Thing is with a game it unfolds over thirty, forty or fifty hours so it works. This was like trying to condense a full games story into an hour and a half. It just didn't work. It did look beautiful. Even by todayís standards itís pretty incredible. The amount of work that went into this was ridiculous. I've heard they had a huge team of animators that were able to get about two seconds worth of footage done a day. But I have no desire to ever watch this again.

Scene: the theatrical trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnE64DbnUzY)
Rating: 1 out of 5


[EDIT: May 10th, 2014]
Let me start this redo by stating one thing; Iíve been drinking. I decided to give Spirits Within another shot after I watched Advent Children and really, really liked it. I havenít seen it in well over ten years so I thought maybe time would have changed my initial bad reaction to the movie.

Let me start with the good. As I stated before the movie looks incredible. It looks beautiful even by 2014ís standards. Definitely better than any video game still and probably better than any CGI movie. So fifteen years ago it was unheard of. Which may be one of the big problems for the movie; it was too far ahead of its time. In 2014 CGI movies are par for the course and we expect them to look great. In 2001 they were this new, unknown medium and people werenít willing to accept them. Maybe thatís why it failed? People could have been afraid of this movie in 2001 and what it meant for the future. When really, it meant nothing. However, had this come out in 2014 I donít think people wouldíve even noticed it because it was nothing special compared to everything else. So no matter what it was doomed to failure. Another thing I loved was the (small) inclusion of Keith David (aka. Mass Effects Admiral Anderson) in the voice cast. Hearing his voice made me happy; even if this movie came out years before he was immortalized (to me) in Mass Effect.

But on the downside, the voice acting does lose out a bit to me. I prefer when a CGI movie or game uses talents that are primarily voice-actors. When they use actors who have made a name for themselves as screen actors (Donald Sutherland, James Woods, that chick from Frasier, Steve Busemi) it comes across as a simple ďpay-dayĒ to them (even though I know itís just a job to the voice-actors as well). But I find voice actors performances are more genuine. The characters themselves are really nothing to get to hot-and-bothered about. No one really stands out. They're just normal-ish people. Donald Sutherland is good in his role, as is James Woods and (surprisingly) Alec Baldwin.

Iíve shat on the overly Japan-ation of Final Fantasy a lot in this thread, and will continue to do so, but the lack of Japan-ation in this movie was off putting. This was just ďtoo realĒ. I didnít like that it took place on Earth, or had so many of the locations that are in out Earth included. Japanising things and taking it to some strange world makes it seem more likeÖa FantasyÖ to me, and makes it much more enjoyable.

The story isnít that bad really, and itís not as boring as I remember as it being. Thatís probably because I watched it by myself with a stiff drink this time, as opposed to ten years ago when I watched it with my wife who only adds sarcasm and criticism to anything I enjoy and she doesnít understand. But, like with Advent Children and my initial review; the story of a Final Fantasy needs more time than a movie allows to unfold and work itís way out. This could have been a great prequel to a game, or a side story. Had the words ďFinal FantasyĒ been removed for them title it would have just been some movie that no one would have cared about.

Overall, I didn't HATE this movie as much as I remember. It still was a prime example of how far Final Fantasy was moving from its roots. And at a time when the franchise was at it's most profitable I think it was a good reality check to the creators that they were still just a video game franchise, nothing more. It still doesn't deserve praise. It doesn't suck that bad either. It just never really should have happened.

New Rating: 2 out of 5

John The Drummer
04-14-2014, 12:47 PM
Final Fantasy: the Spirits Within (July 13th, 2001)



I finally saw this movie about 2 years ago. I always wanted to watch it, was so excited when it was streaming for free on Crackle... what a let down :(
I wasn't expecting much, but it just didn't have much to it and very boring. Advent Children on the other had...... :agree:

John The Drummer
04-14-2014, 12:54 PM
I'm really looking forward to figuring out what Squalls problem is. Riona and Quistis were both throwing themselves at him in the first three hours and he just blew them both off. What an idiot.

:lol:
I forgot what his deal was, don't remember much of the story as a whole, just the smaller parts.... like the Laguna (think thats his name) flashbacks or dream sequences, which ever they were and getting stuck in one because I had no clue where to go :D

Also, trivia: back when FF8 came out I was Squall for Halloween. Took a toy sword of mine, ripped off the blade and duct taped it to a water gun to make a Gun Sword... THOSE WERE SO COOL!!!!!

adamclark52
04-14-2014, 07:50 PM
:lol:
I forgot what his deal was, don't remember much of the story as a whole, just the smaller parts.... like the Laguna (think thats his name) flashbacks or dream sequences, which ever they were and getting stuck in one because I had no clue where to go :D

Also, trivia: back when FF8 came out I was Squall for Halloween. Took a toy sword of mine, ripped off the blade and duct taped it to a water gun to make a Gun Sword... THOSE WERE SO COOL!!!!!

I'm the same way. I remember bits and pieces. But even what little I saw last night seemed brand new. I'm looking forward to playing a nice old school game.

adamclark52
04-15-2014, 12:40 AM
http://pics.mobygames.com/images/covers/large/1104252195-00.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FhS5eRD6iM)

Final Fantasy X
Japanese Release Date: July 19th, 2001
North American Release Date: December 17th, 2001
Original Platform: Sony Playstation 2
Re-released on: Sony Playstation 3, Playstation Vita

The biggest thing this game has to offer that was new is very big. Voice-overs. A blessing and a curse. On the good side it brought the series into the next era of gaming after a lot of other series’ had been doing it for years. So Final Fantasy was actually pretty late to the game. On the bad side; I never noticed how bad some of Final Fantasy’s dialogue was and how annoying some characters could be until I heard them talking. When I play older games now I’ll read into the dialogue more and I realize it’s just as bad as it is in this game but since I was always reading it I never really noticed that much. But hearing characters speak it I just couldn’t not notice how bad it can be. Let’s take Rikku as an example. Annoying as fuck. I want to shoot her. Yuffie (from Final Fantasy VII) has lines that are just as annoying and her character is in the same mold. But since I never heard her speak I never cared. But if she was given a voice-over I think I’d hate her just as much. Maybe Squall or Zidane were just as annoying as Tidus? But again, I only had to read their words. I never had to watch them laugh (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5FTJxfV3pc). I'm sure that scene served a purpose that I just don't understand. After hours and hours of one annoying character and another wooden character when that shit hits you it's just like...what the fuck, I liked reading better. But then there was Auron. So badass. He was like me playing this game. He was just there because he had to be.

The actual game is pretty good. It’s pretty linear but nowhere near as bad as a game that comes later in the series. The combat was good and the sphere grid leveling system was actually pretty cool. And it was nice that you could swap out characters during battles to ensure that they all got experience points from battles. Even though it really just made battles unnecessarily long. The music was great (the Hymns of the Faith, so awesome) and it looked beautiful. But the voice acting really just killed this game. I think it just comes down to the fact that they always hire shit voice actors for the English versions. And yet it’s somehow one of the most loved Final Fantasies.

Favorite Moment: the aftermath of the battle with Sin at Mihen is pretty cool (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMF2P_MXXCc)
Best Song: Servants of the Mountain (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ytLWmfSbj8)
Coolest Character: Auron
Lamest Character: Rikku
Average Completion Time: 30-40 hours
Gameplay Demo: this is near the middle of the game (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2HtHQc2NPg), I don't know why the audio is sped up and fucked up
Rating: 3 out of 5

http://www.reminisc3.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/ffx.jpg
Final Boss: Braska's Final Aeon


[EDIT: October 12th, 2014]
I decided to give this one another go because I remember it being on the bottom of the pile in the Final Fantasy nexus. But so much has come since then that I thought it deserved another shot.

The story is actually not a bad one at all. It takes its time to get good but once it gets there it’s really satisfying. You just have to put up with a lot of cringe-worthy moments getting there. And there is the issue of voice acting, which I touched on in my initial post. Nothing really has changed there. They blow! Spira is a pretty sweet world to spend time in. It has a very aquatic, island feeling to it. I really liked it and it may be one of the best worlds in the Final Fantasy nexus.

There are a decent amount of characters compared to later Final Fantasies and they’re okay. Auron is still a complete badass who should be in every Final Fantasy and Rikku is still annoying as fuck. But I’d forgotten how bad the two leads (Tidus and Yuna) were. Tidus is just a fucking moron. That’s the nicest way I can say it. At first he’s just a pricky teen who sort-of mocks everyone in a bad way. It takes about twenty-five hours until he finally becomes bearable. Thankfully, the moment he does become bearable is really well done and all is pretty much forgiven at that point. It just took a long fucking time. And Yuna is just a moron. It doesn’t help that her voice actor should be in silent films. “Yup”, “Okay”, “Yes”, dear god shut up. Seymour was actually a better character than I remembered despite his terrible render. I almost felt bad voting him as the worst Final Fantasy bad guy when I originally finished this thread but whatever.

I would say that graphics are light-years ahead of the Playstation games and I guess they are in comparison. But in comparison to even late-gen PS2 games they look pretty shitty. The facial renders are very wooden, the characters arms always seem glued to their sides (especially background characters) and Lulu’s boobs look weird (magnificent, but weird). That’s the actual in-game renders. The FMVs are pretty breathtaking but they’re very few and far between.

The game moves in a very similar manner as Final Fantasy XIII, i.e. “the tube”. You pretty much move from A to B, watch a cut scene and keep going. But unlike XIII you have the option of going back to A if you feel the need. And from time-to-time you can even branch off and go to point C. The combat is both good and bad. I complained a lot in this thread about characters in your immediate party not gaining any experience after fighting battles. Well you can have every character gain the same amount of experience this time around by swapping them in and out of battle at your will. That’s a nice touch, especially for those times when you really only need a White Mage (Yuna) to cast a heal spell and get the hell out of there or figure out that an enemy is weak against Fire and you need your Black Mage (Lulu). But it also makes battles unnecessarily long. That may be just my fault but I wanted all my characters to gain experience at the same rate so I was swapping everyone in and out during every battle. I guess you could go with a core group and just blaze through the game if you wanted to.

I can’t say I hate this game anymore after not playing it for ten years. I may have liked it even more. Spira was a beautiful place, the music was awesome (some of the series best), Lulu’s tits were fantastic, Rikku’s only in two thirds of the game, Sin is fucking awesome. Yeah, there is a lot to like in this game. But sandwiched between IX and XII…forget about it.

Favorite Moment: arriving at Zanarkand is heart stopping
Best Song: Servants of the Mountain (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ytLWmfSbj8)
Coolest Character: Auron
Lamest Character: Rikku
Average Completion Time: 30-40 hours
Rating: 3.5 out of 5

Onioner
04-15-2014, 01:42 AM
FFX was my first Final Fantasy game. I remember it was super cheap a few years after it came out, I'm pretty sure I bought my copy for like 8 bucks used at Gamestop or something. I was only maybe 10 or 11 or something when I played it, but I definitely remember the laughing scene being one of the most terrible things I had seen in my young life.

John The Drummer
04-15-2014, 01:02 PM
FFX was a game I REALLY wanted to enjoy and get into, but I was so bad at it and couldn't beat one of the Sin battles. The characters were pretty cool, though, especially Auron, such a badass. I never got used to the sphere grid AT ALL. I am sure I would do better now, but back then it just seemed like too much work, espcially after being so used to the FF7 and 8 leveling systems. Def was missing out on the open worldness the previous titles had, but I guess for what it was, being a bit of a new beginning to the series, it was great :rocker:

adamclark52
04-15-2014, 11:39 PM
http://www.ffshrine.org/ffxi/coverscans/ff11_jap.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FuZ-ibx6tM)

Final Fantasy XI: Online
Japanese Release Date: May 16th, 2002
North American Release Date: October 28th, 2003
Original Platform: Sony Playstation 2, PC
Re-released on: Xbox 360

One of the very few ďnumberedĒ games in the series Iíve never played. Iíve heard itís very similar to Final Fantasy XII. But itís a MMORPG and I donít play those. I cant justify paying for a game and then paying a monthly fee to play the game. And if I ever did, it probably would be one of the Star Wars ones. I do have some of the soundtrack on my iTunes but I have no connection to any of those songs. But the version of the Prelude (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FuZ-ibx6tM) from this game is pretty terrible because it has some weird key changes.

Gameplay Demo: fighting a hornet (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SkeiYrqr-M)

http://zam.zamimg.com/ffxi/i/images/mobs/Shadow-Lord.jpg
Original Final Boss: Shadow Lord

mankvill
04-15-2014, 11:49 PM
-5FTJxfV3pc

9cyx6nWdFas

adamclark52
04-16-2014, 12:05 AM
-5FTJxfV3pc

9cyx6nWdFas

Thanks for posting that...it put it all in perspective.

I'm playing FFVIII after feeling my review was too incomplete. I have no desire to play X at this moment.

adamclark52
04-17-2014, 12:02 AM
http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080504055003/finalfantasy/images/8/8a/FFTA_na.jpg

Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
Japanese Release Date: February 14th, 2003
North American Release Date: September 8th, 2003
Original Platform: Game Boy Advance

I guess this the first ďsequelĒ in the Final Fantasy universe. Although it's not so much a direct sequel to Final Fantasy Tactics as another game set in the same universe. But it didn't get much notice because it was on a system that wasnít as prolific and it was for a game that wasnít as popular. Iíve never actually played this game.

Gameplay Demo: a random battle...in German! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqhljNmtmaQ)

http://playwhatyoulikesrpgreviews.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/final_fantasy_tactics_advance_final_but_flat_battl e.jpg
Final Boss: Li-Grim (that blue thing at the top of the screen)

adamclark52
04-17-2014, 12:21 AM
http://pics.mobygames.com/images/covers/large/1069793618-00.jpg

Final Fantasy X-2
Japanese Release Date: March 13th, 2003
North American Release Date: November 18th, 2003
Original Platform: Sony Playstation 2
Rereleased on: Sony Playstation 3, Playstation Vita

Why do the lesser Final Fantasies get sequels? Final Fantasy X wasn't a bad game by any means. But Final Fantasy X-2 was an abomination. Any of the characters from X that were enjoyable or cool were reduced to cameo appearances or just weren't in it. Tidus really wasn't in it, so that was a plus. In the end it starred Yuna, who wasn't that bad. And...Rikku..., one of the worst characters in Final Fantasy history. There was a third character added named Paine (I think) who was entirely forgettable. So the big "draw" was that it was an all female cast. Whoo-hoo. Then there was the overall design of the game, which was basically like playing a J-pop music video. After the first few minutes of this game I knew I wasn't going to enjoy it. And I didn't.

The actual game was okay. It featured different dresses for your characters to wear which was a different way of presenting a job system like in FFIII and Final Fantasy Tactics. Aside from that it played just like Final Fantasy X. There was a quite a bit of exploring needed in this game in order to get the full experience. But it was all through talking to NPCs so it was easy to miss some of it. I actually had to use a walkthrough because I ended up beating the storyline of the game in something ridiculous like fifteen hours. So yeah, I actually had to play through this game twice.

More and more with Final Fantasies I have a problem where I get older and have less of a connection with the characters, who are always late-teenagers. It was never more apparent than with this game. Not only were they all tweens, they were all girls. So I had zero in common with any of them. Rikku is a character I loathed. A black hole. Her picture on the cover pretty much sums it all up (she's the blond at the top who you want to punch). So it really sucked to have to play through not one but TWO games with her while characters like Locke, Beatrix, fuck even Squall are stuck in a vortex of one game. It was a sequel to a game I neither loved or hated, so I just didn't give a fuck. It was nice to revisit areas from the first game and catch up with characters briefly but this was a terrible game that's really not worth playing. I just wanted to shoot myself the whole time I was playing it.

Avoid this game like the plague, unless you like not enjoying stuff.

Favorite Moment: going back to Zanarkand was nice
Coolest Character: LeBlanc had some great tits (http://lparchive.org/Final-Fantasy-X-2/Update%2004/50-Ep02_103.jpg)
Lamest Character: Rikku
Average Completion Time: 35 hours
Gameplay Demo: here's the first three hours of the game to torture youreself with (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbMbBV3ozHw)
Rating: 0.5 out of 5

http://lparchive.org/Final-Fantasy-X-2/Update%2061/18-Ep31_249.jpg
Final Boss: Shuyin

John The Drummer
04-17-2014, 12:57 PM
I always thought Rikku was awesome :(..... but X-2 just looked dumb. I never played it, and never had any interest in playing it. Is that guy seriously the final boss? No giant monster or anything? Shit, sure the "true' final battle with Sephiroth was him in "human" form.... but he was still a monster!

adamclark52
04-17-2014, 01:37 PM
It was, as far as I remember. It was the anticlimactic end to a terrible game. I'd forgotten how nauseating this game was until I watched the intro again last night. At the end of this thread there're going to be some "awards" given out, and that intro changed things.

adamclark52
04-17-2014, 07:06 PM
http://pics.mobygames.com/images/covers/large/1328376596-00.jpg

Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles
Japanese Release Date: August 8th, 2003
North American Release Date: February 9th 2004
Original Platform: Nintendo Game Cube

This is a ďsub-seriesĒ of Final Fantasy games that marked the franchises return to Nintendo after nine years away. At the time it was monumental but today it doesnít really matter. I can remember TV ads for this game, lots of TV ads, which was odd for a Final Fantasy. It looks like it could be a fun game. It looks more like a classic Final Fantasy than anything since IX. But Iíve never played it. Youíre going to notice a lot of holes in my entries for the second half of this thread. They release a lot of games in the Final Fantasy series now and I could never keep up. A lot are on handheld systems too and I just donít play them.

Gameplay Demo: first area of the game (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezjJxKtAxuQ)

http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070809185632/finalfantasy/images/2/24/FFCC-Raem2nd.jpg
Final Boss: Memoria

adamclark52
04-17-2014, 07:13 PM
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080412192616/finalfantasy/images/6/63/Bc-logo.jpg

Before Crisis: Final Fantasy VII
Japanese Release Date: September 29th, 2004
Original Platform: Mobile Phone

I've never played this game and I never will. It was only released in Japan and it was a mobile phone game. And I can imagine how terrible a mobile phone game from 2004 would seem today. There have been multiple chapters released up until early 2006. It focus' on the Turks, a supporting group from Final Fantasy VII

Gameplay Demo: I don't know why this is in English if the game was only released in Japan. Someone must have ported it. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7gvaHZlUgk)

http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090704093019/finalfantasy/images/3/32/FF7BC_Zirconiade.jpg
Final Boss: Zirconiade

John The Drummer
04-17-2014, 08:02 PM
I remember playing a couple of the Crystal Chronicles games on the DS but they were just Dungeon Crawlers, nothing much to do at all. Was fun for a bit, but then got insanely repetitive and bland.

adamclark52
04-18-2014, 05:06 PM
http://mangarin.blog.se/files/2011/04/final-fantasy-vii-advent-children.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ECAWiak6-8)

Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children (September 14th, 2005)
[Edit: April 25th, 2014] I went in to watching this with an open mind and low expectations. I enjoyed Final Fantasy VII a lot but I think it was a turning point (downwards) in the series in terms of character design, theme and overall design. If it weren’t for Cloud and Sephiroth would we have all these flashy battles, allusions to shit that makes to sense and homo-metro-sexual fashion? I see pictures of kids in Japan and all I see is a bunch of kids who wish they were Cloud. Fashion aside this was actually a very enjoyable movie. I still don’t think Final Fantasy is fit for motion pictures just because I rather see a story unfold over fifty hours but for what it was it did a good job. There were enough allusions to the game to keep me satisfied but not get cheesy (it would have been dumb if people were casting curaga on each other or summoning all those Espers). Thankfully most of the characters from the games screen time was kept to a very minimal. I hate it when sequels are made and a character from the previous installment shows up on screen, helps the lead win a battle, says a line or two then disappears, then the same happens for other characters (see Mortal Kombat 2). I could’ve done without any of the scenes involving Aerith but I guess they had to throw her in there somehow. The simple shot of her and Zack at the end would have been more than enough in my opinion. The story was decent enough and the voice acting (I watched the English overdub) was okay. It was actually really awesome that they gave Cait Sith a Scottish accent. That was fucking hilarious. And Red XIII’s voice was really cool; it was too bad he had a grand total of one line. I could’ve done with more of him in a speaking role. Yuffie was dumb as fuck but that was to be expected. I was surprised Barrett wasn't in it more but I guess you can only do so much in ninety minutes. The movie looks incredible and the music is really good, although some songs seem too "video game" and don't fit in. I liked that the world was pretty much fucked from the events of the game. Or at least Midgard/Edge was (they really never left there). Overall I’m glad I watched it but I don’t think I’ll ever watch it again. I still prefer the ending to the game and letting that be that. But for what this was worth it at least wasn’t a train-wreck.

It should be noted that I watched the original cut of the movie. There is an extended edition that adds around thirty minutes of footage.

Favorite Moment: Kadaj’s scene with Rufus in the cabin, the music is really cool (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDa-bem2nIg)
Best Song: the Promised Land (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvYh3uQpqXc)
Coolest Character: Cloud
Lamest Character: Yuffie, because Cait Siths voice was so hilarious I don't think I can hate it any more.
Rating: 3.5 out of 5

Theatrical Trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNqu5Za6Ez4)

[EDIT: May 17th, 2014] I watched it again tonight, and drank a lot during my viewing. I really enjoyed it but my only question...who the fuck is that dog that's in a bunch of the early scenes. I remember a dog in Final Fantasy VI (Interceptor) and in Final Fantasy VIII (Angelo) but I have no memory of a dog in Final Fantasy VII.

adamclark52
04-18-2014, 05:13 PM
http://www.finalfantasykingdom.net/co7/doccover.jpg

Dirge of Cerberus: Final Fantasy VII
Japanese Release Date: January 28th, 2006
North American Release Date: August 15th, 2006
Original Platform: Sony Playstation 2
Rereleased on: Mobile Phone

Yet another sequel/spin-off to Final Fantasy VII that I have not played. My brother had it and he said it was just ďokayĒ. But I remember him saying the saving system was really weird in this game and made it harder than it should have been. It was a third person shooter staring Vincent Valentine, who was a cool character. Iím not much for shooter games so I donít really have any desire to ever play this. It looks to me to be a Devil My Cry clone.

Gameplay Demo: some level (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_Cl-s1qZbQ)

http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120720011822/finalfantasy/images/5/54/Omega_Weiss.png
Final Boss: Omega Weiss

John The Drummer
04-18-2014, 07:31 PM
Dirge of Cerberus: Final Fantasy VII
Japanese Release Date: January 28th, 2006


I never played this one, either, but it definitely just seemed like a "Meh, if I play it, cool, if not, oh well." I loved Vincent, but this game definitely didn't look very promising. My friend who played it said it was pretty good, but got boring after a while.


Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children (September 14th, 2005)


I LOVED this movie. It definitely was cheesy and VERY Japanese at times, but it wasn't bad at all. I would recommend it. If you have a 360, download the free Krackle app (movie streaming). Last time I looked they had Advent Children on it. Definitely worth the watch.... but may take a couple watches because it gets confusing at a couple points. It isn't bad at all though.

adamclark52
04-18-2014, 07:51 PM
I LOVED this movie. It definitely was cheesy and VERY Japanese at times, but it wasn't bad at all. I would recommend it. If you have a 360, download the free Krackle app (movie streaming). Last time I looked they had Advent Children on it. Definitely worth the watch.... but may take a couple watches because it gets confusing at a couple points. It isn't bad at all though.

I think my brother may have it on DVD. I'm going to ask him to bring it when he comes over Sunday and I'll try watch it next weekend.

I'm just worried that I won't connect with ANYTHING. And the overt-Japanosity of everything. And if Tifa's wearing a bra.

John The Drummer
04-18-2014, 07:53 PM
I think my brother may have it on DVD. I'm going to ask him to bring it when he comes over Sunday and I'll try watch it next weekend.

I'm just worried that I won't connect with ANYTHING. And the overt-Japanosity of everything. And if Tifa's wearing a bra.

:lol:
I must admit, the final big battle scene is just AWESOME. A couple little throwbacks to the game as well (like someones ringtone being the "Battle Won" jingle :D )

adamclark52
04-19-2014, 07:52 AM
http://www.finalfantasykingdom.net/12/cover.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUYpUU5rX-U)

Final Fantasy XII
Japanese Release Date: March 16th, 2006
North American Release Date: October 31st, 2006
Original Platform: Sony Playstation 2

My favorite game in the whole series. Read the review here from my top twenty-five (http://www.metalsetlists.com/showpost.php?p=563402&postcount=60). If I can add anything new to that review itís that I just finished my fourth playthrough of this game a few weeks ago and after that I think I am done with this game. Nothing against the game, I still LOVE it, but it really has nothing new to offer me now that I've done almost everything. Thatís a problem with Final Fantasies, itís really always the same game. There are very few times you got to make a decision in the game. And even when you did the only outcome was maybe you got a different item that didnít affect the story in any way. I wouldnít recommend this game to anyone new to the series. In fact, Iíd say this is one of the LAST ones you should play. But as a fan of well over twenty years I love this game and will always love it.

Favorite Moment: none, really
Best Song: so many to choose from...Eruyt Village (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOAD58HCB-c)
Coolest Character: Reddas
Lamest Character: none, but I guess Larsa is a bit of a putz. Be a kid, kid.
Average Completion Time: unknown, but when I grind heavily (which is every time Iíve played) I clock in at around 120 hours. But the actual storyline is rather short, maybe forty hours.
Gameplay Demo: Ozmone Plains, early in the game (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEmIKXz4ZgI)
Rating: 6 out of 5

http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130626034156/finalfantasy/images/7/72/TheUndyingFull-ffxii-battle.png
Final Boss: the Undying

John The Drummer
04-19-2014, 09:48 AM
Not sure how I feel about that battle system, reminds me of Guild Wars or something. I am sure it took some getting used to, that's for sure!

Before you get to it... I must just throw out there and say I loved Final Fantasy XIII.... that is all.... :eyes:

adamclark52
04-19-2014, 10:17 AM
Not sure how I feel about that battle system, reminds me of Guild Wars or something. I am sure it took some getting used to, that's for sure!

Before you get to it... I must just throw out there and say I loved Final Fantasy XIII.... that is all.... :eyes:

Yeah...XIII...we'll get in to that in a few days.

John The Drummer
04-19-2014, 10:20 AM
Yeah...XIII...we'll get in to that in a few days.

I already know how the review will go :lol:
I must say, bad characters, but I loved the graphics and gameplay of it all. Now I will politely wait with hands folded in my lap :)

adamclark52
04-19-2014, 11:10 AM
John, I know Portland is three hours away from you but there's a Distant Worlds show there next weekend and I think you'd love it.

http://www.ffdistantworlds.com/

John The Drummer
04-19-2014, 11:26 AM
John, I know Portland is three hours away from you but there's a Distant Worlds show there next weekend and I think you'd love it.

http://www.ffdistantworlds.com/

I saw you posting about that recently and wondered if it was ever coming close to here. That would amazing to see! Been meaning to trip back down to Portland since September, will look into it!

adamclark52
04-19-2014, 07:52 PM
http://media.gamerevolution.com/images/misc/Image/vann_shirt.jpg

adamclark52
04-19-2014, 07:58 PM
http://iv1.lisimg.com/image/835414/600full-final-fantasy-xii%3A-revenant-wings----nintendo-ds-cover.jpg
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-L-282EB6Q)
Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings
Japanese Release Date: April 26th, 2007
North American Release Date: November 20th, 2007
Original Platform: Nintendo DS

For once a sequel to an entry in the series that I actually wanted to see. Too bad it really wasnít that good. It was fun to see my old friends from the first game but the actual gameplay was terrible. It was sort-of set up like Final Fantasy Tactics but I really had no idea what I was doing when I played it. I just kept hitting stuff and usually won.

Favorite Moment: beating Zalera was pretty satisfying
Best Song: a lot of the music from XII is recycled in this game, but Esper (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oHoDwc4teA) is more prominent and awesome
Coolest Character: Balthier
Gameplay Demo: this is in Japanese but it gives you the gist of it (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xg0QojlSbU4)
Rating: 2.5 out of 5

http://images-mediawiki-sites.thefullwiki.org/04/2/0/1/51484481277367817.jpg
Final Boss: Feolthanos Exultant

adamclark52
04-19-2014, 09:28 PM
I added a poll to the front of this thread...you know, so me and John can vote for our favorite game in the series...:eyes:

Nah, I'm sure it'll get at least three other votes...maybe?

John The Drummer
04-20-2014, 11:00 AM
I added a poll to the front of this thread...you know, so me and John can vote for our favorite game in the series...:eyes:

Nah, I'm sure it'll get at least three other votes...maybe?

:lol:

Just realized this thread has basically been just you and I with the occasional stray member posting XD

John The Drummer
04-20-2014, 11:02 AM
I HAD to pick 7 in the poll. It was the one that I started with, the one I've spent most of my time on and still play to this day.... just so many great memories. VIII is a close second!

adamclark52
04-20-2014, 02:02 PM
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080504053518/finalfantasy/images/3/3c/FFCCrof_na.jpg

Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Ring of Fates
Japanese Release Date: August 23rd, 2007
North American Release Date: March 11th, 2008
Original Platform: Nintendo DS

I didnít even know that the first Crystal Chronicles had spawned a series of six games until I started researching for this thread. John the Drummer says theyíre not very good. Since heís my west-coast doppelganger I trust his opinion.

Gameplay Demo: who knows (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wYTPSItizU)

http://chrysaliswiki.wdfiles.com/local--files/people:galdes/galdes_ffccrf.jpg
Final Boss: Great Galdes

adamclark52
04-20-2014, 02:17 PM
http://www.finalfantasykingdom.net/cc7/cccover.gif

Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Japanese Release Date: September 13th, 2007
North American Release Date: March 25th, 2008
Original Platform: Playstation Portable

Something tells me I may actually like this game. It looks to be a prequel leading right up to the events of Final Fantasy VII. However, I liked Zack being that unknown factor in VII. So I don't think I want to know more about his story. I think it's time to let Final Fantasy VII rest in peace.

I have a bit of the soundtrack on my iTunes and it's really good, mixing acoustic dirges (like Red Dead Redemption) with straight up METAL!!!!

Best Song: Moonlight Wandering (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAFA1hczTLw)
Gameplay Demo: not sure, but good graphics for a handheld (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aanwgyZcVzY)

http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101120223736/finalfantasy/images/1/1e/CC7_Genesis_final_encounter.png
Final Boss: Genesis Rhapsodos (he has a red sword...that's actually pretty cool)

John The Drummer
04-20-2014, 05:37 PM
I always wanted to play Crisis Core, it doesn't look too bad, and yes, the graphics, especially that CGI part, looked GREAT for a handheld. Not sure about the battle system, but I am sure it plays out OK.

adamclark52
04-20-2014, 10:28 PM
http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080501155244/finalfantasy/images/6/60/TA2NAFront.jpg

Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift
Japanese Release Date: October 25th, 2007
North American Release Date: June 24th, 2008
Original Platform: Nintendo DS

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Gameplay Demo: a fight (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HJgsGk4Q_U)

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Final Boss: Neukhia

adamclark52
04-20-2014, 10:37 PM
http://www.finalfantasykingdom.net/ay/aycover.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6963EH17gxI)

Final Fantasy IV: the After Years
Japanese Release Date: February 18th, 2008
North American Release Date: June 1st, 2009
Original Platform: Mobile Phone
Rereleased on: Wii Ware, Playstation Portable

I really should play this game since it’s the sequel to one of my favorite games of all-time. But it’s on systems I don’t own and I’m not spending a few hundred dollars to play one game.

Gameplay Demo: I'd imagine this is near the end of the game. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HEZES23wy4) I'm not sure why Ultros is there? I guess he was pissed that there's never been any sort of sequel to FFVI too.

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130115025712/finalfantasy/images/0/05/TAY_Wii_Multiply.jpg
Final Boss: the Creator

adamclark52
04-21-2014, 09:38 AM
I'm trying to plow through this shit as fast as I can. I wanted to be done by this weekend but shit, there are a lot of Final Fantasy games.

adamclark52
04-21-2014, 09:44 AM
http://vgboxart.com/boxes/Wii/22468-final-fantasy-crystal-chronicles-my-life-as-a-king.png

Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: My Life as a King
Japanese Release Date: March 25th, 2008
North American Release Date: May 12th, 2008
Original Platform: Nintendo Wii

Gameplay Demo: actually doesn't look too bad (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3WUMDz0Yxg).

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080328153711/finalfantasy/images/4/49/FFCC-king-DarkLord.jpg
Final Boss: the Dark Lord

John The Drummer
04-21-2014, 09:46 AM
:lol: Plus, so many games that not many people played or just weren't that memorable. Seems like they just tried to milk the series after FFX and do everything possible to put their brand on something, like KISS.

adamclark52
04-21-2014, 09:56 AM
:lol: Plus, so many games that not many people played or just weren't that memorable. Seems like they just tried to milk the series after FFX and do everything possible to put their brand on something, like KISS.

I don't think North Americans realize just how HUGE this series is in Japan.

adamclark52
04-21-2014, 11:00 AM
http://vgboxart.com/boxes/PSP/32386-dissidia-final-fantasy.png?t=1252380784
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH17GsatOnw)
Dissidia Final Fantasy
Japanese Release Date: December 18th, 2008
North American Release Date: August 25th, 2009
Original Platform: Playstation Portable

Iíve never played this game but I know it features characters and locations from all the numbered entries. I think it may be a fighting game or something. Iím very interested because it seems like it may be a nice homage to the entire series but Iím not buying a new system for one game. Especially if itís a fighting game (which I donít like) and thereís a good chance Iíll be disappointed. Although the amount of times Iíve said ďIím not buying a system for one gameĒ is a moot point now since Iíve probably said it for five PSP games and five DS games.

Best Song: Main Theme of Final Fantasy IV -Arrange- (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxgRwCMguzc)
Coolest Character (Based off actions in previous games): Sephiroth
Lamest Character (Based off actions in previous games): Tidus
Gameplay Demo: Tidus verses Jecht (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoTdB0WTXX4)

http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101002233636/finalfantasy/images/b/be/DissidiaChaos.png
Final Boss: Chaos

John The Drummer
04-21-2014, 12:16 PM
Dissidia Final Fantasy


Although the amount of times Iíve said ďIím not buying a system for one gameĒ is a moot point now since Iíve probably said it for five PSP games and five DS games.



:lol:

This game didn't look too bad. I think it got some "OK" reviews, but wasn't gronudbreaking or anything special... still seems like a ton of fun though, if at least for just a short while :) . I'm sure it's better than that other Fighting game that featured a few Final Fantasy characters.... Einhergiz or something like that?

adamclark52
04-22-2014, 12:53 AM
http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100821193430/finalfantasy/images/6/66/EOT_america_Wii.jpeg

Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Echoes of Time
Japanese Release Date: January 29th, 2009
North American Release Date: March 24th, 2009
Original Platform: Nintendo Wii, Ninetendo DS

Gameplay Demo: Ice Mountain (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7in0GS6eOc)

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091219052351/finalfantasy/images/b/b1/Larkeicus_Final.png
Final Boss: Larkeicus

adamclark52
04-22-2014, 12:59 AM
http://static.gamespot.com/uploads/scale_medium/mig/2/0/3/3/2222033-jaquette_final_fantasy_crystal_chronicles_my_life_ as_a_darklord_wii_cover_avant_g.jpg

Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: My Life as a Darklord
Japanese Release Date: June 30th, 2009
North American Release Date: July 20th, 2009
Original Platform: Nintendo Wii

Gameplay Demo: ??? Building a tower ??? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jx2afaWgMLw)

http://admintell.napco.com/ee/images/uploads/gamertell/king_leo.jpg
Final Boss: King Leo...really?

John The Drummer
04-22-2014, 09:24 AM
JESUS! I had no idea there were THAT MANY Crystal Chronicle games :lol: :eeks: .... I'm sure you aren't even done yet :eyes:

adamclark52
04-23-2014, 12:00 AM
http://talkingaboutgames.com/wp-content/themes/uploads/stories/games/f/ff4heroes/FF4cover.jpg

Final Fantasy: the 4 Heroes of Light
Japanese Release Date: October 29th, 2009
North American Release Date: October 5th, 2010
Original Platform: Nintendo DS

This game is very similar to the 'Adventure' title from the early nineties. Or at least that's what I've read. It doesn't look very good and the art style is atrocious.

Gameplay Demo: the beginning of the game (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25gD-PDkIyY)

http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110717232057/finalfantasy/images/4/46/FFT4HoL-Chaos.jpg
Final Boss: Chaos

adamclark52
04-23-2014, 12:07 AM
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090926203929/finalfantasy/images/5/5e/Ffccc-tcb_NAboxart.jpg

Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: the Crystal Bearers
Japanese Release Date: November 12th, 2009
North American Release Date: December 26th, 2009
Original Platform: Nintendo Wii

Three games for one series (any series) in one year seems like a lot to me. And who the hell releases anything the day after Christmas? At least the final boss in this one doesn't look like a spoony bard.

I actually read that this one was one of the better games in the Crystal Chronicles series. I've only seen this one gameplay video and it doesn't look as juvenile. But the music sucks. Who thought it would be a good idea to have ho-down music as battle music? Nobuo Uematsu would never pull that shit.

Gameplay Demo: running in a field (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjF0iqU-A0A)

http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100103070907/finalfantasy/images/0/09/Jegran_Last_form.jpg
Final Boss: Jegran

adamclark52
04-23-2014, 12:08 AM
Itís nextÖare you ready?

John The Drummer
04-23-2014, 09:42 AM
WOW! That boss in Crystal Bearers looks pretty intense! Imma look into that one some more :)

Itís nextÖare you ready?

I think I need an adult :(

smearCampaign
04-23-2014, 09:57 AM
I had to vote for VII for pure nostalgia. That game consumed was my whole Christmas break that year. FF7, MGS1 and C:SOTN were my favorites from the PS1 era.

From the main series I've only played 1-7, but between the original Tactics and the GBA version of Tactics I've poured more hours into the Tactics games than all other FFs combined.

adamclark52
04-23-2014, 10:13 AM
I had to vote for VII for pure nostalgia. That game consumed was my whole Christmas break that year. FF7, MGS1 and C:SOTN were my favorites from the PS1 era.

From the main series I've only played 1-7, but between the original Tactics and the GBA version of Tactics I've poured more hours into the Tactics games than all other FFs combined.

Tactics deserves love.

VII does hold my all-time geek gameplay record. I borrowed it from a friend on a Friday and played from six until midnight. I got up at 7am Saturday and played until midnight again. Then got up at 7am on Sunday and played until 10pm. Then got home from school everyday at 4pm that week and played until 10pm every night. I think I finished the game the following Saturday.

John The Drummer
04-23-2014, 10:17 AM
I remember my friends Mom rented us Tactics on accident, thinking it was FF VIII. We were pissed, but still played it all night long and kept amused :lol: . Dont remember much about it thuogh :(

adamclark52
04-23-2014, 10:22 AM
I think I need an adult :(

You know what man, I'm not going to be as mean as you think. I'm not going to be too nice either. I don't know what I am. That's a running theme with me and XIII.

adamclark52
04-23-2014, 10:23 AM
I remember my friends Mom rented us Tactics on accident, thinking it was FF VIII. We were pissed, but still played it all night long and kept amused :lol: . Dont remember much about it thuogh :(

It's like playing chess. That's the best way I can describe it.

John The Drummer
04-23-2014, 10:30 AM
You know what man, I'm not going to be as mean as you think. I'm not going to be too nice either. I don't know what I am. That's a running theme with me and XIII.

:lol: I know that A LOT of people didn't think too highly of XIII, though. I didn't think it was TOO bad, as I said, and really enjoyed it. Didn't pay too much attention to the story, but I thought the graphics and scenery were just AMAZING.

adamclark52
04-23-2014, 10:51 AM
Why keep the one person who's waiting waiting?

http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091202140204/finalfantasy/images/5/58/North_America_PS3_boxart.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMacrDEwwsU)

Final Fantasy XIII
Japanese Release Date: December 17th, 2009
North American Release Date: March 9th, 2010
Original Platforms: Sony Playstation 3, Xbox 360

This game is really the whole reason I started this thread. I’ve lived with it for four years now. And sometimes you just need to talk about things. Is there a more polarizing game in the whole Final Fantasy series? I really don’t think so. Many people (mostly older fans) hated this game from the word go; whereas younger gamers embraced and loved it. I’m so confused by this game that I don’t even know what to think.

On the one hand the game looks beautiful (which is to be expected with every Final Fantasy). The environments, character design and creature design are toned down a bit from the last numbered title (XII) and it just looks…great. The music is phenomenal too. It’s more electronic based but it may be one of the best soundtracks in the whole series. And the actual gameplay is really well done. It’s essentially a button-masher (you’ll wear out your X button) but it does require some thought and skill. They got rid of Magic Points, which was actually a good idea that was long over-due. Really, if I was a wizard in real life I’m sure I'd be able to cast a spell as much as I damn well pleased. Not run out of “power” and be unable to. The Crystalarium leveling system is really great. Similar to the Sphere Grid in FFX but a little more flexibility. And thank god that after over twenty years they FINALLY decided that characters not in your immediate party got the same amount of experience as your other characters. No more needing to use someone you never used and having them way under-leveled.

But then…there’s the bad. The biggest criticism was that the game was very linear. Your goal is to get from point A to point B; wash, rinse, repeat. Remember how in my intro to this whole thread I spoke of how Final Fantasy II (IV) was the first time I’d ever seen a game that wasn’t just “walk from left to right”? Well this game wasn’t that bad but it really was close. Just walk, walk, get there…then walk some more. No looking back. Grinding was unnecessary, buying items or upgrading weapons was a waste of time. There were no towns, no dungeons, no airships, no exploring, no point "C". Basically nothing that Final Fantasy fans were used to. Until the last quarter of the game when the world opened up a bit. But not as much as people will have you believe. It was just a breath of fresh air after thirty hours of running forward. The story is a mess of confusion and stuff that’s really hard for me to give two shits about. I really never knew in the end, even after two playthroughs, the answer to one lingering question: why? Why do I care? What am I fighting for? Who the hell is that guy? What is he talking about? And how, how have I spent sixty hours sitting through this? And my biggest complaint was that it had some of the worst characters ever in a Final Fantasy. There has always been one character in a game (Rikku, Edward) that I wanted to strangle. This game had three out of six characters (so half your party) that I hated from the get go. Lightning was such a boring bitch, who wanted to be around her? And she was the star of the game! Snow was just a fucking moron who needed to shut up and die. And Vanille. Dear god, Vanille. She gets introduced about fifteen minutes into the game and when I met her I knew it was going to be a LOOOOONG trip. Dear god was it ever. The WWE and Squaresoft are the only two companies in the world that can make hot girls unbearable. Hope probably would've been annoying but put up against those three he was just unnoticeable. There were so few characters in this game. No “strange old dude who gave you advice at random”. No “joke character that shows up from time-to-time to break the seriousness of the mood”. It was just your six characters walking, and the one bad guy blocking your path. There were other NPC’s but they were so insignificant that they may as well as not have been there. It’s a lonely game.

I often wonder that if this game had of been released under a different title (as in, not “Final Fantasy”) if people would’ve enjoyed it more. Then again, if it hadn’t been released as a Final Fantasy I probably would’ve never played it. I can’t say if this ranks in the top half or bottom half of Final Fantasy for me. I love it and I hate it all at the same time. I love listening to the music and playing the game but I hate the story and the cutscenes. The prelude (click on the box art) still sends shivers up my spine. But Snow riding an Esper/motorcycle screaming in his surfer voice about being the hero makes me sigh and wish for the days when I was reading text on a blue background. So that's why I have to give it a 2.5, right in the middle...indifferent.

I will admit that my second playthrough three years later was much better because I didn't have my hopes as high as at first. You gotta remember, this followed up my favorite game in the series EVER (XII, which was like five pages ago since I missed so many games in between). Had I reviewed this after my first play it would've probably gotten a 1.5 and a lot more venom.

Much like Final Fantasy X (which wasn’t that great but somehow garnered a sequel) this game has somehow managed to get two sequels.

Favorite Moment: Oerba is a beautiful place, and after such a long time you learn that while Vanille is a moron she does have a tragic past.
Best Song: so many to choose from, but when Dust to Dust (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5iQASUMQZs) was playing (in Oerba) it was the first time in the game that I said ”wow”
Coolest Character: Rygdea was actually pretty cool (for the ten minutes he was in the game)
Lamest Character: Vanille
Average Completion Time: 65 hours
Gameplay Demo: the first stage of the game (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9cQZ9A1VkI)
Rating: 2.5 out of 5

http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140226213059/finalfantasy/images/d/d0/Orphan2ndBattle.png
Final Boss: Orphan

John The Drummer
04-23-2014, 12:21 PM
That's the final boss? Damn, kinda lame, but cool at the same time :). I think I was stuck on Disc 2 because I couldn't beat the goddamn element changing boss in that one spot where you just walking up and up and up and up (I think) :p

Anyway, I agree on most of the aspects of this. I think the thing that truly kept me playing were the graphics and gameplay and trying to master the battle system... not so much the story or characters at all. Obviously looking at it that way makes me give it a SMALL bit of a higher score, but not too much higher. Overall, good breakdown of the game! I don't think the "Go from left to right" bothered me too much because I sometimes prefer more simple straight forward games (which is why I purchase more DS games than 360, more simple and pick up and play), and this game was def more straight forward than all the previous. I still want to go back and play it some more, but just can't find the energy to do it.

John The Drummer
04-24-2014, 09:56 AM
This thread really makes me want to do a History of Resident Evil or Grand Theft Auto... but sadly I stopped playing the RE's at RE4 and never played the any GTA's before 3 :(

adamclark52
04-24-2014, 04:28 PM
This thread really makes me want to do a History of Resident Evil or Grand Theft Auto... but sadly I stopped playing the RE's at RE4 and never played the any GTA's before 3 :(

Go for it. How many Final Fantasies have I skipped and did that stop me?

adamclark52
04-24-2014, 04:34 PM
http://i.neoseeker.com/boxshots/R2FtZXMvUEMvUm9sZS1QbGF5aW5nL01hc3NpdmVseV9NdWx0aX BsYXllcg==/final_fantasy_xiv_online_frontcover_large_0bDYe2R9 KmzIpnB.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq759wHEtiM)

Final Fantasy XIV: Online
Release Date: September 30th, 2010
Original Platform: Microsoft Windows

This game just seems fishy to me. They already had a MMORPG set in the Final Fantasy universe, why release a second one? Why not just improve on the original? No thanks, pass.

Gameplay Demo: "battles, mining and fishing" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dvuraip7A0), that's what the description says

http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120727184547/finalfantasy/images/a/a8/FFXIV_Nael_Deus_Darnus_Battle.jpg
Final Boss: Nael Deus Darnus

adamclark52
04-24-2014, 04:54 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/64/Dissidia_Duodecim_012_Final_Fantasy.png (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ah2ZM2uT54s)

Dissidia 012 Final Fantasy
Japanese Release Date: March 3rd, 2011
North American Release Date: March 22nd, 2011
Original Platform: Playstation Portable

An prequel to the first which would maybe be more fun since it has more characters and locations from past games. It has Lightning (from XIII)Öbecause we can never get enough of her.
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Are you serious? How has that goof become the poster-child for Final Fantasy? If anyone should be the face of Final Fantasy it should be Cloud, Sephiroth, Garland, Kefka, a nameless warrior or even Aerith. Not one of the worst leads in the series' history. But I think she gives Japanese boys wood so they keep her around.

Coolest Character (Based off actions in previous games): Sephiroth
Lamest Character (Based off actions in previous games): Tidus
Gameplay Demo: Terra verses Lightning (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvavBDtZ7iY)...I hope Terra kicks her ass

http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110406195522/finalfantasy/images/1/18/EmpyrealParadox-WarriorsOfChaos.PNG
Final Boss: Chaos' Elite Warriors (The Emperor, Kefka, Garland, Ultimecia and the Cloud of Darkness (looking as hot as always))

John The Drummer
04-24-2014, 05:31 PM
Final Fantasy XIV came out in 2010!??? Where have I been!?!?!? :eyes:

adamclark52
04-24-2014, 09:53 PM
Final Fantasy XIV came out in 2010!??? Where have I been!?!?!? :eyes:

Well yes, but it got relaunched a few years later. I'll get to that.

adamclark52
04-25-2014, 05:22 PM
http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110727091846/finalfantasy/images/4/49/Final_Fantasy_Type-0.png (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eT3OvRff-Q)

Final Fantasy Type-O
Japanese Release Date: October 27th, 2011
Original Platform: Playstation Portable

All I know about this game is that it was only released in Japan and it's set in the XIII universe but doesn't have Lightning. "doesn't have Lightning". That's enough to sell it to me.

Gameplay Demo: second mission (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdW2wE1lo8A)

http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120526042224/finalfantasy/images/0/06/Type-0_Final_Boss.png
Final Boss: l'Cie Arbitor of the Lulusath

John The Drummer
04-25-2014, 05:34 PM
Looks like a rad final boss... but what's with everyone dressed as a school girl!? :bouville:

adamclark52
04-25-2014, 05:40 PM
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-mpxraTXa9f4/Tq_xjVD8dTI/AAAAAAAAETg/jiu034_-ayM/81%25252BKEp6nSvL._AA1500_.jpg

Final Fantasy XIII-2
Japanese Release Date: December 15th, 2011
North American Release Date: January 31st, 2011
Original Platforms: Sony Playstation 3, Xbox 360

This game caught me by surprise. I actually LIKED it. Like I said, Iím not sure some times how I felt about Final Fantasy XIII but Iím pretty sure I didnít like it. But this was a great game. It wasnít just because Snow, Lighting and Vanille have small or nonexistent roles. It was just that it took me back to a few of the places that I loved in XIII, it had a bad guy who wasnít a pseudo-homo, the new character Noel was actually cool and Serah (this is the biggest surprise) was actually a LIKEABLE character as well. And they kept everything I liked from Final Fantasy XIII; the same combat, the Crystalarium leveling system and the same design. I didnít know what to think with this game. Not to mention a great soundtrack, which leaned more to the electronic side of things but was welcomed. I was shocked. The story is a bit hard to follow thanks to the time traveling. Having to pay for DLC to get the true game was a huge rip-off. And since it was a sequel to XIII there was a lot of the story that was brought over from that game, and I just didnít care. I canít say to just play this one without playing XIII because youíll be lost. But if you were burned by XIII donít NOT play this game. I couldnít believe that not only did I like it but how MUCH I liked it.

Favorite Moment: going back to Oerba in 200AF was very emotional
Best Song: Village & Void (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkT9yjhBC3I)
Coolest Character: Noel
Lamest Character: Snow
Gameplay Demo: random Japanese gameplay (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4hbBH5AX34), seems a bit slow to me though
Rating: 4 out of 5

http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/ONFLgpu7KPo/maxresdefault.jpg
Final Boss(es): Garnet Bahamut (support), Jet Bahamut and Amber Bahamut (support)

adamclark52
04-25-2014, 05:41 PM
Looks like a rad final boss... but what's with everyone dressed as a school girl!? :bouville:

It's Japanese.

http://wanna-joke.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/funny-picture-japanese-games-small-boobs.jpg

adamclark52
04-25-2014, 09:10 PM
I watched Advent Children tonight and updated my review. (http://www.metalsetlists.com/showpost.php?p=568178&postcount=66)

John The Drummer
04-26-2014, 10:23 AM
I watched Advent Children tonight and updated my review. (http://www.metalsetlists.com/showpost.php?p=568178&postcount=66)

Good man! See, it wasn't that bad :)
I had to watch it a couple times to fully grasp WTF was going on (I think I got thrown off in the Lost City part, couldn't tell if there was a flashback or what), but it certainly blew Spirits Within away.

adamclark52
04-26-2014, 01:14 PM
Good man! See, it wasn't that bad :)
I had to watch it a couple times to fully grasp WTF was going on (I think I got thrown off in the Lost City part, couldn't tell if there was a flashback or what), but it certainly blew Spirits Within away.

No, it was actually really good. The key with Final Fantasy now for me is to go in with very low expectations. It did that with XIII-2 and I think that helped me enjoy it more. But I went in to XIII with very high expectations and got burned.

I'm actually thinking about giving Spirits Within another shot. But only if my brother has it or I can find some other way to watch it for free (even though the DVD is probably five dollars at Wal-Mart).

John The Drummer
04-26-2014, 04:11 PM
No, it was actually really good. The key with Final Fantasy now for me is to go in with very low expectations. It did that with XIII-2 and I think that helped me enjoy it more. But I went in to XIII with very high expectations and got burned.

I'm actually thinking about giving Spirits Within another shot. But only if my brother has it or I can find some other way to watch it for free (even though the DVD is probably five dollars at Wal-Mart).

Crackle movie app on Xbox Live might have Spirits Within still, that's where I saw it.

Dextrimental
04-26-2014, 05:00 PM
I have a soft spot for Spirits Within.

Great thread, btw. I'm not able to be as active as I'd like right now but rest assured I'll be giving my two cents on everything (and continuing my movie thread) when I have more time and less on my mind!

adamclark52
04-26-2014, 05:17 PM
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130116204551/finalfantasy/images/d/df/FFATB_Logo.png

Final Fantasy All the Bravest
Release Date: January 17th, 2013
Original Platform: iOS

This is just a cheesy iOS game that requires zero strategy and skill. But for a time-waster and a free download you can’t go wrong. Just don’t get suckered into buying any extras. They’re random; so the chances of you getting that one character you want are one in thirty-two. Even it it’s a dollar that’s not a risk I’d want to take. And they’re useless. You can very easily beat this game with what you get for free. This game did pay tribute to the early days of the series in very, very small doses. Just by using enemies and locations. It went up to around VI, I believe. Although paid content went as far as XIII...because, you know...Lightning. Since I’ll never play those Dissidia games this was the nicest homage to the series I've seen.

Coolest Character Class: the Onion Knight
Lamest Character Class: the Bard
Gameplay Demo: first bit of the game (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCKFI5e1MR4)
Rating: 2 out of 5

http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070304232233/finalfantasy/images/0/09/FFV-NeoExdeath.gif
Final Boss: Neo Exdeath

adamclark52
04-26-2014, 05:30 PM
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Final Fantasy Tactics S
Japanese Release Date: May 28th, 2013
Original Platform: iOS

I donít even know what this is. Iíd never heard about it until I started doing research for this thread. Since it's a Japan-only release I strongly doubt I'll ever play it.

Gameplay Demo: all I could find in the alloted fifteen seconds I gave this game was the Japanese trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE1BTw3Oa40).

http://www.allmystery.de/dateien/rs56703,1253657003,cosplay-sailor-moon.jpg
Final Boss: I don't think there is one, so here's a picture of some guy dressed like Sailor Moon instead

adamclark52
04-26-2014, 05:46 PM
http://gematsu.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/FFARR_05-23.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lz7Q93oPkoA)

Final Fantasy XIV: a Realm Reborn
Worldwide Release Date: August 27th, 2013
Original Platform: Microsoft Windows
Rereleased on: Sony Playstation 4

I heard the first incarnation of this game was terrible so they had to reboot it a few years later. That was good unless you had a character from the first version, which you lost or something. Sounds bad to me. Another reason not to play MMORPGS. It does look to be more "Final Fantasy" than XIII was and XV will be but again; I can't pay for a game then pay to PLAY the game.

Gameplay Demo: ...it does look good though (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgM9uxOJ2FE)

http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130823074256/finalfantasy/images/0/05/MaskedMage.png
Final Boss (storyline): Lahabrea

adamclark52
04-26-2014, 05:54 PM
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Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII
Japanese Release Date: November 21st, 2013
North American Release Date: February 11th, 2014
Original Platforms: Sony Playstation 3, Xbox 360

The finale to the Lightning Saga, or the Fabulous Crystals Nova Saga, or whatever the fuck this debacle is called. Thank fucking god we can (hopefully) put Final Fantasy XIII behind us and move on to the gayer pastures of XV. I was eagerly anticipating this game a year before it came out...then it came out and I forgot. Then I realized that I really just didnít care. I donít care how Lightningsí story ends because I didnít like her. I donít care if Vanille and Fang get rescued from crystal status because I hated Vanille and Fang wears a sports-bra (seriously?). I do want to know what the hell happens with Serah but anything involving her involves that bozo Snow and I could give a flying fuck about that guy (his character design in this game is somehow even more ridiculous than before (http://www.novacrystallis.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Snow-Summary.jpg), mixing the Turks from VII with those three Sephiroth Remenants from Advent Children with (probably) his terrible dialogue). I do want to see how Noels story plays out but thatís not enough for me to run out and buy this. I know Iíll play this but Iím at a point with this series where I can wait for it on a bargain bin, a used shelf or get it as a gift. Which I am next month. Plus this game has dresses, much like X-2. So Lightning and dresses. Lot's for me to look forward too.

Gameplay Demo: E3 Demo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LExLeRPaNWM)

[EDIT: June 22nd, 2014]

This game blows.

I tried to like this game and this game had the potential for me to like it. But it didnít want me to like it.

The biggest problem was something Iíve gone on about hating a lot in this thread: the whole game is a battle against a clock. Battles against the clock are bad because I hate being rushed. But when the whole game is a battle against the clock...dear god. The clock runs out: game over. The story is set up that the world is ending in five days and Lightning has to save it. You can extend the clock by doing quests for NPCís but eventually I want to play some real game. You still had your eye on the clock and were sweating and rushing the whole time. I donít like rushing during a Final Fantasy game. Thereís the option of restating the game with all your items and powers if the clock runs out but who wants to keep playing the same scenarios over and over and over? It was a very broken mechanic that just dragged the whole game down with it.

The combat was fucking brutal. It was as lightning fast and chaotic as XIII and XIII-2 except this time it expected you to actually have strategy and keep your eye on everything during those lightning fast fights. And since the game was open-ended you ended up in a lot of scenarios where Lightning was pathetically weak (because you donít gain levels by fighting, you gain them by doing the NPC sidequests) that I ended up just running. But running from battles ate up an hour of your already short clock. And ten hours in I never got a CURE spell. So I had six potions (all I was allowed to carry) and my fingers crossed the whole time I was in areas with enemies. Again, I donít care if they wanted to do the combat this way but the fucking clock killed me. I donít want to get into because it sucked so much, but dear fucking god it was brutal.

The games armor and weapons are set up in a sort of dressphere method, not unlike X-2. So yeah, just wanted I always wanted to do: play dress up with Lightning. The animators did a good job in the first two games of not sexing Lighting up too much. Not this time. They went full on Japanese virgin. It's really pretty sad to see such a serious, important character reduced to a Barbie doll. I hate her but she deserves better than this. Jesus Christ at the beginning of the second game she was in a life or death battle with some Bahumat or something and it was insane. Now sheís totally Loliíd up with cool sunglasses and thigh-high skirts. You can pay a fortune for more dresses online but if I'm going to pay for outfits in a Final fantasy I'm going to pay for this one (http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130124050038/finalfantasy/images/8/87/Serah_Farron_-_Beachwear.png) from XIII-2, a game I enjoyed.

The story I never got too much in to because I actually said, ďfuck thisĒ about ten hours into the game. Thatís bad. I at least saw Final Fantasy X-2 to the end. But this just sucked so much.

If there is anything good I can say about this game itís the environmental design was AWESOME. Not only does this game have cities (something XIII didn't and XIII-2 barely did) but it has the two nicest cities I've seen in a Final Fantasy (Luxerion and Yusnaan). They were huge and full of people and stuff to do. Most of my time was spent running around those cities waiting for the clock to hit a certain hour and open a door or something. And it was enjoyable and something I could do all night. It's too bad that clock is staring at you the whole time you're playing. I really would've liked to have spent a lot more time exploring those cities. There were some nice little moments in amongst the citizens (like that guy singing in Luxerion, that couple on a date in Yusnaan) that made the cities feel like real places and the people feel like real people. Instead of the old fashion people who said the same sentence every time you spoke to them. I think there are more well designed areas but I never got that far.

The ONLY things that keep this game from being worse than X-2 is that it has that great level design and overall design, unlike X-2's J-Pop barf. And I didn't pay for it.

They really dropped the ball with the Lightning trilogy. They could've taken the music, combat and game design of the first game, the characters and story of the second game and the environments of the third game and made one really good game. Instead they made one good game (XIII-2), one bad game (XIII) and one complete mess of shit (XIII-3). I donít see how anyone could play this game and say it was worth ever being brought to life. I wasnít a fan of XIII but even it didnít deserve a broken sequel like this. Maybe I was doing something wrong and I'm confused and missing out. I think I may be because something just doesn't feel right here. But it wasnít working for me. So for the time being fuck this game, fuck Lightning and fuck this shit game.

Favorite Moment: I liked that bard in Luxerion
Best Song: the Savior's Words (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJISwauB9uM)
Coolest Character: fucked if I know
Lamest Character: who knows, probably Vanille
Average Completion Time: unknown, but I got ten hours in and I think I was a quarter of the way through
Rating: 1 out of 5

If you're gonna play a sandbox game (this game is very sandbox) go play a Grand Theft Auto.

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131201052918/finalfantasy/images/6/68/Bhunivelze_Form_4.png
Final Boss: Bhunivelze

adamclark52
04-26-2014, 06:02 PM
So that's it for games. I'm going to do some "awards" over the next week to close this thread out. Here's the catagories. You can suggest as many winners as you'd like but I'm the Academy of this thread so the winners are chosen pretty much by me. Because I rule.

Best Game
Best Character
Best Villain
Best Musical Piece
Best Soundtrack
Best Moment
Second Best Character (character who wasnít the best character in their game but still ruled)
Best Female Character
Best City/Town/Castle
Best Class/Job
Worst Game
Worst Character
Worst Villain
Worst Moment
Most "Confused" Character
Most Useless Character
Worst Class/Job

adamclark52
04-27-2014, 06:29 PM
Best Class/Job
Nominees: Black Mage (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Black_Mage_(Job)), Dragoon (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Dragoon_(Job)), Onion Knight (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Onion_Knight_(Job)), Thief (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Thief_(Job)), White Mage (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/White_Mage)

Black Mages are great when youíre fighting an enemy with a specific weakness. But what about when youíre fighting an enemy with no elemental weakness? That Myrthril Dagger doesnít pack too much punch. Iíve had a soft spot for Dragoons since Final Fantasy IV since my favorite character in that game (Kain) was a dragoon. He was like a Knight mixed with a Ninja. Onion Knights are awesome but usually come so late in the game that by the time you get them youíre already pretty powerful. And the Thief is essential for getting some of the better equipment in games, and in later games like XII essential if you even want to have any source of income.


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All those are great but without a White Mage YOU WILL DIE. Having good armor will keep you alive longer, being able to thwart your enemies with a few spells is great and being able to act before your opponent is essential. But when the enemy is beating the crap out of you none of that will matter unless you have a White Mage to keep you alive. Her attack, defense and speed are always low and a lot of the time youíll be using her to keep herself alive. But when you have ten hit points left in the middle of a battle stealing an item or using Fire3 wonít do you much good if the enemyís next hit takes you out.

mankvill
04-27-2014, 06:33 PM
Best Flash Animation Using Final Fantasy Sprites

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adamclark52
04-27-2014, 06:36 PM
Worst Class/Job
Nominees: Bard (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Bard), Beastmaster (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Beastmaster_(Job)), Dancer (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Dancer_(Job)), Geomancer (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Geomancer), Scholar (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Scholar)

The amount of useless classes and jobs in Final Fantasy far outweighs the useful ones. You really can get by with the simple default party from the first Final Fantasy of Warrior/Thief/White Mage/Black Mage. But over the years lots have been added and some are cool. Not these five. I never understood the point of the Beastmaster class. He uses animals to aid in his attacks; which are weaker then a basic Warriors. And he equips most of the same gear as the Warrior but just isn’t as powerful with them. The Dancer is like a White Mage without the useful spells. A few random charm spells really don’t help that much. The Geomancer is cooler in concept that execution. Much like the Beastmaster, she’s just a less powerful warrior. And the Scholar is just a mind-fuck. His attacks just seem so random that maybe if you really put the time into developing him they may be useful. “Ain’t nobody got time fo’ that” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGxwbhkDjZM). And wow, the ability to double the effect of potions. That Heal potion giving me 200HP will really help out when Ultima Weapons attacks are thwapping me for 5000HP.

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But is it a surprise that the Bard comes out as the most useless class in the history of Final Fantasy? Weaker than almost any class physically, with the ability to take as much punishment as a marshmallow and useless, useless skills. And harps as his weapon. The Bard has never been able to recover from his most prolific day as Edward in Final Fantasy IV. It’s almost as if he’s put in games as a joke.

adamclark52
04-28-2014, 11:07 AM
Best Villain
Nominees: Garland (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Garland_(Final_Fantasy)) (Final Fantasy), Golbez (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Golbez) (Final Fantasy IV), Kefka (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Kefka_Palazzo) (Final Fantasy VI), Sephiroth (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Sephiroth_(Final_Fantasy_VII)) (Final Fantasy VII), Sin (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Sin) (Final Fantasy X)

All these guys were badass. Garland seemed like a putz at first but once you got into the game you realized that he may have been a pawn, but he was a very dangerous pawn. Golbez has a special place in my heart. The dick always showed up just when you thought you could take a breath and fucked everything up. Sephiroth, what more can be said about Sephiroth? This image tells it al (http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130202090930/finalfantasy/images/f/f4/Sephiroth.jpg)l. And Sin was just an unstoppable, silent beast that wrought destruction wherever it went. And what a cool name?


http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20060809015647/finalfantasy/images/1/17/Kefka_-_Laugh.gif
But Kefka will always be my favorite villain. He’s maniacal (not unlike Batman’s Joker), cruel, a bit of a dork. But above all he does one thing that no other Final Fantasy villain was able to do: he actually destroyed the world. Even though everything falls apart in the Dark World of Final Fantasy VI and his role is greatly reduced he stands above the world on a pile of destruction as the one villain who accomplished what he set out to do.

adamclark52
04-28-2014, 11:14 AM
Worst Villain
Nominees: Zemus (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Zemus) (Final Fantasy IV), Gilgamesh (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Gilgamesh_(Character)) (multiple Final Fantasies), Seymour (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Seymour_Guado) (Final Fantasy X), Necron (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Necron) (Final Fantasy IX), Barthandelus (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Barthandelus) (Final Fantasy XIII)

All these villains are bad enough but have certain something’s holding them back from attaining greatness. Zemus just shows up at the end of the game unexplained (a scenario all too familiar in Final Fantasy games) and has zero back-story. The same could be said for Necron but he seems to be a lot more badass. Gilgamesh, I think, is supposed to be a joke. So maybe he shouldn’t be nominated. But it’s fitting for the character that he is to be nominated. And Barthandelus is the rock that blocks you path and you never really know why.


http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120508213747/finalfantasy/images/4/4c/Seymour_Guado_Battle_Render.png
Seymour wins for not only being a complete putz and a pawn but for have a strange character render where he always looked to me to have a huge beer gut. And a voice befitting Edward.

John The Drummer
04-28-2014, 11:52 AM
I forgot how often GOlbez made me rage in FFIV :bouville:

adamclark52
04-29-2014, 09:47 AM
Best Moment
Nominees: Final Fantasy IV’s ending (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5aAwfqTwvU), Sephiroth in flames (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlYQGpZlLPU) (Final Fantasy VII), aftermath of the battle with Sin (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMF2P_MXXCc) (Final Fantasy X), arriving in Oerba (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzi2O9vsQ3w) (Final Fantasy XIII), Final Fantasy VI’s intro (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OU1W7b4B2tY)

Final Fantasy is full of great moments. Some people will say that this whole category could be moments from Final Fantasy VII alone. But that’s just not fair. Final Fantasy IV’s ending was a perfect ending for a game. Everyone (except Kain) had great closure to their stories and it left me feeling happy…and empty because my favorite game at the time was over. The aftermath of the battle with Sin was great just because you realize just how powerful that creature was. Usually you got out of battles pretty beaten up, but alive. Not that battle. It fucked everything up. Arriving in Oerba was a very emotional moment in Final Fantasy XIII. It looked like it was once a beautiful place now overrun with sadness. The fact that it’s music plays during battles was even more special. And people wonder how I can consider the intro to Final Fantasy VI as my favorite moment when there’s so much greatness to follow. I just loved it because it was the start of something special.

http://www.ffshrine.org/ff7/fmvshots-d1/16-sephiroth-in-the-flames/00006.jpg
But Sephiroth in flames during his destruction of Nibelheim was just so iconic and awesome that there’s no way it can’t win this category. It’s at that moment that you realize just how bad that man is. And that is the moment Final Fantasy VII goes from “pretty good” to “goddamn awesome”.

adamclark52
04-29-2014, 09:53 AM
Worst Moment
Nominees: The intro to X-2 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbMbBV3ozHw), The laugh scene in X (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5FTJxfV3pc&feature=player_embedded), The Marsh Cave (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Smxr0W9Xazo) difficulty spike (Final Fantasy), struggling to get to the next area in Final Fantasy II and realizing how weak you still are, still getting your ass kicked in Final Fantasy XII no matter how strong you are

This is a bit of a throwaway category. There really only needed to be two nominees. The March Cave difficulty spike is just more frustrating than anything. The same can be said about just constantly getting you ass kicked in Final Fantasy II. And it’s hard to say anything bad about Final Fantasy XII but the fact that I was in level 99 on my last playthrough and STILL had a hard time with some enemies was just lame. The real nominees: the intro to Final Fantasy X-2 is nauseating. I remember starting that game up and not expecting too much. But I wasn’t expecting…THAT. How the hell did Yuna go from being a Summoner with the weight of saving the world on her shoulders to a J-Pop idol? It was only downhill from there.


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But even worse that infamous scene in Final Fantasy X. I’ve had people tell me it’s supposed to be awkward to symbolize two people with so much on their plates who just need to let it all out when it’s become too much. Whatever. I see it as after playing through a somewhat unenjoyable game for twenty or thirty hours THAT happens. You’re left looking at the screen in awe. Not because it’s awesome. Because you can’t fucking believe what you’re watching. There’s a reason that scene gets made fun of so much. It’s that bad.

John The Drummer
04-29-2014, 11:16 AM
Come on now, we all know the best moment was when you had to dress Cloud up as a woman in Wall Market (?) and break into that dudes mansion! :D

adamclark52
04-29-2014, 11:53 AM
Come on now, we all know the best moment was when you had to dress Cloud up as a woman in Wall Market (?) and break into that dudes mansion! :D

http://www.cosplayisland.co.uk/files/costumes/968/34250/__1.jpg

I guess VII wasn't all that great.

adamclark52
04-29-2014, 11:31 PM
Best Song
Nominees: Tears of Sorrow (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3t_FtHNblk) (Final Fantasy IV), Tina (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7RPY-oiDAQ) (Final Fantasy VI), Who...Are You? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK84iaAjI2c) (Final Fantasy VII), The Promised Land (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvYh3uQpqXc) (Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children), Dust to Dust (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5iQASUMQZs) (Final Fantasy XIII)

To pick out just five songs from the vast library of Final Fantasy was a hard task. To pick out five songs FROM JUST ONE GAME is really hard. But I did it. The song Tina goes hand-in-hand with the intro from the Final Fantasy VI. When they played that song at the Distant World show I was at two years ago is when it really hit me how great that song is. Who…Are You? is just a creepy classic. Not the first song people pick from Final Fantasy VII but it’s been my favorite for years. The Promised Land is a song I’m rather new with but it’s just great. And Dust to Dust is a classic for the same reason as Tina. When it happens is such a beautiful moment.


-3t_FtHNblk
Even at the age of eleven I was the morbid, depressed, anti-social fun-bag I am today. I’ve always been up for a good sad song. My favorite band is Godspeed You! Black Emperor and the reason I love them is when I feel sad they make me feel worse. So Tears of Sorrow, with it’s somber, plodding pace and depressing minor key was the clear-cut winner of this category twenty years before I even did this thread.

adamclark52
04-29-2014, 11:37 PM
Best Soundtrack
Nominees: Final Fantasy VII (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPx3h5bwXVQ&list=PL77D98F68F6DBB35D), Final Fantasy X (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lP_anjF6rA&list=PLEE9B8E4750CB344A), Final Fantasy XII (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKNZvy2YfUc&list=PL4253C5C473A12A64), Final Fantasy XIII (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIbo3Z7DmkQ&list=PL8AD300462D07864C), Final Fantasy XIII-2 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ltAMYmCMp8&list=PLC89930BA5903B838)

Now this…this is a tough one. One of the first things that drew me to Final Fantasy was the music. And even after the game is over I still have those easily at my disposal (since I can’t drive and play video games). And there are even games (as exemplified by my nominees) in the series that are bad but made memorable by a great soundtrack. The whole series could have been nominated in this category but there can only be five. Final Fantasy VII’s is very creepy and dark, which fits perfectly with the mood of the game. Final Fantasy X’s has a lot of great tracks and makes me remember a forgettable game. Final Fantasy XII's sounds to me what they were trying to do with the early NES titles. Only now they have the means to be able to do it. And Final Fantasy XIII-2’s was very different from most of the other soundtracks but was fun.


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The biggest surprise: Final Fantasy XIII actually wins a POSITIVE award. Yeah, the soundtrack was beautiful. Epic when it needed to be epic, madjestical when it needed to be madjestical. That game was flawed in so many ways but the soundtrack was a 5 out of 5.

John The Drummer
04-30-2014, 10:04 AM
It's good to know that XIII had something going for it! :D

I don't remember much of VIII's soundtrack, but I listened to it (well, watched a few reviews/videos) and totally remember loving the music it... nothing like VII at all, but still pretty cool :rocker:

adamclark52
04-30-2014, 10:38 AM
It's good to know that XIII had something going for it! :D

I don't remember much of VIII's soundtrack, but I listened to it (well, watched a few reviews/videos) and totally remember loving the music it... nothing like VII at all, but still pretty cool :rocker:

I'm just starting disc 2 of VIII and I've found the soundtrack not very good at all. There's been a couple good songs. But a lot less than your average Final Fantasy. I'm hoping something changes.

I've been enjoying playing it but it is a huge departure for the series. I'd say it's the least "Final Fantasy" of any game in the series, even XIII. I don't mind Squall at all. In fact, I kind of like him. Zell on the other hand reminds me of Pootchie.

adamclark52
04-30-2014, 11:45 PM
Best City/Town/Castle
Nominees: Rabanastre (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Royal_City_of_Rabanastre) (Final Fantasy XII), Oerba (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Oerba) (Final Fantasy XIII), South Figaro (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/South_Figaro) (Final Fantasy VI), Kaipo (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Kaipo) (Final Fantasy IV), Onrac (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Onrac) (Final Fantasy)

Oerba; again that city comes at the perfect time in Final Fantasy XIII. Everything is right with that townÖexcept that everything is fucked. South Figaro just has this feeling to me of what a town in a Final Fantasy should be like. There are a lot of great towns in Final Fantasy VI but it was the best of the best. I donít know why I like Kaipo so muchÖI just do. And Iíve always had a soft spot for water towns (despite the fact that Iím deathly afraid of water) and Onrac was a really great water town despite its small size.


http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100417014122/finalfantasy/images/7/72/Rabanastre2.jpg
There are a lot of other great towns in the series but Rabanastre encompasses everything I think a city in a Final Fantasy game should have. Itís huge, bustling with people, with buildings as high as the eye can see. And being in a newer game you get a real idea of the scope and shear size of the city. Thereís a lot more to the city than you can even explore in the game but what you do get to see is breathtaking.

adamclark52
04-30-2014, 11:56 PM
Best Esper (Besper?)
Nominees: Anima (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Anima_(Summon)) (Final Fantasy X), Ark (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Ark_(Summon)) (Final Fantasy IX), Knights of the Round (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Knights_of_the_Round_(Summon)) (Final Fantasy VII), Shiva (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Shiva) (multiple Final Fantasies), Zalera (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Zalera) ((Final Fantasy XII)

Espers, Summons, Guardian Forces, whatever they’re called. In a lot of games they’re pretty useless. But a lot of work goes in to them (and in to their animations for Final Fantasies VII thru X) so they deserve a special mention. Usually they’re some sort of creature, or hybrid of multiple creatures or mutation of a creature. So Ark gets a nod for being very different. It’s basically just an airship. But a very powerful airship that fucks shit up. Knights of the Round is one of the most famous of all the Espers and wins for being one of the first “very powerful giving damage over 9999” Espers. But it also loses for being the catalyst in the whole “summons that took for goddamn ever to do their thing”. Shiva is so fucking hot. There, I said it. I have a thing for blue chicks (thank you Mass Effect) and they never fail to make her hot, even in the pixilated days of the PSone summons. And Zalera is so grimy and dirty…plus he has a hot chick with him. Final Fantasy XII wins for having the greatest number of awesome Espers but he wins Final Fantasy XII.

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Anima wins for just encompassing everything that I love. It’s super metal, brOOTal, disgusting, tortured…and really fucking powerful. The design alone is fucking ridiculous. How can such a creature be confined by mere chains? And what monstrosity was powerful enough to confine it?

adamclark52
05-01-2014, 11:48 AM
Most ďConfusedĒ Character
Nominees: Gogo (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Gogo_(Final_Fantasy_VI)) (Final Fantasy VI), Kuja (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Kuja) (Final Fantasy IX), Seymour (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Seymour_Guado) (Final Fantasy X), Squall (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Squall_Leonhart) (Final Fantasy VII), Vaan (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Vaan) (Final Fantasy XII)

Gogo was pretty useless and no one knew what the hell his/her deal was. Even the game didnít know. ďShrouded in odd clothing... is this a man...? ...a woman...? ...or should we ask...?Ē Seymour wasnít as confused as he was confusing. Confusing as it, ďthis is the bad guy? How am I supposed to be afraid of him?Ē Squall confuses me to because he has two girls just throwing themselves at him and he canít seem to be bothered. Itís a good thing Final Fantasy VIII wasnít an open-ended RPG like Mass Effect, because Commander Sheppard would have been all over Quistis. Vaan is confused because he doesnít even know why heís there. Itís pretty bad that the lead in the game is reduced to a background character for most of the game and when he does speak its often with his foot in his mouth.


http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130625033509/finalfantasy/images/c/cd/Kuja-ffix-boss.png
Kuja wins. I just have to post a picture of him and I think you can see why.

adamclark52
05-01-2014, 11:57 AM
Most Useless Character
Nominees: Cid (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Cid_Pollendina) (Final Fantasy IV), Half the Cast of Final Fantasy VI (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Final_Fantasy_VI_Characters), Quina (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Quina_Quen) (Final Fantasy IX), Red XIII (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Red_XIII) (Final Fantasy VII), Wakka (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Wakka) (Final Fantasy X)

Cidís not as powerful as Cecil, he canít use any magic and his only skill is Scan, a spell that any mage can learn for less than 5MP. The skill was called ďPeepĒ in the SNES version of the game and given his facial expressions whenever he used it I think ďpeepingĒ was something he did quite often (if you catch my drift). Quina was just a sexless Blue Mage that liked to eat frogs. Kinda hard to take serious or want to have in your party. Red XIII just never seemed to have too much purpose in your party aside from having a dog by your side. And Wakka was crap.


http://thefbe.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/final-fantasy-vi-cast-of-characters-art.jpg
Itís too bad that half the cast in one of the best games in the series wins but itís the sad truth. Even in the World of Balance Gau, Strago, Relm and Mog are just place-fillers. Then in the World of Ruin everyone really has a bit of a purpose when youíre trying to find them. But after that they're all interchangeable. That was my one problem with Final Fantasy VI. Too many characters. Six characters (the Final Fantasy average) doesnít seem like much some times but fourteen is just way too damn many.

adamclark52
05-01-2014, 11:29 PM
Best Character
Nominees: Kain (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Kain_Highwind) (Final Fantasy IV), Orlandeau (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Cidolfus_Orlandeau) (Final Fantasy Tactics), Auron (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Auron) (Final Fantasy X), Reddas (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Reddas) (Final Fantasy XII), Noel (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Noel_Kreiss) (Final Fantasy XIII-2)

I always loved Kain because I’ve always loved the “conflicted anti-hero” type. Orlando was great because he didn’t just level the playing field; he tipped the scales in your favor BIG TIME. Auron was just fucking awesome. He reminds me of me playing Final Fantasy X. He’s there because he had to be. He didn’t want to be but things wouldn’t have worked out if he hadn’t been. Noel was just another piece of Final Fantasy XIII-2 that made it so much better than Final Fantasy XIII.


"A Judge Magister there was… Two years past, he took the Midlight Shard and used it not knowing what he did…and Nabudis was blown away. Cid ordered this of him to learn the Nethicite’s true power. That man swore never to let such terrible power be used again. He forsook his Judicer's plate, and his name."


http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100418013438/finalfantasy/images/7/74/Reddas2.jpg
Reddas (a supporting character nonetheless) was so awesome in the small part he played in Final Fantasy XII. The way he talked was so cool (I have a soft spot for Phil LaMarr) and his heroic fate came at a point where the game was getting a little boring and confusing. Reddas, I tip my cup intwist your direction. Your sacrifice not be vain your memory forever. Dost I even be making sense, I not know. Betwist I do know, Reddas...you rule.

adamclark52
05-01-2014, 11:41 PM
Worst Character
Nominees: Edward (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Edward_Chris_von_Muir) (Final Fantasy IV), Umaro (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Umaro) (Final Fantasy VI), Cait Sith (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Cait_Sith_(Final_Fantasy_VII)) (Final Fantasy VII), Rikku (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Rikku) (Final Fantasy X), Vanille (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Oerba_Dia_Vanille) (Final Fantasy XIII)

Edward is useless but heís almost a supporting character so I feel more sorry for the putz than anything. Heís proof positive how useless the Bard class is though. Umaro just serves no purpose what so ever. Heís a hidden character so you can avoid even getting him and it effects the game in no way. Cait Sith, yeah he sucks. But the Scottish accent they gave him in Advent Children was one of the most inadvertently hilarious things I've heard in my life. Vanille is annoying as hell but she at least has a purpose. You just had to sit through forty hours of her before you realized it.


http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131027191731/finalfantasy/images/9/90/Rikku_in_concert.png
So the winner is Rikku, who vomits her way in to the game halfway through and is like dragging your little sister along for the ride. She moves like a gorilla with down syndrome. Sheís like twelve so you canít find her attractive. She can make the most somber moment retarded just by opening her mouth. Sheís a thief so that can be useful. But if I had the choice between stealing a healing potion and not listening to her I think Iíll go with the latter. The nicest thing I can say about her is that for as annoying she was in Final Fantasy X she was even worse in Final Fantasy X-2.

adamclark52
05-02-2014, 12:07 PM
Second Best Character
Nominees: Balthier (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Balthier) (Final Fantasy XII), Chocolina (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Chocolina) (Final Fantasy XIII-2), Cloud (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Cloud_Strife) (Final Fantasy VII), Fang (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Oerba_Yun_Fang) (Final Fantasy XIII), Fran (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Fran) (Final Fantasy XII)

To play second fiddle. I canít say Iíve ever had to because Iím the best at everything I do. But someone always has to come in second. For as much shit as I may have given Final Fantasy and itís characters in this thread the amount of good characters certainly outweighs the bad. I hate Chocobos but thereís something about Final Fantasy XIII-2ís Chocolina thatís justÖmmmm. Cloud has the unfortunate task of being in the game as Sephiroth. And since heís just a clone he canít be the best. Fang was the one ray of hope in Final Fantasy XIII, too bad she actually comes in to the game very late. Fran could have won, but so could a lot of other characters in Final Fantasy XII.


http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100926154749/finalfantasy/images/0/0a/Balthier-ffxii-render.png
The award goes to Balthier. He had such great swagger, great fashion sense and knew what to say and when to say it. Plus, he hangs out with Fran; who has the nicest ass in the Final Fantasy universe and is a completely cryptic psychopath. His voice actor has been in a lot of other games but whenever I hear it I automatically think BALTHIER and love that character too.

adamclark52
05-02-2014, 12:38 PM
Best Female Character
Nominees: Beatrix (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Beatrix) (Final Fantasy IX), Freya (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Freya_Crescent) (Final Fantasy IX), Fran (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Fran) (Final Fantasy XII), Terra (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Terra_Branford) (Final Fantasy VI), Serah (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Serah_Farron) (Final Fantasy XIII-2)

Some people reading this may accuse me of being a sexist pig because I always hate on characters that are female. Well itís not my fault that they design those characters with the ďlittle sisterĒ mold. So to prove that I do like some of the female characters as more than just T&A hereís this award.
Beatrix was a really strong character in a very strong cast. I donít remember too much about her but I remember her enough to know that she shouldnít be fucked with. Freya was a nice change for a female character to NOT be T&A and instead a character with a tragic past. FranÖyeah sheís hot. But donít fuck with a chick just because she has rabbit ears. Bitch will fuck your ass up. And Terra was great for being a strong lead. Too bad her story (much like all of Final Fantasy VI) kind of fell apart in the second half of the game.


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Serah wins just on account of being such a huge surprise. In Final Fantasy XIII she was just there in flashbacks. Plus she was tied to that moron Snow. So when Final Fantasy XIII-2 was announced and she was announced as the lead it was a little worrying. Whoíd know that sheíd end up being a great character that was actually fun to be around? The complete opposite of her wooden sister.


http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130927192111/finalfantasy/images/4/42/Kimahri-render-ffx.png
If I were to bang a guy from the Final Fantasy universe it would probably be Final Fantasy Xís Kimahri. I think heíd be a very gentle lover.

adamclark52
05-02-2014, 12:43 PM
Best Game
Nominees: Final Fantasy VI, Final Fantasy IV, Final Fantasy Tactics, Final Fantasy IX, Final Fantasy XII


http://www.wallsave.com/wallpapers/1024x768/airship/90713/airship-final-fantasy-xii-ff-ffxii-90713.jpg
The rankings and my top twenty-five games thread really give this one away. So Iíll do away with any pomp and ďsuspenseĒ: Final Fantasy XII is the best game in the series.

adamclark52
05-02-2014, 12:44 PM
Worst Game
Nominees: Final Fantasy II, Final Fantasy Mystic Quest, Final Fantasy X-2, Final Fantasy XIII

I guess the rankings I put at the end of every entry gives this one away too. Final Fantasy II couldíve been much better if they did something different with the leveling. And thereís still time to do that with a remake. I donít know why they havenít. Mystic Quest was set to win this category until I researched and remembered further into the series. XIIIÖoh XIII, damn you to hell.


http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20060221073150/finalfantasy/images/8/83/FFX-2logo.jpg
Final Fantasy X-2 wins just by being able to make me vomit in my mouth BEFORE THE GAME EVEN STARTED.

adamclark52
05-02-2014, 12:46 PM
The Future
Iím very worried about the future of Final Fantasy. With every game they get further and further from the mid-1990ís heyday I prefer. In gameplay, design and overall feel. Iíve seen screen shots for Final Fantasy XV and what Iíve seen I DO NOT like. The game itself will probably be beautiful and flashy but I know there will be a lot I will hate. Like terrible cringe-worthy dialogue, CARS and probably zero character customization. Like I said in one review; I canít connect with the characters anymore. Iím thirty-three years old. My dad is a great guy. Iím not confused about girls (I like them and if they threw themselves at me I caught). I donít use hair product. I wear one belt and do up all my buttons. Iím the complete opposite of every lead in every Final Fantasy for the last fifteen years.

However, some game came out recently called ďBravely DefaultĒ which was a huge success. And it was a game that apparently harkens back to the earlier days of Final Fantasy. Squaresoft developed this game and noticing its success has said that they may take Final Fantasy back that route. Or they may release more games that are ďlikeĒ earlier Final Fantasies but donít fall under the Final Fantasy banner, else while releasing Final Fantasy games that are further and further from the classics. Only time will tell. Iíll always have those old games and Iíll always love them. I hope my sons appreciate the earlier games and understand my dislike for the newer games.

The future for Final FantasyÖis very clouded.

John The Drummer
05-03-2014, 12:36 PM
Great thread!! :rocker:
Kinda spaced on the previous page because I haven't been online very much, but great stuff! That city in FF XII looks AWESOME.

When it comes down to most favorite summon I'd have to go with Ifirit because he was the first one I ever saw... and then Knights of the Round and Bahamut Zero :).... maybe Odin in there somewhere too. I remember finding Odin in VIII was a BITCH, but so worth it once you got him :rocker:

adamclark52
05-03-2014, 12:57 PM
I'll update the thread as time goes on. I'm deep into Final Fantasy VIII right now so that review will get an update soon. My dad ripped me a copy of Spirits Within so I may update that soon too. And I'm getting Lightning Returns for my birthday in a few weeks, but I probably won't redo my review until late Summer. Unless it's so AWESOME that I can't stop playing...:eyes:...yeah, right. I've also been chipping away at the original game (on Playstation and on Easy) but my thoughts on that game haven't changed at all.

And whenever Final Fantasy XV is released I'll be buying a next generation system and playing that.

adamclark52
05-03-2014, 09:49 PM
Here's some links to some well written articles on Final Fantasy:

http://www.gamesradar.com/why-every-final-fantasy-game-is-the-best-and-worst-in-the-series/ - This one inspired me to do this.

http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/finalfantasy/ff1/ff1-1.htm - I happened on this one after I was done writing. It may seem a little long but it goes more in-depth than I did. But it gives you the basic what you need to know. The guy who wrote it clearly does not like the way the series has gone but he takes it out on the series a lot harder. He does make a negative reference to Balthier at one point. That's a no-no. Sadly the article only goes as far as Final Fantasy V.

http://socksmakepeoplesexy.net/index.php?a=patff - Clicking on the link at the top of that last article lead me to this. I haven't gotten to read it yet but it pretty much looks like what I was hoping to accomplish. The whole site has a lot of good articles and write-ups. But it seems to me like everyone who writes there hasn't liked anything since 1991, and none of them like video games (which is strange since it's a site of mostly video games).

John The Drummer
05-05-2014, 10:24 AM
How's FFVIII treating you?

Will look into those articles sometime soon! Love reading about video game series' that I love :)

adamclark52
05-05-2014, 10:37 AM
How's FFVIII treating you?

Will look into those articles sometime soon! Love reading about video game series' that I love :)

I won't lie, I'm not really liking it and a I realize now why I forgot it. It's too realistic, which I can live with, and it's just not fun. Battles are just a chore and the characters are doing nothing for me. And it's pacing isn't that great. I played for five hours last night where I was in a Galbanian prison, then a missile base then the attack on Balalmb Garden. After that I fought that NORG guy, which I lost. And there was a ten minute dialogue scene before the battle that I didn't want to sit through again so I turned it off. I'm going to play through the whole thing but as of now my review won't be so kind.

John The Drummer
05-05-2014, 10:48 AM
:lol: I think that's why I enjoyed it so much, but I just rememebr some of the bosses being a total bitch! Especially that giant robot guy near the beginning when you go into Dollet (?).

Rewatch Spririts Within yet? Would love to see a new review, god I hated that movie. I never fall asleep during movies, but no joke, that movie put me to sleep! I rewatched the missed sections the next night and felt as though I will never get that lost time back :lol:

adamclark52
05-05-2014, 11:57 AM
:lol: I think that's why I enjoyed it so much, but I just rememebr some of the bosses being a total bitch! Especially that giant robot guy near the beginning when you go into Dollet (?).

Rewatch Spririts Within yet? Would love to see a new review, god I hated that movie. I never fall asleep during movies, but no joke, that movie put me to sleep! I rewatched the missed sections the next night and felt as though I will never get that lost time back :lol:

That boss was annoying. There are a lot if battles against the clock in this game and I hate those. The boss of the missile base (i think it's name was BHD23D75 or somethibg, some robot tank) was a pain in the ass too.

The dependency on Guardian Forces is a pain too. They're really the only way my characters can cause any serious damage and those long ass summons are fun to watch ONCE. Not two or three times a battle and not when you have to tap the square button the whole time.

My dad ripped me a copy of Spirits Within and as long as it works in my PlayStation I'll probably be watching it this weekend. I wasn't going to pay for that shit, you don't get to being a movie that put a studio under by having people pay for you.

John The Drummer
05-05-2014, 12:13 PM
There are a lot if battles against the clock in this game and I hate those.


THIS TIMES SIX SIX SIX. I remember that being my main turn off from the game as well. That's probably why I couldn't enjoy Dead Rising as much as I wanted to since the whole game was about time.

adamclark52
05-10-2014, 08:22 PM
I rewatched the Spirits Within tonight and I was surprised, to say the least. I redid my review and you can read it here (http://www.metalsetlists.com/showpost.php?p=567458&postcount=49).

adamclark52
05-10-2014, 09:31 PM
THIS TIMES SIX SIX SIX. I remember that being my main turn off from the game as well. That's probably why I couldn't enjoy Dead Rising as much as I wanted to since the whole game was about time.

hmmm, I've heard Lightning Returns is strongly based on time. It doesn't look good. Maybe Lightning will die, that will warrent at least a 3 out of 5.

John The Drummer
05-12-2014, 09:29 AM
hmmm, I've heard Lightning Returns is strongly based on time. It doesn't look good. Maybe Lightning will die, that will warrent at least a 3 out of 5.

:rocker::rocker::rocker:

Nice re-review of SPirits Within. The visuals certainly make up a majority of the movie, especially for its time!

adamclark52
05-16-2014, 07:06 PM
You should check out the write up on Final Fantasy X-2 on that one website (http://socksmakepeoplesexy.net/index.php?a=ffx2). I didn't think it was possible for someone to have hated that game more than me. And it's funny that I vomited in my mouth on more than one occasion just READING about it. That game clearly deserves the Worst Final Fantasy Game award it won.

Such a great site. Too bad the Final Fantasy section hasn't been updated since 2011 and the site itself seems to be dead. And the articles are a little too long.

John The Drummer
05-20-2014, 12:51 PM
Any FFVIII updates?

adamclark52
05-20-2014, 01:51 PM
Any FFVIII updates?

I played for about five hours last night and it was just not fun. Disc One was fine, Disc Two was boring and Disc Three is just starting and I just don't care. It's like a chore.

I got Lightning Returns for my birthday and part of me really wants to play it. But I want to finish VIII first.

adamclark52
06-02-2014, 01:56 AM
I finished Final Fantasy VIII tonight. Or should I say "I'm finished with Final Fantasy VIII as of tonight". I updated my review for that game (http://www.metalsetlists.com/showpost.php?p=567267&postcount=38).

My expectations and general feeling towards Final Fantasy are pretty low right now so it's a perfect time to dig in to...LIGHTNING RETURNS!

John The Drummer
06-02-2014, 10:42 AM
I wanna go back and replay FFVIII now :(. I remember really enjoying, even though I 100% knew it was a very slow game and frustrating and boring at times but I still liked it :)... but I also thought Linkin Park and Limp Bizkit and Kid Rock were amazing bands ;)

adamclark52
06-03-2014, 11:53 AM
Yeah, but then a song pops up from Final Fantasy VII and I feel so awesome. And a song comes on iTunes from Final Fantasy VIII and I feel NOTHING.

Like, listen to this and tell me you don't want to rip your nuts off and take on the world.
watch?v=bkJrwysczZ0

And this...nothing.

watch?v=WXjkWYTXqQk

VIII doesn't have that felling of "YES!", fist pump. It has a feeling of "okay", shoulder shrug.

John The Drummer
06-06-2014, 10:51 AM
:lol: Good point. Squall's theme ain't THAT bad... but certainly has a more Brady Bunch feel to it.... Cid's theme reminds me of an intro track for a folk metal show :rocker:

adamclark52
06-09-2014, 10:20 AM
So I stopped playing Final Fantasy VIII for two reasons last weekend: I really wasn't enjoying it anymore and I really wanted to start playing Lightning Returns. After playing Lightning Returns for about three and a half hours last night I'm wondering if I made a HUGE mistake. The game looks good, and the cities I was in (yes, this game has CITIES) were really, really good. But the whole game is a battle against a clock (a doomsday clock). So I'm really worried how that will affect me later on. I LIKE taking three hours to walk around, grind, explore cities, do nothing. But am I going to get to the end of the clock and have the game tell me "game over, start again"? I know you can get more time on the clock by doing side-quests but I'm wondering how tedious and frustrating this could get. Like, am I going to be ready to fight a boss and find out I only have ten minutes left until the end of the world? So am I going to have to go walk some chocobos across the street to get more time? That won't kill the momentum at all.

The game had some other issues that I'll get into more when I do my full review. But I turned it off after three and a half hours last night because I was bored and confused.

John The Drummer
06-09-2014, 01:38 PM
I hate games that have an overall time limit, even ones that give you the ability to go back/forward in time... it just takes the interest out of the game and its story and turns it more into a "OMG I NEED TO BEAT THIS AS FAST AS FUCKING POSSIBLE!!!" I like doing games at my own pace, do some exploring, just mess around, but when you put a clock in all of that goes away (I'm looking at you, Majora's Mask). Everyone loved that game, but the time just killed it for me. I am VERY guilty in Zelda games when it comes to just exploring and running around.... same goes with Dead Rising. Such a great game, great idea, but the clock :(

adamclark52
06-22-2014, 07:36 PM
Lightning Returns is one of the worst games I've ever played. That is all.

Here's my updated entry (http://www.metalsetlists.com/showpost.php?p=569294&postcount=126).

Thank god I only stopped playing VIII for a few weeks and it's still fresh in my head. I'm going back to finish that up.

FUCK LIGHTNING.

John The Drummer
06-23-2014, 09:25 AM
Lightning Returns is one of the worst games I've ever played. That is all.

Here's my updated entry (http://www.metalsetlists.com/showpost.php?p=569294&postcount=126).

Thank god I only stopped playing VIII for a few weeks and it's still fresh in my head. I'm going back to finish that up.

FUCK LIGHTNING.

Dang, that sounds worse than I imagined it being :(
As I've posted elsewhere, I HATE time limit games, levels with time limits, etc etc etc. They take out any emotion or story telling and just make you focus on making sure you get from point A to point B before its too late. Bummer :(

I turned FF7 back on, I was only grinding levels and gaining EXP outside of the Gold Saucer area (as its labeled on the map), and even that was/sounds more fun than dealing with a time limit and getting places before its too late.

adamclark52
06-23-2014, 11:31 AM
Dang, that sounds worse than I imagined it being :(
As I've posted elsewhere, I HATE time limit games, levels with time limits, etc etc etc. They take out any emotion or story telling and just make you focus on making sure you get from point A to point B before its too late. Bummer :(

I turned FF7 back on, I was only grinding levels and gaining EXP outside of the Gold Saucer area (as its labeled on the map), and even that was/sounds more fun than dealing with a time limit and getting places before its too late.

I may give it another shot in a few months. There was an "easy" option that heals Lightning to full after every battle and doesn't give you a penalty for running. I hate playing on easy but it think there was a lot more to that game than I saw. But not now.

John The Drummer
06-23-2014, 11:59 AM
Wasn't FFXIII like that? Where after every battle all of your magic and HP was filled up?

adamclark52
06-23-2014, 12:34 PM
Wasn't FFXIII like that? Where after every battle all of your magic and HP was filled up?

Yeah, and XIII-2. Some criticized it as a dumb mechanic. I thought it was good since I usually full heal characters after a battle anyway. But in Lightning Returns I didn't have a cure spell, I was only allowed six items (that includes potions and debuffing items and Phoenix downs) and the fighting is just as insane and you need to heal constantly. I had battles where I used all my potions. Like I said, the combat was bad.

And you didn't have magic points in XIII or XIII-2, which I again think was a tired mechanic anyway.

John The Drummer
06-23-2014, 03:29 PM
Its been quite a few years since I last touched XIII. I really want to go back and play it, but can't bring myself to actually do it :( . I was one of the few that enjoyed it very much, even if it felt messy and overly linear.

Do you get an actual party in XIII-3, or is it just Lightning?

adamclark52
06-23-2014, 05:35 PM
Its been quite a few years since I last touched XIII. I really want to go back and play it, but can't bring myself to actually do it :( . I was one of the few that enjoyed it very much, even if it felt messy and overly linear.

Do you get an actual party in XIII-3, or is it just Lightning?

It's just Lightning. You can switch between three outfits in battle that have four different actions each (attack, block, magic, etc). The problem I was having was the combat was so fast and my status bar wasn't filling up very fast. So there was a lot of downtime where I was vulnerable. And you had to block enemies attacks with one of your four actions. That was stupid.

Playing it made me want to play XIII. It was a great game. The cutscenes, story and characters killed it.

adamclark52
07-02-2014, 09:06 AM
Dear Diary,

I finished Final Fantasy VIII last night. The ending was pretty good but I'm glad to put that game behind me. With Lightning Returns..."on hold"...I've decided to necro another relic and play through Final Fantasy X.

The last time I played that game was in summer of 2006, so it's been quite a while. The first things that popped at me last night: I had forgotten how terrible the NPC characters look. They just stand there like wooden statues with their arms right at their sides. Then all of a sudden they'll move or flinch and it looks even more awkward. The face renders are pretty bad too, especially Yuna.

And a biggie: Tidus is a punk! I don't like him, his voice, his face, his actions. "What are ya gonna do? Cry?", "go ahead, cry", "why don't you just cry?". I remember those lines getting really old during the game. His dad was a prick.

But the combat was really good and The music is great already. And the story is lighter than VIII so it's a nice change of pace. I know the game gets better so I'm looking forward to playing it again.

John The Drummer
07-02-2014, 09:20 AM
I always thought FFX was hard as shit... but of course I sucked at those kind of games and never went in with a gameplan and just kept hacking and slashing and casting spells. I'd really like to get a PS2 again so I can replay the classics (and PS1 games as well), and this is one I really want to revisit again.

adamclark52
07-02-2014, 11:58 AM
I always thought FFX was hard as shit... but of course I sucked at those kind of games and never went in with a gameplan and just kept hacking and slashing and casting spells. I'd really like to get a PS2 again so I can replay the classics (and PS1 games as well), and this is one I really want to revisit again.

I remember some bosses being pretty hard and I remember a HUGE difficulty spike towards the end of the game, around the time you fight Seymor for the last time and Yunalesca. I can remember the last boss being very hard too. I actually only beat him once. On my second playthrough I was grinding for two hours before I fought him, then I got slain by a giant flying eyeball just before I was about to save (that sounds like something out of the Simpsons). I got so mad I turned it off and moved on. When I fired up my PS2 last night that save file was still on my memory card.

Another cool thing about Final Fantasy X is the sound enemies (or anyone for that matter) emit when they die. It's like this mournful weep, kind of like a kitten mixed with the air being let out of a ballon. I guess it's the "Sending" sound. It's very sad and adds a lot to the game.

mankvill
07-02-2014, 12:15 PM
Next time it goes on sale, I'll buy FF7 on Steam and see what the big fuss is about.

adamclark52
07-02-2014, 12:29 PM
Next time it goes on sale, I'll buy FF7 on Steam and see what the big fuss is about.

If you loved VIII and can put up with the terrible graphics VII will blow your mind. Then you'll become "one of us" and me and John will have someone else to talk to.

John The Drummer
07-09-2014, 12:55 PM
Its not just the storyline or the gameplay that make VII one of the best, but just how the leveling system/materia system/ability system/etc work with each other! Just seeing "Fire Level Up" or "New Limit Level Up" (whatever the actually wording was...) is one of the best feelings in a video game ever!

adamclark52
07-28-2014, 11:43 AM
Dear Diary,

I can't believe I'm going to type this; but I played Final Fantasy X for about seven hours last night and I'm really enjoying it. The game certainly isn't without its flaws but I had to force myself to stop at four o'clock this morning.

I think the biggie is that I'm finding it really easy to get through. I don't know if I'm over-leveled (I've spend a grand total of maybe two hours grinding) but I'm probably two thirds of the way through the game and I've died a grand total of ONCE.

mankvill
07-28-2014, 12:29 PM
Dear Diary,

I can't believe I'm going to type this; but I played Final Fantasy X for about seven hours last night and I'm really enjoying it. The game certainly isn't without its flaws but I had to force myself to stop at four o'clock this morning.

I think the biggie is that I'm finding it really easy to get through. I don't know if I'm over-leveled (I've spend a grand total of maybe two hours grinding) but I'm probably two thirds of the way through the game and I've died a grand total of ONCE.

H47ow4_Cmk0

adamclark52
07-28-2014, 01:30 PM
H47ow4_Cmk0

Like I said, "it isn't without its flaws". I was surprised how early on in the game that happened. I remember it being later on but it happened seven hours in.

adamclark52
08-18-2014, 12:18 AM
So I finished Final Fantasy X tonight. I may or may not write a new review of it. I probably will but right now all I can think about is Brock Lesnar suplexing John Cena over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over.

I'm also at a crossroads in video games. I've played a lot of Final Fantasy this year. I played through Final Fantasy XII this year, followed by Final Fantasy VIII and now Final Fantasy X. Plus I played Final Fantasy XIII: Lightning Returns for two or three weeks. So now I don't know what to move on to. Do I give Lightning Returns another crack? I don't think enough time has passed to heal that wound just yet. If I could find my PSone memory card I'd play Final Fantasy V on my PS2. I've wanted to go back to Final Fantasy XIII again too but I just did that game last March-May so I don't think I've let enough time pass yet. I've been thinking about doing Final Fantasy IX again but I don't know if I'm straight up burnt out on Final Fantasy. I think I may be. I also have Grand Theft Auto V sitting on my shelf since Christmas that I've had zero desire to play. And I've got a strong wanting to play Valkyrie Chronicles again. I was also playing Star Wars: Knights of the Old Replublic for a week or two when the Final Fantasy bug bit me back in April. Do I go back to that? I also always have a longing to have another run through the Mass Effect trilogy but I'm trying to take a year off from those games. My main thing is those are all games I own. I don't want to buy another new one. But...Castlevania: Lords of Shadows 2 did come out a few months ago. One game I'm for surely not even thinking about is Final Fantasy X-2. I really enjoyed my time with Final Fantasy X and I'd rather just pretend that Final Fantasy X-2 didn't happen.

I'm leaning towards Valkyrie Chronicles followed by another crack at Lightning Returns. But I have until next Sunday when I'll need to start something else.

I'm glad that is the more burning thing in my life these days. Life is good.

John The Drummer
08-18-2014, 01:01 PM
I also have Grand Theft Auto V sitting on my shelf since Christmas

I mow see your problem :eek:
You have to pick it up. I didn't think I would enjoy it at all, just felt burnt out on the GTA series, but this one is nearly perfect. The story, the missions, the characters, THE SCENERY! Don't let the 3 main characters make you feel uncertain, it works perfectly.

adamclark52
08-18-2014, 01:39 PM
I mow see your problem :eek:
You have to pick it up. I didn't think I would enjoy it at all, just felt burnt out on the GTA series, but this one is nearly perfect. The story, the missions, the characters, THE SCENERY! Don't let the 3 main characters make you feel uncertain, it works perfectly.

I've been very burnt out on GTA since I spent eight months playing through Vice City and San Andreas. That was almost ten years ago so I really should do that one. I think I might.

John The Drummer
08-18-2014, 01:58 PM
At least run through a few missions, see what happens. I was hooked from the beginning of that game!

adamclark52
08-19-2014, 12:57 AM
At least run through a few missions, see what happens. I was hooked from the beginning of that game!

It'll take a bit for me to get in to it. But like I said in the thread about it last year: the soundtrack is WAY better than IV so that will be what keeps me playing. Windowlicker!

adamclark52
09-01-2014, 11:37 PM
So I'm playing through Final Fantasy IX again. After playing through VIII, X and fragments of Lightning Returns...fuck, Final Fantasy IX is a good game. John, you gotta check this one out.

John The Drummer
09-02-2014, 12:50 PM
I used to always watch my friend play that game and I just couldn't connect with the characters at all, or the style. That was also over 10 years ago (or so) so I think another shot would be worth it. Plus playing it would be much different than just spectating while I play WWF Smackdown on the other screen :D

adamclark52
09-02-2014, 01:30 PM
I used to always watch my friend play that game and I just couldn't connect with the characters at all, or the style. That was also over 10 years ago (or so) so I think another shot would be worth it. Plus playing it would be much different than just spectating while I play WWF Smackdown on the other screen :D

It's very old school and very slow. Like the actual gameplay is very slow. The story unfolds very slow too. But it's awesome.

John The Drummer
09-17-2014, 03:34 PM
My friend got an SP and hes been playing through all the FF ports on it, so we've been discussing all things FF while at work :lol: . Today we were talking abuot how much of a failure Blitz Ball was. It had the chance of being SO FUN, but just fell flat on its face by making it an RTS (from what I remember) game. Chocobo Races and the Card Game >>>>>>> Blitz Ball.

adamclark52
09-17-2014, 04:33 PM
My friend got an SP and hes been playing through all the FF ports on it, so we've been discussing all things FF while at work :lol: . Today we were talking abuot how much of a failure Blitz Ball was. It had the chance of being SO FUN, but just fell flat on its face by making it an RTS (from what I remember) game. Chocobo Races and the Card Game >>>>>>> Blitz Ball.

I just spent two months with Final Fantasy X and I played a grand total of one game of Blitz: the mandatory storyline one.

I think the card game from VIII may have been the best mini-game. The card game in IX is shit too.

adamclark52
09-19-2014, 05:25 PM
watch?v=wT3dyanB3pk#t=12

I just simultainiously got very angry, barfed in my mouth, died on the inside and booked next November off.

But seriously; this looks so bad. I see some lines from one character (I don't know who he is or what his name is and I'm not watching that again to find out) who I already want to kill. The gameplay looks like a mix of Grand Theft Auto and Zelda. I like Grand Theft Auto but Link is a faggot. Either way, it ain't Final Fantasy. The music is shit. I guess the graphics look awesome enough. But I've played through enough games to realize that graphics don't mean shit if you hate every second of what you're doing.

God, that game is going to break my fucking heart.

John The Drummer
09-19-2014, 07:35 PM
I feel very confused with this video..... why is there a sports car in a Final Fantasy game??? Why is it... just... I don't even...

I wish that they could take all of their high class fancy technology they have now and make a FF that doesn't take place in the future.... sure it looks cool, but think how cool it could look if they did all of that IN A MEDIEVAL KIND OF SETTING!!!!! (like the older games)

adamclark52
09-19-2014, 10:09 PM
I don't know man, I don't know what the fuck they are doing. They're killing my franchise. I guess if they can bring Chewbacca back for the new Star Wars they can vomit diaherea all over this too. Like, that wasn't just bad. That was fucking godawful, shit, balls, garbage terrible.

I mean, Final Fantasy VIII did have cars. And it didn't turn out that bad. Maybe this is just VIII a few generations later? But some of the dialogue was just killing me too. I guess it was the "prince" but he sounded like such a...bitchy Final Fantasy prince.

I think it's a prime example of what I touched on with Final Fantasy X and how voice acting has really been bad for the franchise. But after watching that I won't be running out and buying a next generation console the day Final Fantasy XV comes out. Unless I'm totally wrong and the game is awesome.

But I had a bad feeling when I saw this screenshot a few months ago and that feeling just got a whole lot worse.

https://d1vr6n66ssr06c.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/final_fantasy_xv_header.jpg

I'm dying on the inside. I'm really upset over this. But I'll be over it tomorrow. So for tonight fuck this shit. I hope this game falls flat on it's face, get terrible reviews and puts the developers out of business.

LogicBomb
09-20-2014, 12:06 AM
I didn't have quite as negative a reaction, but I am definitely wary. I really really don't like the J-pop boy band look they have going on, plus that coupled with their stupid trying too hard to sound cool names (Noctis Lucis Caelum?), how am I supposed to spend a whole game with these people?

I don't mind the car so much either, but more why are they dressed fairly modern and they seem to be fighting some sort of knights on the side of the road? It seems like they wanted to keep the aesthetics of Versus XIII ("a fantasy based on reality") but now they're forced to mesh it with typical mainline FF stuff.

Whatever. I'm reserving judgement. Better this than another fanfiction quality FF7 sequel.

adamclark52
09-20-2014, 05:14 AM
I didn't have quite as negative a reaction, but I am definitely wary. I really really don't like the J-pop boy band look they have going on, plus that coupled with their stupid trying too hard to sound cool names (Noctis Lucis Caelum?), how am I supposed to spend a whole game with these people?

I don't mind the car so much either, but more why are they dressed fairly modern and they seem to be fighting some sort of knights on the side of the road? It seems like they wanted to keep the aesthetics of Versus XIII ("a fantasy based on reality") but now they're forced to mesh it with typical mainline FF stuff.

Whatever. I'm reserving judgement. Better this than another fanfiction quality FF7 sequel.

I just can't relate to it. Welcome to the thread too LogicBomb. It's been me and John forever geeking out by ourselves.

LogicBomb
09-21-2014, 11:42 PM
Ha, yeah I see that.

I've been a big FF fan since playing II (IV) on the SNES. I've rather liked all the mainline ones, except for V, which was kinda boring, and IX (I know lots of people like IX, but I never really got into it, even after beating it). I haven't played XIII, or the MMO ones. And the spin offs are hit or miss, mostly miss. Tactics is still godlike, X-2 is okay. Didn't really like Dirge of Cerberus or Crisis Core, especially with their fanfiction-esque stories.

Some new info on XV via Kotaku (http://kotaku.com/the-man-who-saved-final-fantasy-xv-1637142585)


car will be treated like an airship in previous games
not totally open world, semi open
55% completed
seamless and "natural, flowing" combat


I haven't played Type-0, but I'm glad to have some new blood working on FF, and so far he seems to be saying mostly right things. We'll see if it pans out.

mankvill
09-21-2014, 11:58 PM
I haven't played it at all, but the new FFXV trailer/demo made it seem more like Monster Hunter or Xenogears.

LogicBomb
09-22-2014, 12:13 AM
It actually reminded me alot of that Xenoblade 2 trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uGVRvpPr8k).

Since I was already looking, found another link with some more info at Gematsu (http://gematsu.com/2014/09/final-fantasy-xv-director-talks-development-open-world-combat-demo) on combat; apparently you'll only be able to control Noctis? Which sucks if true. And it's "like an action game," but you have to hold down buttons to attack, instead of pressing them for each attack. Eh. I know turn based is not coming back to mainstream RPGs, but if it has to be that way they could at least make it into an awesome action game like Dragon's Dogma.

adamclark52
09-22-2014, 12:27 AM
It's only fifty-five percent done? I know the more time put in may make for a better game...but that looks like shit. In March it will have been FIVE YEARS since XIII came out. The whole Mass Effect series came out over the course of five years and that shit was godly. They are really dropping the ball on this one. Style over substance!

I hope they port those Bravely Default games onto PS3.

John The Drummer
09-22-2014, 09:42 AM
I really hate how Modern/Futuristic it looks. Like.... 13 was just straight up future, 12 was a mix of future and old (steampunk?), but this just looks like it takes place "in the year 20XX" :(

I know FF8 had cars and was a bit modern, too, but it still felt like a fantasy world. This just looks like .... well... GTA mixed with FF!

adamclark52
09-22-2014, 09:58 AM
I really hate how Modern/Futuristic it looks. Like.... 13 was just straight up future, 12 was a mix of future and old (steampunk?), but this just looks like it takes place "in the year 20XX" :(

I know FF8 had cars and was a bit modern, too, but it still felt like a fantasy world. This just looks like .... well... GTA mixed with FF!

I'd say XIII was very similar to VIII; it was futuristic but a different future. It was like Zanarkand or one of those other ancient civilizations that are all mysterious in other games. There really wasn't too much steampunk in XII, it was straight-up old-school. That's why it was the best Final Fantasy EV-AH!

But yeah, this looks like 2014 apocalyptic America...with a behemoth and the gay turned up to eleven.

I'm about twenty-five hours into IX. It was dragging a bit last night (I did the parts were Kuja attacks Alexandria, then Kujas Desert Palace and Oeilvert) but it's still really good. The character designs are getting a bit tiresome though. A lot of work was put in to Dagger's ass that would've been better spent elsewhere.

I'm really interested if anyone who ever reads this has ever actually played XI or XIV and can tell me if there's a decent, maybe around thirty or forty hour single player campaign? One that won't require anything outside of the initial purchase price.

LogicBomb
10-02-2014, 11:34 PM
Some more info on combat, and a video:

http://gematsu.com/2014/10/final-fantasy-xv-director-addresses-fan-concerns-new-gameplay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihlaR7ubfOg

Seems like they're adamant on simplifying the combat, the word "casual" is mentioned a couple of times. I really wish they would just make it an action game, but it seems like they're dedicated to auto-attack and having everything look cool. Which basically seems to be the reason you can only play as Noctis, because it would be too much work to play as any character and have them do super flashy stuff too. Reminds me alot of the "press A for awesome" stuff from Dragon Age 2, devs too focused on stuff looking cool rather than good gameplay.

adamclark52
10-09-2014, 11:17 AM
Man, I'm almost done Final Fantasy IX and while the story seemed to jump a bit towards the end of disk three what a fucking game!

watch?v=3xqtQwC-hwM

adamclark52
10-11-2014, 09:29 PM
I finished Final Fantasy IX tonight. It's still one of the best in the series but goddamn it was EASY. I don't think I was over-leveled because I spent ZERO time grinding but I didn't even break a sweat during the final boss(es).

I'm gonna try to do some new write-ups on Final Fantasies IX and X. And I got a PSone memory card for ninety-seven cents off eBay; so up next: Final Fantasy V!

[EDIT] I was going through my old video game controller case today (trying to find a charger for my sons tablet) and I found my old back-up PSone Memory Card. It's probably been sitting in that case for close to fifteen years...derp. I guess I didn't have to wait so long to play FFV.

adamclark52
10-12-2014, 05:05 PM
I rewrote my reviews for Final Fantasies IX and X.

Final Fantasy IX (http://www.metalsetlists.com/showpost.php?p=567368&postcount=41)

Final Fantasy X (http://www.metalsetlists.com/showpost.php?p=567570&postcount=53)

John The Drummer
11-07-2014, 10:27 AM
I downloaded a demo on my 3DS of a Final Fantasy sort of music rhythm styled game and it is SO FUCKINGFUN! Really simple, but addicting. I really want to buy the actual game now (title escapes me at the moment)

Check it out if you get a chance. It'd be a good excuse to get the kid/kids a 3DS for Christmas ;)

adamclark52
11-07-2014, 10:46 AM
I've been replaying through V the last few weeks. It's the first time I've played it in close to fifteen years. Ever heard the phrase, "absence makes a heart grow fonder"? That'll be the theme of my review for that one.

adamclark52
11-09-2014, 10:39 PM
I couldn't go any further in Final Fantasy V. (http://www.metalsetlists.com/showpost.php?p=566814&postcount=19) And I think I may be done with Final Fantasy as a whole for a while now. I've been playing nothing but since January. Time to move on.

I'm not going to declare this thread dead but I'll say it's "one ice" for now unless something comes up.

Here's how I ranked all the Final Fantasies in a thread I started a few years ago:
1. Final Fantasy XII
2. Final Fantasy IV
3. Final Fantasy VI
4. Final Fantasy Tactics
5. Final Fantasy IX
6. Final Fantasy VII
7. Final Fantasy
8. Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings
9. Final Fantasy XIII-2
10. Final Fantasy V
11. Final Fantasy X
12. Final Fantasy XIII
13. Final Fantasy VIII
14. Final Fantasy Legend II
15. Final Fantasy Mysic Quest
16. Final Fantasy III
17. Final Fantasy II
18. Final Fantasy X-2

And here's how I rank them today after doing all this research and gameplay:
1. Final Fantasy XII
2. Final Fantasy VI
3. Final Fantasy IV
4. Final Fantasy IX
5. Final Fantasy Tactics
6. Final Fantasy VII
7. Final Fantasy X
8. Final Fantasy VIII
9. Final Fantasy
10. Final Fantasy XIII-2
11. Final Fantasy XIII
12. Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings
13. Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII
14. Final Fantasy Legend II
15. Final Fantasy V
16. Final Fantasy Mysic Quest
17. Final Fantasy III
18. Final Fantasy II
19. Final Fantasy X-2

VIII's taken the biggest jump. I had a really good time with that one and look at it a lot more fondly than before. But IX took the more important jump, taking fourth place. V took the biggest dive. XII: Revenant Wings went down quite a bit too but that wasn't because of it taking a dive, it was because a lot of games overtook it.